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PuntMeister

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The term was around far earlier than 2009 and didn't originally mean unprotected oral sex(necessarily). It was a term that denoted an attitude; more affectionate and less clinical than was the norm at that time. It was offered at the providers discretion and at a big premium. Over the years it has morphed into what you describe above and has less to do with attitude and "magic". Today a girl can be cold and checked out but as long as she performs certain sex acts without protection she is deemed "GFE".
Agree on some points, disagree on others. Yes, back in the nineties and 2000’s, gfe meant both a deeper attraction, connection, and vibe experience. AND, it also included kissing, making out like a horny boy and girl do, and then doing naughty things. This was gfe. Not just hanging out and talking about the latest pop star album and gossiping about your besties. Passionate smootching was THE historical ground rule for gfe back in the day. Maybe people had differrent interpretations and experiences, but please don’t try to re-write history or fuk over mainstream perb reviewers honest sharing by playing some sort of to each their own diversity card. No dancing around all the fuzzy nuts hyperbolie, no lip-locking=no gfe. Other stuff may be up for debate, but if an SP advertises GFE and doesn’t smootch with passionate buildup, dump her cuz she ain’t no Girl Friend!
 

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just a reminder... not going to be popular i am sure....

kissing and bbbj are not recommended at this time.... we're not even supposed to visit our family and friends...never mind full GFE or PSE....

sorry to derail a bit but please don't pressure people to risk their health or the health of their families at this time.... not to mention your own families or co-workers...

ok, back to your regularly scheduled programing....

love susie
 

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just a reminder... not going to be popular i am sure....

kissing and bbbj are not recommended at this time.... we're not even supposed to visit our family and friends...never mind full GFE or PSE....

sorry to derail a bit but please don't pressure people to risk their health or the health of their families at this time.... not to mention your own families or co-workers...

ok, back to your regularly scheduled programing....

love susie
So as long as we do not kiss and get a cbj, rolling around on top of each other 6 inches apart will keep us safe from Covid if either of us are carrying the virus?
 

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So as long as we do not kiss and get a cbj, rolling around on top of each other 6 inches apart will keep us safe from Covid if either of us are carrying the virus?
no, that's not what i said.... but your attitude that since its risky anyway, let's go full on and to hell with the consequences....is ridiculous...

the health authority is granting our industry to continue operating because of the measures people are supposed to take and the guidelines to that effect which we wrote.

if you care at all about providers being able to house and feed themselves, please don't pressure sp's to engage in banned activities.

it is not simply about whether it will protect us completely... it is about trying to as much as possible protect everyone involved....

if there is an outbreak associated with our industry because a few self centered individuals decided they didn't believe in COVID, are against masks or don't care... we could be shut down completely and we will ALL bear the consequences of these few individuals selfish actions...

try to think about more than yourself, try to think about the consequences for everyone.

do better

susie
 
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g eazy

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the point re: covid is, 0.05% less likely to catch something is still 0.05% more than 0% - i.e. do what you can. having said that everyone is an adult (minus a few i guess) that can make their own decisions

regarding the discussion around GFE... is this not pointless? we are arguing about the objectification of GFE in a forum that primarily functions for the objectification of women (honest truth, for better or for worse)
 
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the point re: covid is, 0.05% less likely to catch something is still 0.05% more than 0% - i.e. do what you can. having said that everyone is an adult (minus a few i guess) that can make their own decisions

regarding the discussion around GFE... is this not pointless? we are arguing about the objectification of GFE in a forum that primarily functions for the objectification of women (honest truth, for better or for worse)
Dude, too much "Woke-onium"... you can't "objectify" a basic definition, that is a tautology and you're using fancy words in the wrong context.

Plus, if you're so worried about objectifying women, then:
a) WTF are you doing here? LOL
b) it is entirely possible to relate to every SP as an individual rather than a barbie doll that talks; just because we are exchanging goods & services doesn't mean we can't be respectful, honest, kind, empathetic and treat everyone as a human being first & foremost.

PS: that was the point of the original post, that proper communication is paramount... and that includes consensus around the meaning of terms.
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought GFE actually meant something. Or, is it, too, a victim of this post-modernist trend towards truth being subjective to each individual's "reality"?

Perhaps this is only a pet-peeve of mine, but I'm curious if there are other members here who are tired of how the term "GFE" just gets thrown around to the point where it's a totally meaningless marketing term.

My understanding is that GFE came into play a couple of decades ago (or less, as the film "The Girlfriend Experience" with Sasha Grey came out in 2009) to specify a different kind of service other than simply intercourse with a condom, no kissing, covered BJ and, often, no DATY. That was the standard in the 80s & 90s, largely as a reaction to the HIV crisis when "safe sex" was the norm for pros & non-pros alike. In the early 2000s, when there was more comfort & knowledge around the risks and management of HIV and other STDs, some providers ventured to offer the "girlfriend experience" and it actually meant KISSING and UNCOVERED BJ and DATY... if that holy trinity is not the standard service, then the service is NOT GFE... correct?

