Racist experience that pissed me off last week!

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His uncle was visiting from Hong Kong, why should he learn English? Cuz when I go to Hong Kong I won't learn their language, and I'm pretty sure they would be tolerant of that...and not use words like cock in a Mc Donalds to humiliate me.
Right on. I have never seen foreigners being hassled in Hong Kong for not speaking Cantonese. People need to realize that there are at least two sides to every story.
 

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Trust me...I would never ever pick a fight in a million years unless it is brought to me.

On-line personality?????....Grow up.

And avoid trouble???I follow you to your car with the intention of harming you..Would you just let them kick your ass or would you be defending yourself?
Your story isn't defending your self. You didn't say anything of the threat of violence against you.

All of a sudden you had a bat at someones head and then you took theiir walets, poured pop on them and threw them in the garbage. I am trying to figure out how 1 guy with a baseball bat acomplished this.
 

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Skirting the bat issue .....

Does everyone in Richmond carry bats in the car?? Ever notice the only people to get in gun fights are those with guns? Ever had to use this bat?

If you are up against real tough guys not just the pretend kind, one guy with a bat vs 4 guys with who knows what, you best come out swinging and keep swinging, cause in the real world that bat would be up your ass. And thats a fact I don't care what color you are.

Carring a bat around in your car, you are on the lookout for trouble. Otherwise why would you have it. Personal protection? It's more likely to get used on you.
 

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What Verb did plain and simple was wrong. It was illegal and and he should be punished for it. What these "punks" did was wrong as they were verbally abusive but you physically assaulted them and took on of their wallets. You would not be able to charge the punks with anything but I think they could lay some charges against you.

Violence does not solve anything.
wrong he could have charged them with hate crimes and disturbing the peace. if i was there verb i would have backed ya for sure. i swear one good thing about india is public beatings. someone does something contrary to the good nature of the society, society takes it upon themselves to administer a beating. they don't beat that person to a pulp or to death or anything extreme, they just let them know they fucked up.
 

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It seems pretty clear that Verb's story about the baseball bat, the wallets, the coke, and being outnumbered by four young thugs is both improbable and self-contradictory, changing to suit his convenience.
It makes me wonder whether the first part is true either.
 

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You should go back and read his post, first off there was racism unless "swim back to China" is an ok way of saying "welcome to Canada"?
"Swim back to china" isn't the sort of thing that should induce racial hysteria. It's ignorant and they're assholes, but calling it racism is just handy.

Saying something ignorant shouldn't neccessarily be equated with the hatred of particular race. Would it have been racism if they were making fun of a Brit's accent before telling him to swim back over the pond? No. Ignorant and uncalled for but not neccessarily racist. Assuming every ignorant thing that another (or your own) ethnic group does or says is based on racism is dangerous. Only leads to seeing it everywhere, anticipating it from everyone and untlimately propagating it.

A pack of punk kids making fun of a guy who sounds like he's asking for a "cock" instead of a "coke" isn't an idication of hatred on it's own. Shows zero sensitivity and lack of compassion, but hardly an indicator that they dress up in white sheets and burn crosses. (although the baseball bat may have inspired them to)

Massagegirl said:
Secondly he didn't "beat the crap out of" anyone, he just slapped the kid a few times and made him apologize. If the cops came, who would they side with -a family or 4 punk kids?
Slapped the kid a few times....while brandishing a baseball bat and taking wallets. If the cops came, they'd have no choice regarding who to side with.
 

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"Swim back to china" isn't the sort of thing that should induce racial hysteria. It's ignorant and they're assholes, but calling it racism is just handy.
How about "go back to phucking Ireland and grow your god damn spuds." Is that racism? Coz I heard that a lot in the UK, and the Irish lads sure thought it was.
 

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I'm with ya herb.

Ya, I have been wondering that myself. There is a strange odour coming from this thread. Verb, you've heard of this happening, seen it once, read a newspaper, and then you get a bat? Never get in any fights, yet you have a bat! You said you went right outside and got the bat and a club, and then approached them. Stuck the bat in his face. 4 on 1 and you showed em. Slapped him around a little? Were you able to hold your bat in his face the whole time. You said you held the bat in thier face, which indicates more than one face, so you were doing this while you slapped him arround, got his wallet, dumped the coke, you are one amazing dude for someone who never looks for trouble, even tho you carry a bat around in you car. This only happens in the movies and verb is short for Jackie Chan.

This story smells a lot like bullshit, seriously.
 

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Hey Mex

Maybe in your life you have never been threatened under the pretense of your race? So how could you possibly understand why verb or anyone would carry a bat in their car for their own protection. Clearly all you need are your fists to defend yourself against a number or potential assaillants and your fists are equally as effective as a bat.

And what are you trying to say comparing verb to Jackie Chan?????

Well Let me tell you stereotyping is a common trait amonst racists because it begets them actually having to think.
 

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Interesting read,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,myself,usually have an "18" inch chunk of hickory handle in my rides,,that ,and I'm usally packing.I've not had a problem in over 17 years,but there is always tomorrow and ya never know whats going to get thrown your way :cool:
 

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Verb said:
yup....But what would you do in a situation like that???? You leave the place and they are following you???

You have the right to defend yourself but not draw first blood.
 

