If Ford is wrong, and Kavanaugh is innocent but that still causes him to lose his seat....there's probably going to be one huge libel suit coming her way.
Brett Kavanaugh Circus
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Actually Ford loses either way. She lost just by playing. She already said, second only to the (alleged) assault itself, this has been the most traumatic experience of her life. The woman is getting death threats. Even if somehow he was legitimately determined to be guilty, that's not going away.
The point about death threats is that Big_Guy_Rye suggested she had nothing to lose, when in fact she lost just by coming forward. She knew what would happen and did it anyway. (Kinda like taking an airplane for her maybe?) Kavanaugh is getting death threats too and that's equally despicable but he didn't willingly invite it upon himself. She did. So that hardly qualifies as doing it because she had nothing to lose. She was bloody terrified of coming forward.
Anyway, yes she's damaged. Yes the Democrats are using her. Somebody damaged her though (well before this got political). With some luck maybe the FBI will figure out how. It might've been Kavanaugh.
As to Avenatti, it's odd they haven't contacted his client. In terms of low hanging fruit to help restore faith in Kavanaugh, you think he'd be a good choice. If anyone is bluffing, it's Avenatti.
If you have a chance, you have to watch the opening sketch for the this season's first episode of Saturday Night Live that aired yesterday evening. Absolutely hilarious! It was a comedic look at the questioning of Kavanaugh this week as shown world wide on tv. Kavanaugh was portrayed brilliantly by Matt Damon.
I would have put a link to it here but unable to find one yet. Probably have to wait a few days before it can legally be put on YouTube.
UPDATE: This CBC link does have a couple of portions of last night's SNL sketch:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/snl-brett-kavanaugh-spoof-matt-damon-1.4844541
And Trump tweeted after the show that SNL was now an ad for the Democrats. That should help SNL rating lol.
JD
I would have put a link to it here but unable to find one yet. Probably have to wait a few days before it can legally be put on YouTube.
UPDATE: This CBC link does have a couple of portions of last night's SNL sketch:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/entertainment/snl-brett-kavanaugh-spoof-matt-damon-1.4844541
And Trump tweeted after the show that SNL was now an ad for the Democrats. That should help SNL rating lol.
JD
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What does Ford have to gain by lying????
What does Kavanaugh have to gain by lying???
I watched Kavanaugh testimony again last night and it was even more pathetic the second time. I’m not judging who’s telling the truth here. But the optics were terrible.
I went to Yale
I got good grades
I captained the basketball team
I lifted weights
I drank beer
I deserve this
I partied
All the while yelling and crying and making faces and being belligerent. Just bloody aweful and pathetic and juvenile and entitled.
Compared to Gorsuch, he’s an empty shell.
I’m sick of the guy.
What does Kavanaugh have to gain by lying???
I watched Kavanaugh testimony again last night and it was even more pathetic the second time. I’m not judging who’s telling the truth here. But the optics were terrible.
I went to Yale
I got good grades
I captained the basketball team
I lifted weights
I drank beer
I deserve this
I partied
All the while yelling and crying and making faces and being belligerent. Just bloody aweful and pathetic and juvenile and entitled.
Compared to Gorsuch, he’s an empty shell.
I’m sick of the guy.
Called it. They've tied the FBI's hands. And Trump weasels as usual by saying the White House won't limit the FBI, which is technically true because it's actually the Senate that set the limitations of who they can talk to. Odds of Flake calling them out on only giving his request lip service and not honouring the spirit of the request are next to nil.
And the questions that were asked of him were "Did you drink on a weekday night?".
Really. You think his answers were pathetic and not the questions?
There wasn't a single question asked of the situation that night. They just wanted to make him look like a drunk moron.
Some great and fair hearing.
The biases are coming from the players in this story. I'm not parroting social media, I'm basing this comment on the articles quoting FBI sources.
Everyone with a position of power involved in this has an agenda: The Democrats have an agenda, the Republicans have an agenda. They're both frothing at the mouth. No one in authority is actually interested in exploring the truth. They're too busy trying to lock in the outcome they want. The FBI, the only player who is non-partisan, is not allowed to do what they should do. According to their own sources.
It's a bloody farce.
