USA Political Thread 2023

[se7landrover97]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/go...A16Jg89?cvid=2580e982c8444aeeb4a536a4465f0a3b

Golf is an honestly game. If he can cheat in golf, he can cheating on anything. It only speaks of what kind of a person he really is. 🙄

 

[westwoody]

I don't even believe he understands what is medicare or social security to be honest. Someone should ask him what what are the pros and cons of Medicare and Social Security.

He understands Medicare in the biggest way.
He has been promising to release his plan to save Medicare any day now since 2015.
He is simultaneously guaranteeing that it will be untouched while saying it will have to be reduced.
Schroedinger's Medicare.

 

[rlock]

US politics must still be viewed through a lens of dual citizens & blackmailed pedophiles from Epstein's island occupying prominent and senior levels of US government without the best interests of the United States nor its allies.

Most recently egregious, ousting of legally elected Ukrainian President Yanukovych in 2014 financed by Nuland under Obama, and non-governmental organizations funded by billionaire George Soros, for crass, smutty coke-snorting Zelenski shelling and killing 16,000 civilians in Donbas, obscured by media complacency for Putin's Special Military Operation, essentially a rescue operation.

Others recently: oustings in Libya, Balkins, and Afghanistan leaving civilians desperate that Canada participated. Slaughters in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Gaza & West Bank. Migrations. Perpetual war for financial profit. The military industrial complex.

In history: the French Revolution, the takeovers of Bank of England and Federal Reserve Bank, the Balfour Declaration, Bolshevik Revolution and Holodomor killing millions of farmers & intellectuals. Gulags killing 66 million according to Russian author Alexandr Solzhenitsyn.

I can dig the 2nd and 3rd points as realistic arguments, but the 1st and 4th ? Sounds like bollocks. It "msut" be viewed? No. It should be viewed like the two big parties down there are (as you say in part 3) waging some out of control culture war in public, while the elite class make huge profits by funding / controlling both sides.

 

[rlock]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/go...A16Jg89?cvid=2580e982c8444aeeb4a536a4465f0a3b

Golf is an honestly game. If he can cheat in golf, he can cheating on anything. It only speaks of what kind of a person he really is. 🙄

Things Trump cheats at:
- marriages
- business
- taxes
- news
- politics (generally)

- primaries​

- supreme court picks​

- trade agreements​

- foreign policy / alliances​

- dealing with COVID​

- elections (one win & one loss despite this)​

- giving back secret documents when told to

Who is even surprised? It's like a bank robber parking their getaway car at an expired meter.

But golf? Oh no, not golf ! Shame, shame !

Golf. The "sport" where you ride around in carts because walking is too strenuous, and have servants around to carry your clubs.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

So from the looks of things, this US thing about classified documents probably goes back eons amongst past presidents, vice presidents, senators etc.
I guess the difference is how forthcoming each individual is when some search turns up this and that.

 

[rlock]

So from the looks of things, this US thing about classified documents probably goes back eons amongst past presidents, vice presidents, senators etc.
I guess the difference is how forthcoming each individual is when some search turns up this and that.

Probably an unintended side effect of the "ghost-written presidential memoirs" industry.

 

[westwoody]

The current level of political discourse in America…and she is on the committee “investigating” covid.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

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The current level of political discourse in America…and she is on the committee “investigating” covid.

J F C
That lowest of the low in the lowest common denominator in the US is really, well, low.

 

[carvesg]

The current level of political discourse in America…and she is on the committee “investigating” covid.

She can't differentiate gas from particles, bacterias or viruses . Makes total sense if you are a member of the GOP these days . Insanity is reaching new levels each day in that new congress

 

[rlock]

I saw part of a documentary called "the Swamp", basically about DC insider/Congressional life, and one fucked up thing was: all those seats on Congressional committees are given out & kept by members who have to constantly "kick upstairs" money to their respective parties - basically they have to pay their party for the privilege of being on one or keeping it.

