Interested in being a "travelling hobbyist"? Let me encourage you!

[Pillowtalk]

I'll admit I basically just scanned through the posts in this thread (there are 245 posts already!), but I think part of the reason people are arguing so much is that we are talking about two different things.

1. Exploited women and children who are working against their will or to pay off a "debt" they were tricked into taking.

2. Women who have freely made the choice to enter this profession just like a woman in developed nations.

It's a little hard to have this debate when the two groups are blended (yes I realize sometimes it's a fine line)

We actually were not talking about two different things. Some of us were asking why the preference is to choose option one, even in a developing country, rather than option 2 considering that option 2 is readily available (the sps simply charge more than the bar girls)

If you skim the content of the thread, you can't really complain (or try to insist) that others aren't staying on topic.

You also took the time to dismiss a reference to youtube, which is only a hosting site and nothing to do with the content that was being referred to. You might want to take a few minutes to review (including tant's rather insulting and dismissive remarks about asian men in general), then come back with some commentary, on the actual topic.

 

[Pillowtalk]

Pillowtalk somehow managed to interpret tant's comment from his review "We carry on a lively, somewhat cerebral chat during Sarah's massage. Among other things, I learn about vicious conflicts between SPs vying for business." to mean that I was gossiping about other ladies.

That is false. I never discuss specific SP's with my clients, never make negative comments or name names.

How delusionally paranoid of you - but totally understandable knowing how you think.

We discussed the industry in general and the market study I conducted before deciding where in the Lower Mainland to set up my business when I moved earlier this year.

I am not a gossip. I am a professional secret keeper - and boy do I have some whoppers to keep.

You also managed to put a negative spin on what was a very positive review, so why don't you just STFU?!





There ya go ...

Interesting spin you have there, to claim this was an 'accusation' made by me, but carry on. At no time did I say that you did gossip about other sps, I said that he wanted to make it look like you did. Although, if you don't interpret chatting about other sps as 'gossip', we'll have to agree to disagree.

Was part of that 'market study' include the reaction you might have received when you put up those Want ads everywhere saying that once you leave, there will be NO decent sps left and that 'thousands' of men will be lost with no where to go? And that you were the only one qualified to do it or something? lol I doubt if I have seen anything so blatantly catty yet arrogant at the same time lol.

As for the comment on the review, I think my opinion of it matched Cock Throppled. You should take a minute to read that, there was no need for me to put a negative spin on it, tant already did that.

She's just not that into you, get over yourself.
Point the finger and blame a 'narrow acceptance range' but maybe, just maybe, the hot chicks you like just don't dig you. Don't be jealous that there's hot guys out there for competition, be realistic and maybe drop the bitter act and you'd have significantly more luck.

Also, there's a member here whom I know well, who proves your theory wrong. He learned it's about confidence and personality, oh and having a set of balls.

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Any attractive woman who is smiled at by an attractive man smiles back. Any young attractive woman who is leered at by a creepy old dude 30 years older than she, is not.

There's been something bugging me about this thread, I couldn't quite put a finger on it until now. The title of this thread is "Interested in being a "travelling hobbyist"? Let me encourage you!". Then we have a poll: "What's your attitude toward pooning where it's cheaper?". All the answers contain the words "developing countries". I think this is very telling towards the OP's frame of mind.

The next few remarks by the OP give you a few more glimpses into his beautiful/disgusting mind, depending on which side of the sand you stand on:

"What makes overseas pooning worthwhile for me in any case isn't only the incredible selection of exotic babes, but the erotic kick of knowing that I'm getting for next to nothing what in Vancouver is a $200 value."

"Personally, I'm utterly confident that traveling overseas on sex trips is as morally inspiring as it can be erotically satisfying. Becoming a travelling hobbyist is the right thing to do—as long as you cavort with adult women and treat them with the same respect all SPs deserve."

"It's indeed one of life's most amazing experiences, almost like a miracle, when a fat old ugly guy—despised by Western women like Anita—discovers his surprisingly high sexual market value in a developing country and is treated like a king by women there."

"But the miracle of developing countries is precisely that almost all Western men with a bit of spare cash immediately possess superior sexual market value in the eyes of local women. These women are amazingly forgiving of a man's physical imperfections and often eager not just to have sex with him, but to become his GF—hoping no doubt he'll find it in his heart to rescue them from the insecurity, squalor and chaos in which they live.

If even aging fat Western slobs are gratefully welcomed, a reasonably well-preserved gent will often find himself almost mobbed by women in Thailand or the Philippines (and, to a lesser extent, China)."



Anyone else didn't find any of that "morally inspiring"?

I thought your points should be reposted. You and jc made a lot of good ones, I think it is interesting that no one wants to believe there are guys with these POVs, and prefer to keep attacking the ladies in red here as though they are the only ones speaking out.

