USA Political Thread 2023

[carvesg]

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Yep I have been saying that for years . They congregate and start believing that they are part of the majority and that their opinion is a fact.

The ones in high school that Flunked most or all the bio, chemistry and physics courses but now through Facebook and the few internet sites supporting their theories have become experts .... without spending the 10,000 hours of studying and experimentation to be one . Same apply for geopolitical expertise with the ones who were struggling with geography and history.

Peter Zeihan vs most Republican senators or Congress representatives comes to mind in terms of geopolitics

Fall of the twin towers architectural and engineering studies vs mommy's basement son newly found photo disproving years of studies .

 

[Cock Throppled]

Just like the MSM, the same people here post insults, or deflections, but never address the actual issues with Biden.

Can you imagine how much "peer reviewing" or "verifying" or dismissal because of "Russian influence" would have been done if the abandoned laptop belonged to one of Trump's kids? Anyone who thinks the laptop, and subsequent ties to the Big Guy wasn't intentionally buried, is part of the same cult they think anyone else is in if issues are fairly examined beyond one-sided politics.

 

[carvesg]

Just like the MSM, the same people here post insults, or deflections, but never address the actual issues with Biden.

Can you imagine how much "peer reviewing" or "verifying" or dismissal because of "Russian influence" would have been done if the abandoned laptop belonged to one of Trump's kids? Anyone who thinks the laptop, and subsequent ties to the Big Guy wasn't intentionally buried, is part of the same cult they think anyone else is in if issues are fairly examined beyond one-sided politics.

You want us to agree about data retrieved from Hunter Biden's computer that has been confirmed , computer dropped off in late March early April at the repair shop , never retrieved by Biden with data confirmed that it was never tempered with prior to March 2019 . Yes so far I agree with that as it was authenticated by specialists in Minnesota. The same specialists who went over the files of the computer detained / retrieved by the FBI confirmed that after being dropped off by Biden those same files have been tempered with. So far it's the only confirmed

Are we still on the same page ?
Do you want us to speculate on the files before the drop off at the repair shop or the tempered files post drop off ?


Looks like all the media's are holding back because of the post April 2019 data was tempered with.
Did he deserved the lavish payments he got ? I don't think so .
Did hevget them because he was the son of the VP at the time or ex VP ? Yes definitely
Was it an attempt for a form of foreign lobbying ? Yes it points it that direction
Was it illegal ? Doesn't look like it so far
Was it ethical ? Doesn't look like it

 

[Mrmotorscooter]

Just like the MSM, the same people here post insults, or deflections, but never address the actual issues with Biden.

Can you imagine how much "peer reviewing" or "verifying" or dismissal because of "Russian influence" would have been done if the abandoned laptop belonged to one of Trump's kids? Anyone who thinks the laptop, and subsequent ties to the Big Guy wasn't intentionally buried, is part of the same cult they think anyone else is in if issues are fairly examined beyond one-sided politics.

The MSM quotes are such a joke as they are mostly espoused by Faux News zealots!🤪

 

[se7landrover97]

Can anybody here enlighten everybody here what Hunter Biden's crime is/are? Or what crimes he should be charged with?

 

[carvesg]

Can anybody here enlighten everybody here what Hunter Biden's crime is/are? Or what crimes he should be charged with?

So far what has been confirmed after reading about it .... Would be that he profited from his proximity to his father being US VP.
He got a position on the board of an Ukrainian gas company which paid him handsomely for little service time. No real advantages were gained by that tractation or no real lobby demonstrated so far.

A computer that he didn't have was located or retrieved by the owner of a computer fixing shop . The shop owner contacted the FBI to let them know that the computer that Biden didn't have was in his possession. The FBI retrieved it as evidence after the shop owner downloaded the files .

So far there are files kicking around pre March 2019 which have not been tempered with and files post April 2019 time it was dropped at the shop that have been tempered with. Confirmed by a firm from Minnesota specializing in retrieving digital data .

Pre March 2019 normal files with history of his Ukrainian dealings , his drug struggle, etc. and files tempered with by someone after April 2019 when Biden did not have access to that computer.

I have not dug any further as nobody seem to have full details pre March 2019 and the FBI is in possession of the famous computer...so anything else would be speculation or extrapolation.

To be continued....

 

[se7landrover97]

... so no charges has been filed yet. Ok. Are all these "crimes" being said about Hunter a threat to society and democracy? If not there is no point talking about it. If he is being charge with having used his last name to land a job or position in some company, it's not a crime. If there are any anomalies in the company, it would be for the Ukrainian authorities to investigate, isn't it? Which I believe will ever happen. People should instead look at the dealings about the $2 billion Trump son in law got from the Saudi, while still working as orangeman's senior adviser in the WH. If true, its peanut compare to what Jared Kushner did. That would be more interesting to watch.

 

[westwoody]

Trummp is once again announcing that he has a plan to save Medicare and Social Security.
Magats forget that he planned to cut them both in his budget.