Therefore, those seats are only filled by those who can raise a lot of money, always from lobbyists - who just happen to have interests in the field those committees cover and want things to go their way. Or put another way, influence peddling is built right in to their system. Maybe these members and their superiors are not keeping that money - the party is - but their ability to even have a meaningful career depends on selling out their principles to whoever throws the most donations at them.

BOTH big parties down there practice this and enforce it upon their members; the US courts have also ruled this direct injection of "dark money" into the system of governing is not illegal & cannot be prohibited.

Just gonna put that out there.

 

[Mrmotorscooter]

 

[Cock Throppled]

Trump is a sideshow some obssessed people can't get past, even though Joe Biden is president, and none of the Trump-fixated ever mention.

Hunter Biden is also just a sideshow. When Obama made Joe Biden VP, the point-man for US policy regarding such authoritarian, anti-American regimes as China and Russia, and such notoriously corrupt regimes as Ukraine, why did agents of those regimes suddenly believe it was in their interest to pay millions of dollars to the Biden family?

What did the Chinese and Ukranians believe they were buying? The material question is whether American policy toward hostile regimes is being influenced by the millions of dollars agents of those regimes paid the Bidens.

When CEFC, an elaborate Chinese intelligence operation posing as an international business conglomerate, paid the Bidens $6 million in a year’s time, and when it was planned that 10% of an even more lucrative CEFC deal would be held by Hunter for “the big guy,” what was Beijing expecting to get out of its investment?

 

[jrt]

I see a Chinese air balloon has been hovering over the USA and spying on the country. The CCP are taunting the Biden administration and yet no response to remove the spy balloon from American soil. This action by the CCP is a breach of USA sovereignty. This a serious geopolitical challenge to America but I do not believe President Biden is up to the challenge.

 

[westwoody]

The Americans can shoot it down whenever they want. They are concerned about damage it may do on the ground. Something that big falling from ten miles up would wreck your house.
Do you know what is powering the devices?Airplanes and satellites have lots of toxic and hazardous materials.
Don’t get sucked into the partisan rhetoric.

Note same thing happened under Trump.

 

[Uncled]

A few years ago there was a stray high-altitude weather balloon in Canadian airspace. A CF-18 fighter was sent to shoot it down with it‘s 20 mm cannon, but the shells went straight through the fabric without exploding. The balloon fabric basically closed around the holes, self-sealing and preventing any significant loss of helium. If I recall correctly, the balloon eventually came down in the ocean several days later.

 

[marsvolta]

The current level of political discourse in America…and she is on the committee “investigating” covid.

jewish space laser lady, the lady who just got her GED and the child prostitute guy who has his face in a bag of MDMA... GOP stars!

 

[Uncled]

A few years ago there was a stray high-altitude weather balloon in Canadian airspace. A CF-18 fighter was sent to shoot it down with it‘s 20 mm cannon, but the shells went straight through the fabric without exploding. The balloon fabric basically closed around holes, self-sealing and prevented any significant loss of helium. If I recall correctly, the balloon eventually came down in the ocean several days later.

Breaking News !

Chinese spy balloon shot down !

 

[westwoody]

Chinese spy balloon shot down !

Lots of videos! USAF must have given a heads up to point your cellphone LOL

If it had been shot down over land the debris field could be a couple of square miles. A lot of material would never be recovered.
In fifty feet of water it might be recovered completely.

Wonder if the missile was prepped/fused specifically for this balloon.

 

[Mrmotorscooter]

 

[rlock]

Wonder if the missile was prepped/fused specifically for this balloon.

I think their "it might hit someone on the ground" story was BS. I think they had 2 concerns in the background:
- Dropping it somewhere it would not be utterly smashed to bits
- Was it really just there to sample & send back their missile system radar signatures?

Apparently it was collecting SIGINT info, but as soon as the story hit the news, the Chinese shut down its communications so their own communications could not be sampled by US intelligence.

(So to answer Westwoody's question, maybe they used an older type of radar guided missile to blast it, rather than their best. It's a balloon after all - not like it can evade.)