I don't know how you can with good conscience even think that you somehow have any respect for the Asian women you pay to have sex with. Yes, you might be able to speak their language. Yes, you might be foolishly sentimental at listening to old Chinese pop songs. But you certainly have no regard for Asian people and their culture. You are someone who clearly has disdain for the women and the men. Where it suits you, the women, you exploit. Where it suits you, the men, you disrespect. I hope you do not think yourself as someone who is a Sinophile and hope to gain acceptance by Chinese people, because it will soon be apparent except to those who are in desperate need of money or hopelessly stupid, that you are an enemy to them.

Gotta love it when an someone endlessly states what is already obvious in the minds of others as though it were some new insight into the human psyche. :crazy:
If anything these little jibs and jabs like the one quoted above tell more about what is really going on the minds their writers and give perbites a good indication of where not to spend their hard earned money. Good job at killing your own biz. eace:

So basically, you are saying that it's ok for you to assume, but not ok for her to? Not seeing the contradiction in that?

 

[wii49]

We actually were not talking about two different things. Some of us were asking why the preference is to choose option one, even in a developing country, rather than option 2 considering that option 2 is readily available (the sps simply charge more than the bar girls)

Yes and some are blending the two options together to berate guys who claim to only see the girls in option 2. Thought that was pretty clear but I guess some people don't pick up on things as easily as others.

If you skim the content of the thread, you can't really complain (or try to insist) that others aren't staying on topic.

I never claimed or insisted that others aren't staying on topic.

You also took the time to dismiss a reference to youtube, which is only a hosting site and nothing to do with the content that was being referred to. You might want to take a few minutes to review (including tant's rather insulting and dismissive remarks about asian men in general), then come back with some commentary, on the actual topic.

I have no clue what you're talking about (wow now I know what it feels like to be you, kinda sucks to be clueless). Let me try to address it. Someone told me I was wrong to say that there are women in SE Asia who have freely made the choice to work as a prostitute (just like in Canada), and she did so by referencing a "few YouTube clips" she saw where girls were unhappy. She claimed that since all the girls in these clips were crying, this meant that there was no such thing as a woman entering this profession by choice. I simply informed her that a sample of a "few YouTube clips" is not necessarily a fair representation of reality.

I think that sounds like the topic we are on, right?

Well, PT, thanks for writing 3 paragraphs that that either don't make sense or are incorrect. Good waste of everyone's time :thumb:

 

[wii49]

I was confirming aspects of his review of her. Now go play with your wee...

LOL whatever man. However you wanna justify it.. You're a creepy dude :nod:

 

[wilde]

LOL whatever man. However you wanna justify it.. You're a creepy dude :nod:

"LOL and whatever", are you a 12 year old teenager by any chance?

Calling sexual tourism in developing countries "morally inspiring", now that's creepy...

 

[wii49]

"LOL and whatever", are you a 12 year old teenager by any chance?

Calling sexual tourism in developing countries "morally inspiring", now that's creepy...

Good comeback but no, I simply couldn't think of anything else to say in response to your stupid attempt at justifying why you are asking SPs about other perb members.

I agree some parts of sex tourism that involve children or women who have been sold are creepy. But that doesn't change the fact that you are also creepy for what you do.

Most people on perb prefer to remain anonymous. Why you feel the need to snoop is beyond me. You are a creep.

 

[Walk Softly]

In another (probably futile) attempt to get back to the original subject...

In the last few Winters, I've traveled to Mexico for a short holiday. While my reasons for going were the common touristy ones, I feel no shame in having sampled the local talents at a price much lower than at home.

This is definitely not my main focus when traveling but like the OP, I think it's a great perk to be able to see exotic ladies at a discount rate while I'm there.

As when at home, I try to see ladies who are unquestionably of age and would avoid any place where I detected any vibe of coercion.

Doubtlessly, some posters will feel compelled to tell me what a scumbag I am but the opinions of faceless strangers (including my own!) shouldn't be taken too much to heart.

WS.

 

[lenny]

Calling sexual tourism in developing countries "morally inspiring", now that's creepy...

I think poster jesuschrist explained the concept quite well:

"Yes, you do give them a better life because you spend your big Canadian dollars over there, and yes, they would benefit from it."

And it "helps them a ton".

Consequently i give him a ton of credit for acknowledging that, something i have yet to see from you and a few others.

Tantalizme said:

""What makes overseas pooning worthwhile for me in any case isn't only the incredible selection of exotic babes, but the erotic kick of knowing that I'm getting for next to nothing what in Vancouver is a $200 value."

Some people here seem to have a problem with the above statement. I guess they never experienced or heard of any one else who got a "kick" out of purchasing something at a vastly reduced price.

"AC/DC - Dirty deeds done dirt cheap"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_t5GPbp5IY

 

[wilde]

Good comeback but no, I simply couldn't think of anything else to say in response to your stupid attempt at justifying why you are asking SPs about other perb members.

I agree some parts of sex tourism that involve children or women who have been sold are creepy. But that doesn't change the fact that you are also creepy for what you do.

Most people on perb prefer to remain anonymous. Why you feel the need to snoop is beyond me. You are a creep.

