Verb Geez...With these idiotic response...I will just ask the mod to delete this thread as it seems like some of you are not mature enough to handle a grown up conversation.[/QUOTE said:
Racist experience that pissed me off last week!
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yah never know what yah going to do if you are threaten and harrass yourself. Most times yah don't have time to think it over and react
duh what will happen if I take my bat out and swing it at them, will I get charge by the cops?
duh maybe I will let them take the first, second, third, fourth punch at me before I strike back in defense that is if I'm not dead already.
duh, lets talk this over coffee boys
duh, is there a cop around?
them fuckhead pukes deserve what they got. right on Verb.
duh what will happen if I take my bat out and swing it at them, will I get charge by the cops?
duh maybe I will let them take the first, second, third, fourth punch at me before I strike back in defense that is if I'm not dead already.
duh, lets talk this over coffee boys
duh, is there a cop around?
them fuckhead pukes deserve what they got. right on Verb.
LoL...Probably collecting cash....wolverine said:
They actually drag him to a alley.....Poor guy even had to work at domino the next day!
I was writing that earlier before I had to go to Survivor, because in Canada people don't press charges so much as the crown presses charges. The cops would ask both sides what happened and only press charges if they thought the crown and judge would agree it warranted convicting of a criminal offense. No sense arresting people only to drop the charges later!smackyo said:
Slap=assault? Tricky one. If a woman did it would she get charged? Would she get charged if the guy she smacked wanted to press charges? Without physical marks on him or witnesses most probably not! They would allow him to do a statement but the crown may not believe it without evidence, in which case there would be no warrant issued. It comes down to credibility and common sense being "was she defending herself or attacking with/without provocation?" I would say Verb was provoked, which justifies a few smacks and some cock poured on their wallets...
The cops in this case would a)tell the punks (who got slapped remember, and who have no marks on them) they deserved it and sent them on their way with a warning to "not let me catch you causing trouble again tonight" then b) given Verb a lecture about how he or his family could have been hurt and how it's best to avoid confrontation with people like that.
As I stated before I think verb's actions were clearly illegal, but I wasn't there and I didn't face the perceived threats. I am, however wondering about escalating the situation as he did with an eight year old present. I think the average person would have had the common sense to remove the kid from the situation ASAP, not have him potentially watch or get involved in a street brawl. Wonder what this kid thinks of his uncle's actions.
Ignorant comments, right. I think you wish that you had just kept this whole thing to yourself. If it is real, you over reacted and can't stand being slammed for it. You got scared and used a bat to show that your the man. I bet the next time the punks tangle with someone they'll come better armed. Thats how it starts to get serious.Verb said:Not angry....Just annoyed with your ignorant comments!
"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."
Salvor Hardin
Thanks for answering that question metoo113, I really wanted to know and indeed I have seen people talk other people down. Tough if English isn't your first language since it involves tact, discussion and taking though. Myself, if I see someone looking for a fight, I just light up a joint and 5 minutes later they're as mellow as a newborn kitten, lol.metoo113 said:
However, my favorite weapon of all time, which always always works and has never ever let me down, I like to call "shrill voice that gets louder and louder until I have a huge audience". Men can't pull it off and get away with it, but women can.
For example, Last year at the nude lake I go to, some uptight weirdo sitting beside me on the dock got splashed when I dove off the dock. (The peril of sitting at the edge.) I swam around and had just sat down when he said to me "if you ever splash me again I'll fucking kill you" so calmly I thought he was joking until he threw his (now damp) french newspaper into his bag angrily.
Initially I felt shocked, then angry as I realized I could have been a shy woman who would never come back and would think all nudists were horrible woman-threateners. I couldn't let him get away with that so I said (with a shrill voice getting louder and louder) "did you just say you would fucking kill me if I splashed you again?" with astonishment. His reply? "Keep your voice down" so I got to carry on my act "I will not keep my voice down when you just threatened to kill me for splashing you!" Keep in mind there are 30 of us on this dock, but some of them haven't heard me yet. He said again with real worry and panic "shhhh, please be quiet" so I said it again and added really loudly "anyone know this asshole?"
He was shitting himself by this point but someone is mediating and he wouldn't admit it was wrong so I walked away. Straight to Jodie, the lake gossip. I told her and her friends and they're eyeballing him, then I went to Daryl and his "harem" and related the story to them, then over to Rolf who actually had spoken to him before, and it turns out the guy had already addmitted he had an anger problem and usually sat by himself to avoid confrontation. Oops, bad day to come out of his shell! I'm pretty sure I taught him never to threaten a woman again, and I did it without violence....but I think he would have prefered the violence...
(I accidentally said Hi to him about a week later and he sheepishly said hi back, so my paradise was not tarnished by bad vibes, thank goodness!)
wilde said:
it does not really matter, but obviously more than one, so I am not writing nonsense.
