Generic List of providers who accept the donation after the session
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wow....I think I just fell in love. What a reasonable and inciteful reply...showing empathy and understanding....with a touch of steel as in "the fact that i could easily beat you up". Now that...was friggin hilarious. Thank you for my pre meeting giggle...it was delightful!
cheers,
eddie
Really. She almost convinced me, for a few moments, to stop posting in this thread.
If only all SP's were like that, as hot in their talk {sweetmouth is the Thai girl term}
as they are in their pics. And it can only get better if she has a French accent, as
her writing style seems to indicate. Now you know what i was referring to earlier
by the TG hypnosis & "magic", which she seems to have down to a form of art.
Wow, a French Canadian AJ with TG style. Quite the package! I'm guessing at
least 500/hr. As for service, sorry, i'm a bit sceptical with ladies that look that way,
although Montreal SP's are very well spoken of here, so maybe she's exceptional ;
Why are you so beautiful, VJ?
Would i give you that list of individual's names? No, obviously not, as you are a
confessed bad person.
Would others give me their list? That depends. Does such a list even exist? I doubt
it. And if it does exist, do they have permission from the SP's on it to share it?
Are the listed gals already publicly advertising this payment method?
The closest i've seen to lists of individual SP's who offer postpayment is right
here in this thread, with {a} those who do it regularly with regulars, {b} those
who allow CC payment which can be charged back, {c} those who leave the donation
on the table till the guy leaves. IMO, the latter two are virtually the same as
accepting postpayment.
Believe me your writing style brings out that accent that i love.
Yes, the greatest country in the world just got better.
I wouldn't dream of arguing with 41 pages of great service accounts.
I'm assuming that is not just one person who is very longwinded.
By the name of Brad Pitt, perhaps? ;
Just my experience that it is one in a million where you find the perfect girl,
or as near as one can expect in this world. Generally speaking some guys
say that a stunner with a beautiful personality does not go with excellent service.
I can be the same way, when in the mood.
Yes, very strong indeed! And spelling the words exactly as
many French Canadians would say them.
Sorry, i could not give it up, because i needed to talk with you again ;Lenny did you give up about this tread yet or not..
If you do i will give you a cow lick
This is something irresistable that you have to do once in your life
But i am very curious as to what you are speaking of, as licks almost
anywhere are one of my things, especially from AJ's sister!
Thank you for your comment, Miss Bijou. I understand what you're saying
and am wondering if there is a possibility for compromise here? In
particular regarding your thoughts re the client being anonymous via
cell phone use, etc, i can see where some might be willing to give
SP's collaterol, so to speak, so that they are not "a stranger" to them.
For example, allowing her to see, record or copy picture ID info, such
as drivers license, passports, BCID cards. Or other ID such as DOB, CC,
Care Card, etc. The list of possibilities could be quite long. I, for
example, would have no problem showing my STD test results papers,
which contain much more personal info than just the test results, and
have both offered to do and done this in the past.
Re reviews, i agree that they are a great way to find a good SP, and
basicly remove my concerns about prepayment with people such as yourself.
It is with unknowns that i would wish to pay after the fact because
they are not proven to be reliable. For example a pooner sees an ad on CL
or a comment on PERB by a lady that he just has to see, because she seems
like exactly the type that he is looking for. But she has no reviews, so
what's a guy to do? I'm sure this happens often, and sometimes the end
result is something akin to a "cash and dash". Is there another way he
can see her without risking that except by explaining what i just typed
and requesting to give the donation after the session?
Finally, i'd like to say that to my feeling, the bottom line here is
not coercing her to do anything she isn't already willing to do, as i
would only suggest this to her once, and politely, but it is a matter
of being protected from fly by nighters, hardcore scammers, & the like.
I think we all realize that this kind of thing happens regularly, and
they are out there.
That mouth...so perfect i've never seen before. Surely to die for.Lenny
have quit yet?
Ah allez mon grand!C'est le temps d'arrêter d'argumenter
We can`t move together...i have way too big mouth for you..
But don't worry, contrary to what may appear to be, i almost never
speak, only listen. And also have ipod.