BYW just for reference, here's Fox News quoting a White House spokesman:
which is in part what I said above, re: Trump passing the buck.
Blasey Ford is an emotional wreck, but we don't know the reason for that, and questioning didn't even try to find out her mental state.
She will get an inevitable book deal, as well as remuneration by the DNC and probably a speakng tour.
At last count there are all these gofundme pages that have raised almost $1 million for her so far.
https://ca.gofundme.com/mvc.php?route=homepage_norma/search&term=Blasey Ford
And that's why I checked in on Fox News, the source most likely to be biased for Trump and against the Democrats. And still it's there.
Re: FBI one would hope the further one gets away from it, the less partisan it becomes. I would like to see Ford take up the Maryland PD on the offer to investigate her complaint. They can't file charges if they found something, due to statute of limitations, but they still appear to be ready to treat it as a criminal investigation, which is a more persuasive "no stone unturned" option. They aren't going to be subject to arbitrary politically motivated deadlines or constraints.
Not clear what your point is there. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it sounds like you're implying either (a) she's got motivation for lying or (b) will be compensated for reinflicting a measure of her life long trauma?
To (a) perhaps, but that's a wash then because obviously Kavanaugh has motivation to lie too while her upside is more of a gamble than his. To (b) perhaps some people would consider that worth it. Others would not wish to be paraded about as a specimen even for that measure of compensation. As a psych prof, she doesn't appear to be the grifter sort; she may well already have published books.
You call bias but I'm seeing a lot of preconceptions in your assertions.
My assertions are based on two things: their behaviour in the hearing and the prospect that senators on both sides are more intersted in their desired conclusion than digging. My first and foremost assertion is that unencumbered digging is warranted, not only of the allegations but of the fitness of Kavanaugh's character.
I have no delusions that a conservative judge should never be appointed to the Supreme Court, but based on what is already objectively known, one suspects they could do better than Kavanaugh. But if they want to play this game and stick it through, they best be willing to let everything out.
Another believable testimony:
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics...yale-classmate-sloppy-drunk-bts-cuomo-vpx.cnn
I predict again that Kavanaugh is a goner.
JD
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics...yale-classmate-sloppy-drunk-bts-cuomo-vpx.cnn
I predict again that Kavanaugh is a goner.
JD
My prediction is that the FBI won't investigate Ford because she was careful enough not to say anything that can be investigated. So they will go after Kavanaugh's statements and if he misrepresented anything at the end of the week they will call him a liar and goodbye Kavanaugh's judgeship and hello to Ford's book tour.
Kavanaugh is a bad choice because the SCOTUS needs more diversity.
K is catholic. Four other judges are Catholic, plus one lapsed Catholic. Six catholics is too many.
Currently all the judges are from Yale, Harvard or one from Columbia. More schools need to be in the mix.
K is another frat boy. There are too many already in Congress, the judiciary and the cabinet.
The Supreme Court needs to better reflect the community it serves.
Appointing another ivy league cookie cutter makes it worse.
K is catholic. Four other judges are Catholic, plus one lapsed Catholic. Six catholics is too many.
Currently all the judges are from Yale, Harvard or one from Columbia. More schools need to be in the mix.
K is another frat boy. There are too many already in Congress, the judiciary and the cabinet.
The Supreme Court needs to better reflect the community it serves.
Appointing another ivy league cookie cutter makes it worse.
There were still some odd things in her testimony. Like whether her lie detector test was taken the day of, or day after her grandmother's funeral. Who could possibly NOT remember those dates from a couple of weeks ago. Just how faulty is her memory? The fact it was a day she was weeping throughout also makes the test competely useless. No ethical tester would test someone during such an emotional time.
She also refused to name the person who, I believe took her to the party. There were a number of times her lawyers intervened to prevent her from answering.
Also, why was Kavanaugh's behaviour during high school and college made such an issue, when her almost identical behaviour of binge drinking, blacking out and constant partying been scrubbed from the internet?...ALMOST. See the following...http://tennesseestar.com/2018/09/22...fords-hidden-80s-era-high-school-social-life/
Fear not: questions about his drinking habits and related things he may have misled on during the hearing are reportedly "out of scope".
Although one would think that if he misrepresented shouldn't that be cause to not get the job?