 

[westwoody]

Re Hunter’s laptop, the chain of custody is so murky it is irrelevant. The analysts said several other people used it besides HB.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

Just to add another topic to the great You Es of A discussion, how about that Debt Ceiling thing?
Seems to come up every year or so and it's "Oh God, the Debt Ceiling, the Debt Ceiling and hand wringing and on and on .."
Then, it just goes away.
Of course the stock and currency markets immediately react.
All part of the great money shell game I suppose.

 

[Oldfart]

 

[rlock]

Just like the MSM, the same people here post insults, or deflections, but never address the actual issues with Biden.

Can you imagine how much "peer reviewing" or "verifying" or dismissal because of "Russian influence" would have been done if the abandoned laptop belonged to one of Trump's kids? Anyone who thinks the laptop, and subsequent ties to the Big Guy wasn't intentionally buried, is part of the same cult they think anyone else is in if issues are fairly examined beyond one-sided politics.

Can anybody here enlighten everybody here what Hunter Biden's crime is/are? Or what crimes he should be charged with?

Hunter Biden's a mostly-useless wastrel who got a cushy job overseas from people who hoped that his being Joe Biden's son was going to amount to some sort of special influence. No evidence he ever managed to get them anything special; possibly confirmation he's a wastrel who has his own separate career, but still disappoints dear old dad. Dad (Joe) may be a totally in-system conventional guy, a "company man" for the Dems all his political life, but he's still clever enough to never put his boy in charge of anything important or a position that's actually governmental.

Basically the Hunter Biden story is a big "nothingburger", but Republicans like to drag his name out there because they desperately need to engage in deflection when the Trump family's nepotism, sleaze, and corrupt influence peddling gets examined.

Same goes for this documents issue - the comparison is not "any versus none", it is really "how much, what for, how deceptive when discovered", but there too, the public perception of its severity can be tripped up using deflection.

It's even a tactically useful deflection to use the word "deflection" to deflect people away from these tactics of deflection.

Basically this is all just the "I know you are, but what am I?" schoolyard defense - only with billions of dollars spent to turn it into professional grade propaganda.

 

[westwoody]

$2 billion to Kushner dwarfs anything Hunter may have got.
$2.5 billion from Middle East investors landing in Steve Mnuchin’s lap has gone unnoticed amidst this kerfuffle.
Throw in Ivanka’s $600 million and there’s over $5 billion in payola.

 

[Cock Throppled]

The most coherant Biden has sounded...

 

[westwoody]

Trump and DeSantis are both openly talking about slashing social security and medicare.
Turning America into a vicious theocracy.
Rigging the tax system to benefit the top 1%.
Nobody talks about that.

Full credit to the GQP for playing their nagat base for the shortsighted imbeciles they are.

 

[Cock Throppled]

Trump and DeSantis are both openly talking about slashing social security and medicare.
Turning America into a vicious theocracy.
Rigging the tax system to benefit the top 1%.
Nobody talks about that.

Full credit to the GQP for playing their nagat base for the shortsighted imbeciles they are.

Because neither is president, or a nominee. Meanwhile, ignore the old man behind the curtain.

 

[masterpoonhunter]

One of my news app just put up the Headline "Jan.6 committee's final report - Trump was the Central Cause of the Attack on the Capitol".
Now I guess the issue will be a what now. Or a who cares. Or a whole bunch of back and forth amongst all the political pundits and arm chair experts.
Will real justice prevail?
Will the Cheeto get charged with sedition or maybe treason?
Get his day in court?
or in Leavenworth facing a firing squad?
Oh the political quagmire that bogs throughout the You Es of A.
One of my buddies told me back in 2015, man if you are into the US politics, get your popcorn maker ready cause its going to be a show! He was sure right.

 

[licks2nite]

US politics must still be viewed through a lens of dual citizens & blackmailed pedophiles from Epstein's island occupying prominent and senior levels of US government without the best interests of the United States nor its allies.

Most recently egregious, ousting of legally elected Ukrainian President Yanukovych in 2014 financed by Nuland under Obama, and non-governmental organizations funded by billionaire George Soros, for crass, smutty coke-snorting Zelenski shelling and killing 16,000 civilians in Donbas, obscured by media complacency for Putin's Special Military Operation, essentially a rescue operation.

Others recently: oustings in Libya, Balkins, and Afghanistan leaving civilians desperate that Canada participated. Slaughters in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Gaza & West Bank. Migrations. Perpetual war for financial profit. The military industrial complex.

In history: the French Revolution, the takeovers of Bank of England and Federal Reserve Bank, the Balfour Declaration, Bolshevik Revolution and Holodomor killing millions of farmers & intellectuals. Gulags killing 66 million according to Russian author Alexandr Solzhenitsyn.

 

[Mrmotorscooter]

Florida’s new Official Rainbow

 

[se7landrover97]

Trummp is once again announcing that he has a plan to save Medicare and Social Security.
Magats forget that he planned to cut them both in his budget.

I don't even believe he understands what is medicare or social security to be honest. Someone should ask him what what are the pros and cons of Medicare and Social Security.