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Kev said:
You have the right to defend yourself but not draw first blood.
My problem is I can't wait until they do the first strike, cuz I love to retaliate 10X more brutal then what I got.
 
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4 on 1 and you showed em.
I don't think that he ever said that it was 4 on 1. He did say that he got a club (steering wheel lock) and gave it to his uncle.

While I don't personally know Verb, he usually comes across as being an honest poster and I don't read anything here that would indicate that he's making anything up.

I'm glad you stood up for yourself Verb, but I'm happier that the situation didn't escalate into something worse.
 

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mexman said:
Ya, I have been wondering that myself. There is a strange odour coming from this thread. Verb, you've heard of this happening, seen it once, read a newspaper, and then you get a bat? Never get in any fights, yet you have a bat! You said you went right outside and got the bat and a club, and then approached them. Stuck the bat in his face. 4 on 1 and you showed em. Slapped him around a little? Were you able to hold your bat in his face the whole time. You said you held the bat in thier face, which indicates more than one face, so you were doing this while you slapped him arround, got his wallet, dumped the coke, you are one amazing dude for someone who never looks for trouble, even tho you carry a bat around in you car. This only happens in the movies and verb is short for Jackie Chan.

This story smells a lot like bullshit, seriously.

Fuck you for even asking if this was bullshit....This was the worst shit that can happen to someone and your saying I am making this shit up??? Man....Forget it...I am not gonna even bother defending myself against you knobs. The only reason I brought this to everybodys attention becasue I saw the other thread and the qoute it had about the Speaking english thing.

You are saying I had a choice? Well check this out. The minute the mangager has asked everyone to leave, I ran directly to my car as they guyz were coming out as well and has been verbally abusing my uncle on his way out. My car was parked right by the restaurant and if you ever been to the macdonald on bridgeport accross from ikea, you would know it is only about 5 feet from the parking stall. I yanked out my bat form my trunk where I always keep it with my golf clubs. Fuck...if you don't believe me...go asked that moron manager there that has asked everyone to leave. But don't go shittin on this thread because you are in denial that shit like this happens all the time.
 

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Herb_The_Perb said:
It seems pretty clear that Verb's story about the baseball bat, the wallets, the coke, and being outnumbered by four young thugs is both improbable and self-contradictory, changing to suit his convenience.
It makes me wonder whether the first part is true either.
Herb.....are you honestly telling me you have nothing in your car to protect yourself against anything? Shit happenes and I always wanna protect myself from people. Haven't you ever encountered a druck ass while clubing and hasseling you? I have and it is scary when 2 drunk ass is screaming at you and following you. My friend got his ass whopped before because he wouldn't let 3 guyz get in the line up in front of him at the club. They dragged his ass out of there and shit kicked him in front of his girlfriend! My point is shit like this happens and I always protect myself. So don't question why I carry bat/clubs in my car.
 

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Hardatwork said:
I don't think that he ever said that it was 4 on 1. He did say that he got a club (steering wheel lock) and gave it to his uncle.

While I don't personally know Verb, he usually comes across as being an honest poster and I don't read anything here that would indicate that he's making anything up.

I'm glad you stood up for yourself Verb, but I'm happier that the situation didn't escalate into something worse.
thanx.....I am glad your stickin up for me...as you know...I don't bullshit!
 

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smackyo said:
wrong he could have charged them with hate crimes and disturbing the peace. if i was there verb i would have backed ya for sure. i swear one good thing about india is public beatings. someone does something contrary to the good nature of the society, society takes it upon themselves to administer a beating. they don't beat that person to a pulp or to death or anything extreme, they just let them know they fucked up.

Because they made fun of the way someone spoke in McDonalds, while being racist and rude is not a hate crime. But what Verb did is a crime, its called assault with a deadly weapon. I don't think we want to go to a society where its okay to beat someone up if the make a racist comment.
 

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Verb said:
Fuck you for even asking if this was bullshit....This was the worst shit that can happen to someone and your saying I am making this shit up??? Man....Forget it...I am not gonna even bother defending myself against you knobs. The only reason I brought this to everybodys attention becasue I saw the other thread and the qoute it had about the Speaking english thing.
The worst thing that can happen to someone, give me a break. How about having most of your family dying in an oven in Poland in 1944.
 

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Verb said:
Herb.....are you honestly telling me you have nothing in your car to protect yourself against anything? Shit happenes and I always wanna protect myself from people. Haven't you ever encountered a druck ass while clubing and hasseling you? I have and it is scary when 2 drunk ass is screaming at you and following you. My friend got his ass whopped before because he wouldn't let 3 guyz get in the line up in front of him at the club. They dragged his ass out of there and shit kicked him in front of his girlfriend! My point is shit like this happens and I always protect myself. So don't question why I carry bat/clubs in my car.
Bounced in Vancouver and New West through alot of the 70's and 80's, never used anything but my fists,elbows and feet. If you bring up the level of violence by using a bat next time the guys will have a gun and your uncle and yourself will be gone.
 

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metoo113 said:
The worst thing that can happen to someone, give me a break. How about having most of your family dying in an oven in Poland in 1944.

Don't compare yourself to me.... "Worst thing that can happen" is a figure of speech. I used that phrase for my situation... You don't know me and you don't know who died in my family before so don't shit on me if you have some other issues.
 
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