GFE false advertising rant

[beaveraddict]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought GFE actually meant something. Or, is it, too, a victim of this post-modernist trend towards truth being subjective to each individual's "reality"?

Perhaps this is only a pet-peeve of mine, but I'm curious if there are other members here who are tired of how the term "GFE" just gets thrown around to the point where it's a totally meaningless marketing term.

My understanding is that GFE came into play a couple of decades ago (or less, as the film "The Girlfriend Experience" with Sasha Grey came out in 2009) to specify a different kind of service other than simply intercourse with a condom, no kissing, covered BJ and, often, no DATY. That was the standard in the 80s & 90s, largely as a reaction to the HIV crisis when "safe sex" was the norm for pros & non-pros alike. In the early 2000s, when there was more comfort & knowledge around the risks and management of HIV and other STDs, some providers ventured to offer the "girlfriend experience" and it actually meant KISSING and UNCOVERED BJ and DATY... if that holy trinity is not the standard service, then the service is NOT GFE... correct?

I wish SPs would stop with the BS like "safe GFE" or "GFE, everything covered", which are meaningless, confusing, and further evidence of the hyperinflation and narcissism that permeates social media and commercial advertising.

Just because an SP thinks she's pretty, it doesn't mean she's GFE; just because an SP was nice to you, doesn't mean you got GFE.

People make their own choices, it's fine if providers or clients want to take further precautions for their own personal comfort around the inherent risks of any intimate contact... just don't advertise something you're not offering!!!

End of rant LOL

 

[Cloud 500]

Almost all those girls advertising on Leolist types of sites are bait and switch. Almost all fake pics and yes also bait and switch ads. Me personally I ask directly for the sex act I desire. I will ask her if she does DFK and BBBJ. GFE has now turned into a marketing strategy to attract customers. Best to stick with the well reviewed escorts on Perb.

 

[Panza22]

GFE means different things to different people. If something is a deal breaker ensure you ask ahead of time so neither is disappointed.

Sames goes for PSE.

 

[GeeBeeP]

We all have our definitions I guess. To me GFE means more than just kissing and an BBBJ. (I've had amazing GFE sessions with a covered BJ, but kissing is a must for me)

I have always taken a GFE to mean a more sensual and intimate encounter. Some conversation and effort to make a personal connection, perhaps a bit of flirting and making out on a couch prior to hitting the sheets, cuddling and pillow talk between rounds etc...

False advertising for me is an SP advertising GFE but none of the above is involved in the session. I know chemistry has a lot to do with any experiences and YMMV as always, but IMHO an SP who isn't interested in trying to know her client and make an attempt at a connection shouldn't be advertising a GFE.

I'm ok with an SP offering a "safe GFE" as long as she is up front about it and everyone understands what that entails.

 

[PuntMeister]

Agree with your rant. I nominate beaveraddict for GFE Police. You get a little badge with a big set of lips on it. Educate the mis-users and bust the flagrant violators. Clean up the streets baby!

For me, no kissing is definitely not GFE. I will support your uncovered BJ and Daty criteria too. Things you’d do with a real GF. Bloody scammers and abusers of the fine GFE term. Thank god we have Perb to review the real GFE providers and out the charlatans.

 

[westwoody]

GFE is meaningless now, advertisers stick it in their ad because everyone else does.

Another vague meaningless term is “petite”. Could be anything from a 4’11” pixie to Cara Dune.

 

[Real Sonny Burnett]

You should take it up with the Better Business Bureau.

 

[Fiona]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought GFE actually meant something. Or, is it, too, a victim of this post-modernist trend towards truth being subjective to each individual's "reality"?

Perhaps this is only a pet-peeve of mine, but I'm curious if there are other members here who are tired of how the term "GFE" just gets thrown around to the point where it's a totally meaningless marketing term.

My understanding is that GFE came into play a couple of decades ago (or less, as the film "The Girlfriend Experience" with Sasha Grey came out in 2009) to specify a different kind of service other than simply intercourse with a condom, no kissing, covered BJ and, often, no DATY. That was the standard in the 80s & 90s, largely as a reaction to the HIV crisis when "safe sex" was the norm for pros & non-pros alike. In the early 2000s, when there was more comfort & knowledge around the risks and management of HIV and other STDs, some providers ventured to offer the "girlfriend experience" and it actually meant KISSING and UNCOVERED BJ and DATY... if that holy trinity is not the standard service, then the service is NOT GFE... correct?

I wish SPs would stop with the BS like "safe GFE" or "GFE, everything covered", which are meaningless, confusing, and further evidence of the hyperinflation and narcissism that permeates social media and commercial advertising.

Just because an SP thinks she's pretty, it doesn't mean she's GFE; just because an SP was nice to you, doesn't mean you got GFE.

People make their own choices, it's fine if providers or clients want to take further precautions for their own personal comfort around the inherent risks of any intimate contact... just don't advertise something you're not offering!!!

End of rant LOL

I got told today I was a ... let’s see , let me get this straight ... “A false advertising Twat” because my GFE does not include ?
You guys need an education on what GFE is all about too .

 

[bacardi2017]

I got told today I was a ... let’s see , let me get this straight ... “A false advertising Twat” because my GFE does not include?
You guys need an education on what GFE is all about too .

I totally agree with you

 

[g eazy]

Or, is it, too, a victim of this post-modernist trend towards truth being subjective to each individual's "reality"?

