Ever think guys, you might have been the one we warned the other girls about

[Massagegirl]

Would you guys prefer we refuse service after you get naked (cuz the bum smell isn't evident til then) or just grin and bare it, saving you from ever knowing about your bum smell? Mostly I grin and bare it, although I have gotten a few hot clothes for people who were especially bad.

I'm asking legitimately because I think it is rude to refuse service to anyone, once they have made the effort to show up (mind you I am not sticking my face down there during a R & T), so the show must always go on. Besides I can't speak for other girls but I doubt any of us could afford to refuse service to every third guy...

 

[EVE*]

WOW MASSAGEGIRL !!!
YOU can say what most girls are to nice to say !!
and YES I too have needed a hot cloth for someone who can't tell they smell bad or used powder!!

 

[rockyy]

hmm..i don't know what to suggest. Yeah,.suggest a shower from the get go, but if he takes offense or refuses I guess you just have to muddle through.
But boy, I am DEFINITELY going to scrub up the next time.

Whaddya say guys? Let's make a pact ... ya know if it means better service I am there..

WOW MASSAGEGIRL !!!
YOU can say what most girls are to nice to say !!
and YES I too have needed a hot cloth for someone who can't tell they smell bad or used powder!!

 

[wtflmfao]

Man this River is getting Wide

You girls really think you deserve some sort of praise for what you do. Wake up. Smell the coffeee. Shake your heads. Bluntly, you are paid to spend time with unknown persons doing intimate things. If someone disgusts you, forego the money. It's a simple formula.

 

[Tiffany]

Comments from my peanut gallery

I don't think that this is all about body odors...

My theory is that so many girls are getting bad reviews from you because they're not providing the same service that you've recieved elsewhere. To expect perfect 10 service from every girl at any given moment is just crazy.

All girls talk and have you all numbered. Maybe thats why some of you get bad service because you guys are having an "off day" when they've seen you.
After any bad or smelly or arrogant encounters, the girls get warned. If you are a known PERBert, we get warning. If you were the guy that gave a bad review that they considered unfair, well you get my point.

There are very few girls in this business for the pure enjoyment of it.

I remember awhile back that I had this one client who used to come see me, it was so aweful. Every session just got worse and worse. I used to hide in the closet when he came in. After 2 yrs of hiding in a closet he stopped seeing me. There comes a point when money is no longer worth it. But if it ever came down to it and I was broke and needed the money that badly, you would see the sweetest little me I had to offer.

Forgive me for saying this, but most of you guys are spoiled! There's nothing wrong with being pampered, but being upset at the girl because you didn't last the whole hour, or she didn't do that thing the last girl did is very judgemental. I understand the right to have your own opinion, but some of you forget that we are human, and we have regular everyday lives. We don't live our lives at the local mp waiting to give every man, woman and dog pleasure. It's amazing how many ppl are so quick to judge and disrespect us.

I'm just wondering when this job went from adult entertainment to sell your soul. Most guys here I noticed aren't happy unless the girl is perfect, and lets the guy do anything they want. Does anybody remember STD's?? BBanything will let you catch something. Even if it doesn't show up right away...

80% of the pooning population does not visit perb or have any clue of it. So most don't really pay you any mind for your reviews. There are some on here who are greatly respected, and others that should find a new hobby. Or at least that's what I am told. But hey who am I to say anything, most would agree that I don't get paid to have an opinion.

Tiff

 

[wolverine]

Forgive me for saying this, but most of you guys are spoiled! There's nothing wrong with being pampered, but being upset at the girl because you didn't last the whole hour, or she didn't do that thing the last girl did is very judgemental.

I suppose you're right. After all, certain SPs have raised quite a high bar for the rest of you. But that's a good thing if most of you are aiming to attain or exceed that level.

We don't live our lives at the local mp waiting to give every man, woman
and dog pleasure.

 

[rockyy]

Cry me river...

Yeah i know it's soooooooooo tough being an SP. You wanna know what's rough? Getting up and going to work every morning of your life.

I'd like to see any of you try that...