I wish SPs would stop with the BS like "safe GFE" or "GFE, everything covered", which are meaningless, confusing, and further evidence of the hyperinflation and narcissism that permeates social media and commercial advertising.

Just because an SP thinks she's pretty, it doesn't mean she's GFE; just because an SP was nice to you, doesn't mean you got GFE.

People make their own choices, it's fine if providers or clients want to take further precautions for their own personal comfort around the inherent risks of any intimate contact... just don't advertise something you're not offering!!!

End of rant LOL
With a SP on the weekend and she told me that she puts GFE, Party Friendly, Low Rates so that the other girls wouldn't get all the guys. She then puts her hand out for a tip
 
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An old guy chiming in his 5 cents worth. Inflation right.

While I have only been enjoying this hobby for a little over a year and a half, a member here for about a year, chasing down all the acronyms at the beginning was at times confusing, a little frustrating at times and a whole lot of Hmmmm moments. In the beginning the GFE acronyms was a little confusing because the definition changed to some or all of what is written here so what do you believe. Without a "body" making a standardized rating system like the movie industry uses, and that will never happen, it is up to each person, SP and client alike to decide for themselves. Over my time here I have develop an introduction that I use to introduce myself to a potential SP. I include a name and some personal stat's so they have an idea of who I am, my physical appearance and fitness level. I also ask any questions about service upfront in this message in what I hope is a polite way.
Whoa, really? Has that been received politely? My experience (when I was able to cross the border) was that inquiring about any specific services that are not explicitly listed in their advertisement was verboten. Just for the record I was not asking for the service that shall not be mentioned.

I was only active in the hobby for a few months before the border closing though.
 

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Almost all those girls advertising on Leolist types of sites are bait and switch. Almost all fake pics and yes also bait and switch ads. Me personally I ask directly for the sex act I desire. I will ask her if she does DFK and BBBJ. GFE has now turned into a marketing strategy to attract customers. Best to stick with the well reviewed escorts on Perb.
Where can I find these reviews? Thank you
 

g eazy

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Dude, too much "Woke-onium"... you can't "objectify" a basic definition, that is a tautology and you're using fancy words in the wrong context.

Plus, if you're so worried about objectifying women, then:
a) WTF are you doing here? LOL
b) it is entirely possible to relate to every SP as an individual rather than a barbie doll that talks; just because we are exchanging goods & services doesn't mean we can't be respectful, honest, kind, empathetic and treat everyone as a human being first & foremost.

PS: that was the point of the original post, that proper communication is paramount... and that includes consensus around the meaning of terms.
it's already been beaten to death on this thread already so i'll just respond once: it's up to you to come to a consensus with the SP you are seeing to have a common understanding on what GFE is. perb isn't the webster dictionary for pooning. no discussion no matter how lengthy or how much back and forth is going to help you.

btw you should stop projecting, nowhere in my post did i claim to not objectify women. i ain't no saint, so i'm not sure how you came to the conclusions that you did. you even said so yourself
 

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My experience (when I was able to cross the border) was that inquiring about any specific services that are not explicitly listed in their advertisement was verboten. Just for the record I was not asking for the service that shall not be mentioned.

I was only active in the hobby for a few months before the border closing though.
Each girl is different. Unless the ad or website specifically states that she doesn’t discuss services, why not ask? I prefer to be up front about the services I offer.

Communication is everything, and usually the difference between a ‘good’ vs a ‘great’ session.
 

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Whoa, really? Has that been received politely? My experience (when I was able to cross the border) was that inquiring about any specific services that are not explicitly listed in their advertisement was verboten. Just for the record I was not asking for the service that shall not be mentioned.

I was only active in the hobby for a few months before the border closing though.
I have never been interested in the "not to be named service" nor will I even. As Skylar Mack stated all ladies are different. By asking up front about service the SP offers or includes in their time I hope to open an honest and up front dialog. Besides if an SP does not provide some or all of that info in their post or advertisement does it not make sense to ask up front instead of after you have walked in the door. It also gives them the option to say no thank you. While I have, on a couple of occasion's not received a reply I have never been told no thank you or that she wasn't interested. I mostly get thanked for a polite and upfront introduction.
 

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Services such as gfe and pse are all ymmv and are often very subjective.

Some clients will have better mileage than others based on their overall looks, hygiene , attitude and connection.
 
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Mr Quim

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Services such as gfe and pse are all ymmv and are often very subjective.

Some clients will have better mileage than others based on their overall looks, hygiene , attitude and connection.

I would agree with pretty much everything You're conveying ! 😉

But, I've got to wonder if "Bad Breath" is the most common offender, and the worst culprit in not achieving the best mileage in a GFE ? 🤔

Mr Q.
 
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