And comparing whether or not it is easier or not for adults to learn, I don't care, sure you can argue that babies are more receptive, but perseverence and hard work goes a longer way than just being of an age bracket where it is easier to learn.
Don't want to stray off topic... one side of me is happy that Verb slapped those kids, while on the other side I am shaking my head in dissaproval, violence does not solve anything but it is easier said than done.
metoo113 said:
Laf.... You honestly believe you are some street god or something don't you!! Overreact for me?? Maybe...I think the bat part was protection and the slap and the coke was the anger side of me... What would you do??? Try to run away?
Verbs 1st post on the story;
Because he is very limited in his english he was quite intimidated by these four teens. I got seriously pissed off quick as they were starting to threaten me and the Macdonald's manager ask everybody to leave as he does not want to see this stuff in his restaurant. I ran to my car and I picked up my basball bat and my Club(anti-theft device) and gave it to my uncle. The minute the punks came out, I had my bat right against their head and made him apologize to my uncle. I took his wallet and wrote down his address from his Driver's license and dumped coke all over his wallet and threw it the garbage can. I gave him a few slaps accross the face and my uncle made me stop. I swear if my uncle wasn't there, I think I would of really hurt him.
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I still find it amazing that they stood there while u did all this! Clear you said there were four.
The comparison to Jack Chan has to do with the movies, and the approach of the situation. In real life that bat would have been used on you while u were busy doing all those other things, like writing down his address, which you retrived from his wallet, name wouldn't have seemed important would it? This to me sounds like the boy who cried wolf, and where I grew up that bat would have been up verbs ass, And that has nothing to do with race. Given your post and the details I still say BS.
Because he is very limited in his english he was quite intimidated by these four teens. I got seriously pissed off quick as they were starting to threaten me and the Macdonald's manager ask everybody to leave as he does not want to see this stuff in his restaurant. I ran to my car and I picked up my basball bat and my Club(anti-theft device) and gave it to my uncle. The minute the punks came out, I had my bat right against their head and made him apologize to my uncle. I took his wallet and wrote down his address from his Driver's license and dumped coke all over his wallet and threw it the garbage can. I gave him a few slaps accross the face and my uncle made me stop. I swear if my uncle wasn't there, I think I would of really hurt him.
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I still find it amazing that they stood there while u did all this! Clear you said there were four.
The comparison to Jack Chan has to do with the movies, and the approach of the situation. In real life that bat would have been used on you while u were busy doing all those other things, like writing down his address, which you retrived from his wallet, name wouldn't have seemed important would it? This to me sounds like the boy who cried wolf, and where I grew up that bat would have been up verbs ass, And that has nothing to do with race. Given your post and the details I still say BS.
Verb said:
No walking away is usually more effective. Not a street god, don't really know what that means but just someone who worked in bars for a lot of years and could have had a lot more fights then I did. But I talked to people and usually calmed them down enough to deal with them. We had a couple of guys who just wanted to fight, they only lasted a week and then we fired them. In a bar business a guy might be having a bad night and he wants to fight, calm him down and treat him right and you'll still have a customer and he will realize that you could have kicked his butt but you didn't. Fight him and all you have is a pissed of person who might files charges and hates the club and talks the place down all the time.
I don't think that I said it was too hard, just that it was very difficult and that patience could be shown. And I also don't think that you can really compare the situations of an adult learning a language to that of a baby.dipitydoo said:
Someone's already mentioned the brain developement factor, but we also interact with children much more differently than adults. We tend to speak more simply, more slowly and approach them with much more patience and cheer. If an adult is struggling with a language, there is often a tendency to dismiss the person as dumb. However, when a child is struggling in the similar way, there is much more tolerance shown to his or her mistakes.
metoo113 said:
Yes sir, and what would you do if you were in my shoes and you KNOW for a fact that these people will continue to harass you OR physically harass you when leaving the restaurant?
You gotta be kidding....
Theres four of us and one of you, and your holding the bat against his head not actually swinging it? Your only going to get one swing in and the guy who is going to get hit is going to defend himself to some degree, and at that point you would be seriously fucked. Get rid of the bat and you will have less trouble, thugs don't travel in groups of one and pull out a bat on any more than one, then you have a wish to get seriously hurt or dead. Thats the way it is these days.
Theres four of us and one of you, and your holding the bat against his head not actually swinging it? Your only going to get one swing in and the guy who is going to get hit is going to defend himself to some degree, and at that point you would be seriously fucked. Get rid of the bat and you will have less trouble, thugs don't travel in groups of one and pull out a bat on any more than one, then you have a wish to get seriously hurt or dead. Thats the way it is these days.
Yup...and My uncle had my back with the club...Now come on...You don't actually believe I was gonna hit the guy with the bat did yeah??? I hope that wasn't something I was leading you to believe? Trust me, I wouldn't swing the bat unless I really had to.mexman said:
Verb said:
Its impossible unless you have a crystal ball to know that these people were going to continue to harass you. Did you say anything to them to agrivate the conflict.