Yes. Next question.

 

[beaveraddict]

I got told today I was a ... let’s see , let me get this straight ... “A false advertising Twat” because my GFE does not include ?
You guys need an education on what GFE is all about too .

Respectfully, I don’t understand your post. Do you advertise GFE and not provide the services associated with the term?
And someone called you out?
Am I missing something...?

 

[MissingOne]

I got told today I was a ... let’s see , let me get this straight ... “A false advertising Twat” because my GFE does not include ?
You guys need an education on what GFE is all about too .

Your GFE doesn't include a little yellow emoticon?

 

[Number17]

Respectfully, I don’t understand your post. Do you advertise GFE and not provide the services associated with the term?
And someone called you out?
Am I missing something...?

I read her original post earlier. Her client complained that her service did not include <a service not to be mentioned here>. Since it’s not supposed to be mentioned, her post got edited by a mod. That’s why the post sounds confusing.

 

[masterblaster]

Respectfully, I don’t understand your post. Do you advertise GFE and not provide the services associated with the term?
And someone called you out?
Am I missing something...?

You missed her post before it was edited I presume.

 

[Fiona]

Respectfully, I don’t understand your post. Do you advertise GFE and not provide the services associated with the term?
And someone called you out?
Am I missing something...?

Yes , yes you are .

 

[GabriellaGrace]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I always thought GFE actually meant something. Or, is it, too, a victim of this post-modernist trend towards truth being subjective to each individual's "reality"?

Perhaps this is only a pet-peeve of mine, but I'm curious if there are other members here who are tired of how the term "GFE" just gets thrown around to the point where it's a totally meaningless marketing term.

My understanding is that GFE came into play a couple of decades ago (or less, as the film "The Girlfriend Experience" with Sasha Grey came out in 2009) to specify a different kind of service other than simply intercourse with a condom, no kissing, covered BJ and, often, no DATY. That was the standard in the 80s & 90s, largely as a reaction to the HIV crisis when "safe sex" was the norm for pros & non-pros alike. In the early 2000s, when there was more comfort & knowledge around the risks and management of HIV and other STDs, some providers ventured to offer the "girlfriend experience" and it actually meant KISSING and UNCOVERED BJ and DATY... if that holy trinity is not the standard service, then the service is NOT GFE... correct?

I wish SPs would stop with the BS like "safe GFE" or "GFE, everything covered", which are meaningless, confusing, and further evidence of the hyperinflation and narcissism that permeates social media and commercial advertising.

Just because an SP thinks she's pretty, it doesn't mean she's GFE; just because an SP was nice to you, doesn't mean you got GFE.

People make their own choices, it's fine if providers or clients want to take further precautions for their own personal comfort around the inherent risks of any intimate contact... just don't advertise something you're not offering!!!

End of rant LOL

The term was around far earlier than 2009 and didn't originally mean unprotected oral sex(necessarily). It was a term that denoted an attitude; more affectionate and less clinical than was the norm at that time. It was offered at the providers discretion and at a big premium. Over the years it has morphed into what you describe above and has less to do with attitude and "magic". Today a girl can be cold and checked out but as long as she performs certain sex acts without protection she is deemed "GFE".

 

[SeekSteadyRegSP]

You get a little badge with a big set of lips on it. Educate the mis-users and bust the flagrant violators. Clean up the streets baby!

... yeah, and Drain the swamp !

 

[Fiona]

I don’t exactly know how “not” to be , Gfe is just my nature , I think it’s the core energy of all my sessions that only gets better and more “GF’y with time . My favourite clients are ones I can be completely myself with and that’s when you get the ultimate GFE , when you allow for humour , intimacy & connection . More then just stuffing holes ? ??

 

[beaveraddict]

I don’t exactly know how “not” to be , Gfe is just my nature , I think it’s the core energy of all my sessions that only gets better and more “GF’y with time . My favourite clients are ones I can be completely myself with and that’s when you get the ultimate GFE , when you allow for humour , intimacy & connection . More then just stuffing holes ? ??

Hi Fiona,

Apologies for the confusion about your post, I only saw the edited version.

I think what you & Gabriella have focused on is the spirit of the term, which is another issue. The intention of my post was not to get side-tracked into a debate about levels of intimacy or connection or "magic" - which are incredibly subjective and impossible to define - YMMV, right? Rather, it was to call attention to SPs using the term GFE in bad faith and my belief (naïve?) that some weight must be given to current common usage.

SIDEBAR: thanks for the history lesson Gabriella ?

So, saying it's "more than just stuffing holes" is a bit disingenuous, frankly. There are SPs who know full well that there is a general consensus around the meaning of the term (BBBJ, DATY, LFK/DFK) yet use it dishonestly to advertise themselves as GFE when they have no intention of providing the services associated with the term, or will only provide them, grudgingly, for extra fees. Which, ironically, is quite the opposite of "girlfriend" behaviour, unless we're talking "gold-digging girlfriend from hell" LOL.

Again, respectfully, I don't think we're the debating the same issue.
BA

 

[Big_Guy_Rye]

I always assumed GFE was more of the tempo of the session, rather than a prescribed list of acts some believe they need to commit toward.

Like a being intimate with a newfound lover for the first time. Slow burn journey to the destination with a lot of tease and conversation.

As opposed to PSE, where the tempo is sped to ridiculous proportions, it's not about emotional connections just pure carnality.