My theory is that so many girls are getting bad reviews from you because they're not providing the same service that you've recieved elsewhere. To expect perfect 10 service from every girl at any given moment is just crazy.

All girls talk and have you all numbered. Maybe thats why some of you get bad service because you guys are having an "off day" when they've seen you.
After any bad or smelly or arrogant encounters, the girls get warned. If you are a known PERBert, we get warning. If you were the guy that gave a bad review that they considered unfair, well you get my point.

There are very few girls in this business for the pure enjoyment of it.

I remember awhile back that I had this one client who used to come see me, it was so aweful. Every session just got worse and worse. I used to hide in the closet when he came in. After 2 yrs of hiding in a closet he stopped seeing me. There comes a point when money is no longer worth it. But if it ever came down to it and I was broke and needed the money that badly, you would see the sweetest little me I had to offer.

Forgive me for saying this, but most of you guys are spoiled! There's nothing wrong with being pampered, but being upset at the girl because you didn't last the whole hour, or she didn't do that thing the last girl did is very judgemental. I understand the right to have your own opinion, but some of you forget that we are human, and we have regular everyday lives. We don't live our lives at the local mp waiting to give every man, woman and dog pleasure. It's amazing how many ppl are so quick to judge and disrespect us.

I'm just wondering when this job went from adult entertainment to sell your soul. Most guys here I noticed aren't happy unless the girl is perfect, and lets the guy do anything they want. Does anybody remember STD's?? BBanything will let you catch something. Even if it doesn't show up right away...

80% of the pooning population does not visit perb or have any clue of it. So most don't really pay you any mind for your reviews. There are some on here who are greatly respected, and others that should find a new hobby. Or at least that's what I am told. But hey who am I to say anything, most would agree that I don't get paid to have an opinion.

Tiff[/QUOTE]

 

[Tiffany]

Sorry to burst your bubble

But I do get up every morning and go to work and not at the mp!!!

I have put myself through school and now I'm working at my career!! I still work as an sp to pay my student loans. Not all of us want to be here until were 50+!! That would be something else you could review a girl on, the fact she's old enough to be your mother!!

I'm not saying that my life is so hard and you must shed a tear for me, I'm saying that some of you are not quite as respectful as you could be.

To set the record straight, that was my opinion and I take my job seriously. I do my best to give the best service I can offer.

Rockyy come spend a day at work with me and we'll see how well you'll do!!!

Tiff

 

[Maury Beniowski]

You wanna know what's rough? Getting up and going to work every morning of your life.

So why do you put yourself through such torture? Get off your soapbox and do something meaningful with your life; something that won't leave you feeling the way you do. You have no one to blame but yourself for this mediocrity. It's nakedly obvious you're on the wrong path just from your own words. If you're smart enough to complain, then you're smart enough to do something about it.

 

[maverick73]

MOR - Maverick's Offical Rant

I haven't read every post, but I get the gyst (sp?) of it. I vaguely recall some girl mentioning something about taking a shower at 9am and thinking you're still clean at 2:00 pm.

One, take a shower right before you go see the girl if possible. Most importantly, clean your friggin ass crack like there was no tommorow with the best damn soap man can make... and then stick some of that nice smelling soap on your finger and stick it up your ass to clean out all that home made ass juice.... and if you're going for a 2pm appointment, don't go to one of those all you can eat curry places for lunch... you are what you eat, and your body secretes the spices... no SP wants to suck on a cock that tastes like it's fresh out of the f$ckin' tandoori oven!

Two, wipe until white... once you're out of the shower, make sure to keep wiping your ass until the toilet paper stays white. If there's a friggin brown streak, keep wiping... I don't care if you end up using the whole damn roll, if it's still brown, don't expect the chick to go down... and for the love of Mav (was going to say God, but most of this board seems to be atheist), wipe backwards... don't wipe forwards and move your freshly made ass juice to the bottom of your nutsack and expect the chick to tongue your scrote.. If you are in the habit of wiping forward, then at least start at the back, wipe hard to the middle of your asshole, and then COME AWAY from your body. Once more or less white, finish up with a few backstrokes until white.