Lenny,
Of course you are right... there are numerous ladies out there that take payment after the session. I have received this courtesy with many ladies myself and, surprise, surprise, its also a very rare occasion where the service wasn't anything less than stellar...most of the time so stellar that I would never even dream of not paying, never mind not tip generously (so good you often can't fathom why anyone would risk not being able to come back to that type of service provider again by stiffing her?)
However, don't you dare ask a question on this board that might run contrary to the business practices and services of many of the ladies that advertise on here, otherwise you risk facing the wrath and ridicule of them and their white knights. I am finding that as time goes on this board has become less and less useful to the pooner and has become more of a tool to push the agenda of the sp's advertising on here.
Read through this thread and look up other threads that ask a question in a similar vein - its the same group of sp's and same group of lapdogs slagging you as who slags anyone else who even dares make a query that might suggest other competitors in this industry might and do step up their service compared to the old guard here on this board.
Instead of just letting a perfectly reasonable question stand and allowing people to just answer it, instead you're getting vilified as if you're suggesting that you go around having bbfs with every women you see.
Hey...I can see that you're not suggesting that any SP has to even contemplate changing the way they do business - but you can tell that all the SP's jumping on you here see you as being a threat to them just by making the suggestion that their service level may not be as high as some others out there. These people just can't reconcile the idea that all SP's are allowed to run their business exactly as they please - but that their potential clientelle also does not have to be forced to continue to give them their patronage either.
How else can you explain why they all feel a need to shut a guy down for asking a simple question about what other providers offer?
As if taking payment after the session is going to be dangerous to the SP?!?!?! What a joke. Why would it be any more dangerous for an SP to accept payment after the session than it would be for a restaurant owner to accept payment after a meal or for a lawyer to bill after providing their services? Answer: it isn't. Its just a risk that many a business operator takes in order to provide a level of comfort and service for their client in the execution of their business (lest we forget that it is the experience of the client which is most important in this transaction)
Of course you are right... there are numerous ladies out there that take payment after the session. I have received this courtesy with many ladies myself and, surprise, surprise, its also a very rare occasion where the service wasn't anything less than stellar...most of the time so stellar that I would never even dream of not paying, never mind not tip generously (so good you often can't fathom why anyone would risk not being able to come back to that type of service provider again by stiffing her?)
However, don't you dare ask a question on this board that might run contrary to the business practices and services of many of the ladies that advertise on here, otherwise you risk facing the wrath and ridicule of them and their white knights. I am finding that as time goes on this board has become less and less useful to the pooner and has become more of a tool to push the agenda of the sp's advertising on here.
Read through this thread and look up other threads that ask a question in a similar vein - its the same group of sp's and same group of lapdogs slagging you as who slags anyone else who even dares make a query that might suggest other competitors in this industry might and do step up their service compared to the old guard here on this board.
Instead of just letting a perfectly reasonable question stand and allowing people to just answer it, instead you're getting vilified as if you're suggesting that you go around having bbfs with every women you see.
Hey...I can see that you're not suggesting that any SP has to even contemplate changing the way they do business - but you can tell that all the SP's jumping on you here see you as being a threat to them just by making the suggestion that their service level may not be as high as some others out there. These people just can't reconcile the idea that all SP's are allowed to run their business exactly as they please - but that their potential clientelle also does not have to be forced to continue to give them their patronage either.
How else can you explain why they all feel a need to shut a guy down for asking a simple question about what other providers offer?
As if taking payment after the session is going to be dangerous to the SP?!?!?! What a joke. Why would it be any more dangerous for an SP to accept payment after the session than it would be for a restaurant owner to accept payment after a meal or for a lawyer to bill after providing their services? Answer: it isn't. Its just a risk that many a business operator takes in order to provide a level of comfort and service for their client in the execution of their business (lest we forget that it is the experience of the client which is most important in this transaction)
Angie, then don't do it.
That doesn't stop other SP's from doing this practice.
Allow Lenny to ask the question instead of all you jerks hijacking his thread to push your agenda.
That doesn't stop other SP's from doing this practice.
Allow Lenny to ask the question instead of all you jerks hijacking his thread to push your agenda.
Yes
Hmmm, how does that old saying go....a fool and his friends are seldom parted?