Okay wee wee, this is what I asked Rachel. Whether she remembered a Caucasian customer who speaks Mandarin and carries a bag with him with toys, and have many requests during the appointment (all of this info is freely available from his reviews)? She did and she told me what she thought of him as a customer which was contradictory to his rose coloured description of himself as the second coming of Casanova.

 

[lenny]

She did and she told me what she thought of him as a customer which was contradictory to his rose coloured description of himself.

Did it ever occur to you that prostitutes often tell people, in this case you, what she thinks you want to hear.

Somehow i don't get the impression you are Sherlock Holmes in your investigative abilities.


"Iron Man 2 - AC/DC - Shoot to Thrill"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzWaMRg5Bp8

 

[wii49]

Okay wee wee, this is what I asked Rachel. Whether she remembered a Caucasian customer who speaks Mandarin and carries a bag with him with toys, and have many requests during the appointment (all of this info is freely available from his reviews)? She did and she told me what she thought of him as a customer which was contradictory to his rose coloured description of himself as the second coming of Casanova.

Well I still say you are creepy. But can we agree that you are, at the very least...odd?

The fact that you did some snooping and then decided to post what a SP allegedly said about Tant crosses the line, IMO. Is it really necessary to get that personal? It's one thing to respond/insult someone for what is said on the board, but to snoop for information from a SP and post that on here...probably not appropriate. Again, just my opinion.

 

[wilde]

1] I'll guess you think the Westerner in Thailand using the services of the poorly paid Taxi Driver, Waiter, Tailor, & Shoe salesman is not exploitative, even if he is paying them 10 times less than the equivalent in Canada. But when it comes to the Westerner in Thailand using the services of the prostitute, who is in a high paying profession, for some reason it suddenly becomes exploitation. Which begs the question, why?

There you have it folks, the unusual psyche of our dear Lenny. He is equating all of the above jobs with being a prostitute. Bravo Lenny. Now I understand why we will never ever see eye-to-eye.

Did it ever occur to you that prostitutes often tell people, in this case you, what she thinks you want to hear.

Did it ever occur to you that she had no idea what answer I wanted to hear?

 

[lenny]

“Sex tourists, they’re called. Or as some prefer it, "romance travellers" looking for "love" and a little tenderness in the tropics.

…Canadians have made it into the slang lexicon, too. In Barbados, female sex tourism has been dubbed "Canadian secretary syndrome."

In Martinique, locals refer to incoming flights of Air Canada as "Air Coucoune" — French for "Air Pussy."

Little wonder. Canadian women in search of sex have been coming to the Caribbean for years.

"You guys were the pioneers," said Belliveau, who sells her 410-page book through her publishing website.

"Pretty much the first group (of female sex tourists) in the Caribbean after the takeoff of jet travel (in the 60s) was French-Quebecois women in Barbados," Belliveau said. "They had a tremendously high reputation among the local beach boys. They were fun loving and generous and a real great time." “

http://www.canada.com/ottawacitizen/story.html?id=2bdb148d-66df-4f8a-918f-ffe59d617b90

Did it ever occur to you that she had no idea what answer I wanted to hear?

Did it ever occur to you that she did & you're not Sherlock Holmes? That is, if your tale is not just a made up sea story.

There you have it folks, the unusual psyche of our dear Lenny. He is equating all of the above jobs with being a prostitute.

LOL, sure SP's & waiters do the same job.. riiiight. Ever hear the phrase "strawman argument":

"...is a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

 

[wilde]

Well I still say you are creepy. But can we agree that you are, at the very least...odd?

The fact that you did some snooping and then decided to post what a SP allegedly said about Tant crosses the line, IMO. Is it really necessary to get that personal? It's one thing to respond/attack someone for what is said on the board, but to snoop for information from a SP and post that on here...probably not appropriate. Again, just my opinion.

If you haven't already done so, go read a few of his reviews. Then tell me if you wonder some of them stem from a figment of his imagination. And for the record, I did not snoop. I did not ask anything personal. I just asked whether his review was accurate. In his reviews, he paints himself as god's gift to the mature Asian SP. In reality, he is just another customer albeit one that is a bit of a pain in the ass.

 

[wilde]

Did it ever occur to you that she did & you're not Sherlock Holmes?

Did it ever occur to you that you are the laughing stock of Perb?

 

[blazejowski]

Ugh... shut this monstrosity of a thread down already....

 

[badbadboy]

Did it ever occur to you that you are the laughing stock of Perb?

Wrong

Toblerony by a country mile ound:

Might as well throw in Joe45 too.

 

[wilde]

Wrong

Toblerony by a country mile ound:

Might as well throw in Joe45 too.

How about the bronze medal?:eyebrows:

 

[badbadboy]

How about the bronze medal?:eyebrows:

Or make it like Sports Day in Elementary Schools and they all get medals for showing up?

 

[blazejowski]

How about the bronze medal?:eyebrows:

No, don't give joe45 any kind of medal - he'll just use it to try and pick up chicks...