Three, this one's for free... if you expect DFK, learn how to friggin kiss. First, keep some of those Listerine pocket packs handy... you don't want to smell like something crawled down your throat and died (or didn't die if you're Barnie from the Simpsons)... Don't come off as the security gurard in Terminator 2 trying to jam his tongue down Sarah Connor's throat and freak the SP out... SLOWLY move into the kissing position 80-90% and let her come the rest of the way. Start with a few light kisses with the lips only instead of making her think your tongue is a frickin lizard looking for a new home in her stomach. After you melt her with a few expert smooches, it's time for a little tongue action, but her tongue is not looking to arm wrestle yours right away... go easy tiger! SLOWLY try putting your tongue into that spot just beneath her tongue and let her "embrace" your tongue with hers... by then, she usually forgets that I'm an ugly overweight 73 year old and thinks I'm a good looking 37 year old!!! Proceed as you both read...

What are you waiting for? Go take that shower and feel the power!!!

 

[rockyy]

Now let me get THIS straight...

No, what you´re saying is we´re all unbathed, unappreciative, ungentlemanly yahoos from the ape hills of Surrey, with more cash than culture. I mean, I have to assume that because all I´ve heard on this board is whining and complaining and NOT A SINGLE LADY has deigned to say, 'Gee guys, we actually appreciate your business and thanks a lot....'

Actually I have to admit it's not fair to single out SPs on that. NOBODY in the service industry, whether its hotels or restaurants or airlines or catering, ever has anything nice to say about their clientele. Just seems to be that way. But ya know, SP's are just a litttttle different because they're at the topend of the payscale, they make a heckuva lot more than waiters (waiters? hell, a lot of you make more than lawyers or judges), and they're more or less self employed.

And uh, answer me this Tiff...if you have a straight job, and you don´t need the dough from the MP like all the poor, misunderstood waifs on this board who do, then why exactly do you do it? I mean, is it JUST to pay off your student loan, or is it because it ain´t really such a bad gig.

Oh and something else I'm dying to know....Paige says 30% of her clients are dorks. Would you say that corresponds roughly to the number of dorks you have to work with at your straight job?

But I do get up every morning and go to work and not at the mp!!!

I have put myself through school and now I'm working at my career!! I still work as an sp to pay my student loans. Not all of us want to be here until were 50+!! That would be something else you could review a girl on, the fact she's old enough to be your mother!!

I'm not saying that my life is so hard and you must shed a tear for me, I'm saying that some of you are not quite as respectful as you could be.

To set the record straight, that was my opinion and I take my job seriously. I do my best to give the best service I can offer.

Rockyy come spend a day at work with me and we'll see how well you'll do!!!

Tiff

 

[FuZzYknUckLeS]

It is in your own best interest to ensure your hygiene is top notch before going to your appointment.
If you don't repulse the SP, you will likely get that much better of a session. If she isn't repulsed by you, there is a slightly better chance of her getting into the session.
Honestly, as far as being turned away for bad hygiene by an SP, I think there's nothing wrong with that. Tell me I smell bad, I will be both embarrassed that I presented myself this way in public, and thankful that you let me know so I can correct the problem before running into more people, like biz associates, and creating a bad impression of myself. Alot of guys just don't have a fucking clue that they reek. It isn't that they don't care. So tell 'em.

 

[travel guy]

Some of these responses just make it perfectly clear what the OP was referring to.

As for the "if it disgusts you, just refuse the session" argument, I can just imagine the bitch-fest that would ensue if these women started doing just that. I've read this sort of argument here before.

The old " She's for sale. That means she HAS to do WHAT I want WHEN I want. She's a PRODUCT and has no right to expect ME to do ANYTHING to make her job easier" and it seems clear to me that those who adopt that attitude are those who consistently have shitty sessions. An sp refusing a session with this type of pooner is pretty much guaranteed to only deepen the misogynistic view.