Oh please...you're the biggest "fool" lapdog in this place.Hmmm, how does that old saying go....a fool and his friends are seldom parted?
That is the exact reason why I opposed the list. Some providers may very well wait until the client leaves to count the donation, but if a whole wack of people find that out then I think there is a significant risk of attracting rip-off artists. And, I am sure it only takes one or two times of being ripped off before the escort would no longer wait to count/ask for the money.
I think leaving the room with the donation is both a safe and a classy way to take care of business
As has been said, do what you "think" you need to do.That is the exact reason why I opposed the list. Some providers may very well wait until the client leaves to count the donation, but if a whole wack of people find that out then I think there is a significant risk of attracting rip-off artists. And, I am sure it only takes one or two times of being ripped off before the escort would no longer wait to count/ask for the money.
I think leaving the room with the donation is both a safe and a classy way to take care of business
But the "risk" you suggest is not necessarily higher than what it is for many other businesses. I'd be pretty sure that restaurants get ripped off far more by these rip-off artists than an sp would.
Don't do it if you don't want to. There are, however, sp's out there that recognize that there are clients out there that appreciate that gesture and do make this practice.
Feel free to ignore it when there are guys in this marketplace that tell you they like this gesture. That's fine. Do what you have to.
This gesture isn't about safety as some have suggested. It's about trust and about who has "control" until the transaction is completed. If you don't want to give up control, then don't. But there is a demand out there for ladies who have enough faith in their performance and service that they will give up that control to add to the experience.
Glad you mentioned this. But reality is that the restaurant is not out the $, the waiter/waitress is. If someone dines and dashes, traditionally they are the ones who have to pay the tab.
So, thanks for helping point out that pay before play is the smart thing to do.
btw, when is the last time you went thru a drive thru? You order, next window you pay, then and only then, you coast to the final window and pick up the order. Did not used to be that way, did it? Fact is, the bad apples are the ones who make the rules for everyone, and the fact that almost every sp who is posting here says the same thing means that the guys should just STFU, because continuing to tell them that they are wrong, imo, is only supporting their claims. Calling them wrong, threatening to boycott anyone that makes clients pay first, threatening to post the names of sps who accept payment after the fact, well all of that seems pretty intimidating and blackmailish to me.
Good for you.
And all of this, and still not one of you will admit that when you pay after the appt, you deduct whatever amounts you feel she does not deserve, in spite of the agreement of rates before arrival. I find this particularly suspicious, because none of you will admit it. You claim she does a better performance under the threat of not being paid at the end, or not being paid in full, yet you cannot prove this to anyone. Because, you will not admit to shortchanging her at the end (I exclude Krustee, because he admitted it elsewhere, that he shows up without the full agreed upon amount). So the question is, AGAIN, how many others will admit what he did? That you deliberately show up short of the correct amount AND that, subject to your own opinions and whim (after the fact) you do not pay the agreed rate for her time?
Are you seriously suggesting that an sp, one who works alone and meeting some dude for the very first time, should give up all of her control? Based on what? Your say so?
If some sps are too dimwitted to learn from the experiences of others, or too willing to knuckle under the thumb of a few loudmouthed review board members, then you can benefit from their ignorance. But it has nothing to do with being classier, or a better judge of character than the ones who do ask for payment up front. It has everything to do with being a doormat, and that is not an entirely attractive trait in an sp, for most guys.
For lenny, I assume it is, since he is the one not giving any breaks in those 4 hour marathon bbbjs, right?
Talk about needing to be in "control", lol.
Then don't do it. Lenny wasn't asking you to. Lenny did ask for pooners to contribute to a list of providers that do.
But clearly there is a group of members, with yourself included in this group, who continually hijack threads if there is even a hint of something that competes favorably to how this group runs their business.
And trust me - there are providers that are likely very much better than you who do collect after the service and aren't at all concerned about whether they will collect it, or that the odd asshole might take off without paying. Its called the risk of doing business. You can disbelieve it if you want, but quit infecting this thread with your opinions which don't contribute to the original thread-starter's topic.
And yet there are tens of millions of servers out there that come to work and accept this risk every day. Go figure.
All I said was that I oppose an open list of providers who accept payment after, for the reasons I had specified ...
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