I've met some very decent and intelligent women through this hobby and it's obvious that they know very well what/who they're dealing with and adjust their service level accordingly. If they're giving you the sort of service that results in you never returning, there's a very good chance that it was intentional, but to say that you'd rather the session be refused is a joke. That'd only provide fuel for your next "who the fuck do these whores think they are" type spiel.

Say what you will in this thread, but if there were a "should sps refuse service to "disgusting" clients" thread, the same pooners claiming that sps OWE it to them to refuse service would no doubt be the same pooners claiming that sps OWE it to them to just put out and get over it...anything to reafirm their belief that since it's for sale, surely they own the product.

 

[Maury Beniowski]

No, what you´re saying is we´re all unbathed, unappreciative, ungentlemanly yahoos from the ape hills of Surrey, with more cash than culture. I mean, I have to assume that because all I´ve heard on this board is whining and complaining and NOT A SINGLE LADY has deigned to say, 'Gee guys, we actually appreciate your business and thanks a lot....'

Actually I have to admit it's not fair to single out SPs on that. NOBODY in the service industry, whether its hotels or restaurants or airlines or catering, ever has anything nice to say about their clientele. Just seems to be that way. But ya know, SP's are just a litttttle different because they're at the topend of the payscale, they make a heckuva lot more than waiters (waiters? hell, a lot of you make more than lawyers or judges), and they're more or less self employed.

And uh, answer me this Tiff...if you have a straight job, and you don´t need the dough from the MP like all the poor, misunderstood waifs on this board who do, then why exactly do you do it? I mean, is it JUST to pay off your student loan, or is it because it ain´t really such a bad gig.

Oh and something else I'm dying to know....Paige says 30% of her clients are dorks. Would you say that corresponds roughly to the number of dorks you have to work with at your straight job?

Rockyy, that makes a lot more sense than your previous post.

 

[rockyy]

But it IS a product. And it IS for sale...

Jeeze, no wonder women think men are stupid. We are. Here´s a bunch of jokers willing to shell out two or three or five hun, or in one case on this board 14 hun, for an hour or less and you´re all nervous and scared that - gosh! - you might offend the service provider by treating her as if she's for sale. NEWS FLASH! She is!

There's no reason why you shouldn't be clean, cordial, polite. But let´s not kid ourselves here: The guys who contribute reviews and opinions and information to this board do so in an effort to create awareness of where value may or may not be found. The women, however, (and in some cases they're masquerading as men) are here to drive sales and pricing.

Not that there's anything wrong with that! But you might want to consider it the next time you're tempted to ride to the rescue of women contributors who heap scorn on a review or reviewer.

But ya know...if you wanna believe that these posts that float the idea of flying an SP first class to Vegas for a weekend with $3 grand in spending money, are written by ´men´, then go right ahead. A fool and his money are lucky to get together in the first place.

Actually I think any review that mentions pricing is suspect. The prices always seem to be overinflated...

Some of these responses just make it perfectly clear what the OP was referring to.

As for the "if it disgusts you, just refuse the session" argument, I can just imagine the bitch-fest that would ensue if these women started doing just that. I've read this sort of argument here before.

The old " She's for sale. That means she HAS to do WHAT I want WHEN I want. She's a PRODUCT and has no right to expect ME to do ANYTHING to make her job easier" and it seems clear to me that those who adopt that attitude are those who consistently have shitty sessions. An sp refusing a session with this type of pooner is pretty much guaranteed to only deepen the misogynistic view.

I've met some very decent and intelligent women through this hobby and it's obvious that they know very well what/who they're dealing with and adjust their service level accordingly. If they're giving you the sort of service that results in you never returning, there's a very good chance that it was intentional, but to say that you'd rather the session be refused is a joke. That'd only provide fuel for your next "who the fuck do these whores think they are" type spiel.

Say what you will in this thread, but if there were a "should sps refuse service to "disgusting" clients" thread, the same pooners claiming that sps OWE it to them to refuse service would no doubt be the same pooners claiming that sps OWE it to them to just put out and get over it...anything to reafirm their belief that since it's for sale, surely they own the product.

 

[travel guy]

But it IS a product. And it IS for sale...

Jeeze, no wonder women think men are stupid. We are. Here´s a bunch of jokers willing to shell out two or three or five hun, or in one case on this board 14 hun, for an hour or less and you´re all nervous and scared that - gosh! - you might offend the service provider by treating her as if she's for sale. NEWS FLASH! She is!

Not once have I been nervous or scared that I might offend an sp. This probably has much to do with the fact that I've only seen SPs that I actually want to see thus have never viewed them as less than any other woman. The only difference being that sps are always available and know very well why I'm there. It's convenient for me, but not a power trip for me.

She doesn't somehow deserve less respect due to the fact that she's put a financial condition on her availablity. Most women do. SPs just do so openly.

But ya know...if you wanna believe that these posts that float the idea of flying an SP first class to Vegas for a weekend with $3 grand in spending money, are written by ´men´, then go right ahead. A fool and his money are lucky to get together in the first place.

I wasn't aware that the fairy tale posts were even in question.

Actually I think any review that mentions pricing is suspect. The prices always seem to be overinflated...

Right. To certain pooners it'll ALWAYS seem to be overinflated. I'm not about to spend large on time spent with a pro when I don't have to, but the posters who are always upset with pricing aren't exactly going to be any SPs dream client and are always going to recieve less enthusiastic service because of it.

Giving an SP what she asks (and if she's an SP that you actually want to see, that shouldn't be a problem) without expecting to own her while she's with you results in much better service. Afterall, you bought her time, not her entire being. It's up to her what bells and whistles she wants to throw into a session. Don't be surprised that treating an individual poorly results in like treatment as response.

It never ceases to amaze me how pooners seem surprised that after haggling over session fees and rattling off a list of demands, service seems lacking.

I've read posts from pooners who see high volume providers and then post that it's disgusting that this sp probably "sucks at least 15 dicks a day" (they knew this going in, no?) and didn't give them the high standard of service that they excpect. If you want a decent time, see someone that you actually WANT to see. This makes it a lot easier to treat them well and thus be treated well in return. Seeing a woman whose business practices clearly disgust you in the hopes of getting high return on the investment isn't going to pay off. Whether or not she sucks 15 cocks a day,she's human. She has intuition and isn't going to put on a great performance for someone who views her as a hole that he owns for an hour. If you want any sort of respect, you have to give a little. Seeing a provider that you couldn't possibly respect or view as a fellow human is never going to result in a great time had by all.

 

[wolverine]

If SPs happen to enjoy their time with me (and from what I've heard on the grapevine, they do), it's because I approach the sessions the same way as going out on a date. Only difference is that there's no wine-and-dine, no chick movie, no hand-in-hand stroll through the park - we're skipping all that noise and getting right to the good stuff!

Before I go out on any date (either with an SP or otherwise), I shave, trim my pubes, shower, wash my ass until it's clean enough to eat from, brush my teeth, gargle with mouthwash, cut my nails, dab on some good cologne, polish my shoes, and wear my nicest clean clothes. And on special occasion, I'll even bring a box of Callebeut or a bottle of bubbly or something. If I'm going to one of E-town's finer MPs then I'll use their shower, paying particular attention to cleaning the "naughty bits" and gargling.

And just as being out on a real date, I want the SP I'm with to enjoy her time with me as much as I'm enjoying my time with her. I'm not there to reaffirm my masculinity by establishing my Alpha Male dominance over her. While it is essential that the SP is a fantastic lay in the sack, I would also like her to have a conversation with me, and share with me her best personality traits: respect, sweetness, sophistication and class tempered with down-to-earth approachability, sense of humor, intelligence, opinions, favorite movies/food/music/etc, ambitions, dreams, etc.

So what I'm trying to say, guys, is that if you treat the SP as a girlfriend instead of a rented sperm receptacle for you to use and abuse, then chances are that she will reciprocate in kind. And who knows, with that attitude in mind, one or two of you may even get real dates!

BTW, in many SP circles, we pooners are referred to as "dates". Coincidence?

 

[Bobo The Rabbit]

"No, what you´re saying is we´re all unbathed, unappreciative, ungentlemanly yahoos from the ape hills of Surrey"
Does that sound racist to anyone besides me?
I wasent aware people could get the internet in trailor parks these days, I guess it really is the year 2005.

 

[rockyy]

So being hygenic and not haggling over dough means you won't get 'less enthusiastic service'?

whoopee ...

Look, big spenders who scrub where the sun don´t shine will get respect, sure, and a certain base line of service. But beyond that? Nope.

You think a woman does cartwheels of joy because you took a bath? Personal hygiene and your wallet will get you in the door and a seat at the table. Nothing more.

Lemme tell you something about women, guys: They're all different. Some of them respond to overwhelming generosity; others hate a fool who is easily parted from his money; some like a guy who knows exactly what he wants and insists on getting it; others hate them; some like the smell of fresh male sweat with a hint of Faberge, some don´t; some like clever conversation, others just wish you´d shut the hell up and let her do the talking.

If you want premium service, you´ll need to figure out from the first phone call what exactly her cup of tea is. And in most cases its purely academic because a real pro will never, ever think of you as a date any more than she would think of going out with her gynocologist.

It´s why I like the newbies. Heh..

Not once have I been nervous or scared that I might offend an sp. This probably has much to do with the fact that I've only seen SPs that I actually want to see thus have never viewed them as less than any other woman. The only difference being that sps are always available and know very well why I'm there. It's convenient for me, but not a power trip for me.

She doesn't somehow deserve less respect due to the fact that she's put a financial condition on her availablity. Most women do. SPs just do so openly.



I wasn't aware that the fairy tale posts were even in question.



Right. To certain pooners it'll ALWAYS seem to be overinflated. I'm not about to spend large on time spent with a pro when I don't have to, but the posters who are always upset with pricing aren't exactly going to be any SPs dream client and are always going to recieve less enthusiastic service because of it.

Giving an SP what she asks (and if she's an SP that you actually want to see, that shouldn't be a problem) without expecting to own her while she's with you results in much better service. Afterall, you bought her time, not her entire being. It's up to her what bells and whistles she wants to throw into a session. Don't be surprised that treating an individual poorly results in like treatment as response.

It never ceases to amaze me how pooners seem surprised that after haggling over session fees and rattling off a list of demands, service seems lacking.

I've read posts from pooners who see high volume providers and then post that it's disgusting that this sp probably "sucks at least 15 dicks a day" (they knew this going in, no?) and didn't give them the high standard of service that they excpect. If you want a decent time, see someone that you actually WANT to see. This makes it a lot easier to treat them well and thus be treated well in return. Seeing a woman whose business practices clearly disgust you in the hopes of getting high return on the investment isn't going to pay off. Whether or not she sucks 15 cocks a day,she's human. She has intuition and isn't going to put on a great performance for someone who views her as a hole that he owns for an hour. If you want any sort of respect, you have to give a little. Seeing a provider that you couldn't possibly respect or view as a fellow human is never going to result in a great time had by all.

 

[Avery]

Can't speak for anyone else but when I have a lady visit I make damn sure I'm showered, teeth brushed, mouth washed, shaved, deodorant, the whole nine yards. It's only common sense.

Most in-call ladies have everything you need to clean yourself up and I have used their facilities on occassion. I know how rank I can smell at times and I wouldn't inflict that on anyone.

Maybe I'm wired wrong- but it seems to me the LEAST I can do is be clean.

Absolutely right on! It's a total no-brainer. It's not only common courtesy; your chances of a great session increase greatly if the lady isn't trying to not to breathe and/or gag. It's not a guarantee, but you're far more likely to be on the right side of YMMV if you're squeaky clean.

On the other hand, I can think of at least one local lady (recently turned indie) who needs to learn that, if she takes a pre-session whizz and/or dump, just wiping with toilet paper doesn't cut it. She needs to wash her nether regions thoroughly with soap and water. You can imagine what DATY would be like (EEWWWWW!!); also doggie? Can you say boner-killer?