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Drjohn

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no, the politicians are the biggest problem

they help pick the mp that becomes/stays as PM

the PM picks the judges for the supreme court/appoints them

and finally the MPs, house of commons is

supposed to make the fucking laws, not the supreme court

and if they strike something down, the MPs need to fight back and rewrite the law

and finally stop picking fucking moronic fucks for the supreme court in the first place

who think it's their job to make laws and make shit up to justify their delusions of reality
It looks like Trudeau and his clown car government are trying to buy your vote for $250 dollars and a two month GST break on a few items.

Probably the most blatant and cynical attempt at vote buying in Canadian history.

You can smell the stink of desperation on Trudeau.

Trying to buy your vote with your money.

Pathetic.
 

angry anderson

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It looks like Trudeau and his clown car government are trying to buy your vote for $250 dollars and a two month GST break on a few items.

Probably the most blatant and cynical attempt at vote buying in Canadian history.

You can smell the stink of desperation on Trudeau.

Trying to buy your vote with your money.

Pathetic.
Him and that fucking cunt Freeland. What a couple of cunts.

 

PuntMeister

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Him and that fucking cunt Freeland. What a couple of cunts.

This is quite an inspired use of ‘Cunt’. The singular followed by the pluraral worked for me.

I too look forward to seeing Cunty McCuntface and his Cuntourage all banished to Cunt country where they can Cunt their massive Cunty McPenisPensions for the rest of their Cunt lives.
 
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angry anderson

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This is quite an inspired use of ‘Cunt’. The singular followed by the pluraral worked for me.

I too look forward to seeing Cunty McCuntface and his Cuntourage all banished to Cunt country where they can Cunt their massive Cunty McPenisPensions for the rest of their Cunt lives.
Blame my upbringing.
I want to see Trudeau and Freeland debate these two.

 

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no, the politicians are the biggest problem

they help pick the mp that becomes/stays as PM

the PM picks the judges for the supreme court/appoints them

and finally the MPs, house of commons is

supposed to make the fucking laws, not the supreme court

and if they strike something down, the MPs need to fight back and rewrite the law

and finally stop picking fucking moronic fucks for the supreme court in the first place

who think it's their job to make laws and make shit up to justify their delusions of reality
There is a difference between a threat and a problem. A MP can be voted out of office. A judgement by the supreme court is permanent. Therefore any decisions the supreme court makes is a potential threat for Canadians now and in the future (due to judges political stances). Also note the supreme court numbers and what province they are from. 1/3 are from Quebec. There should be 1 from each province and territory.

Also the PM is not picked by MPs, they are elected a leader of a party by fellow party members not MPs. If their party wins a majority vote in an election, then the leader becomes the PM....

The problem is we have a constitution and the supreme court interprets the Canadian Charter of Rights in their own way (kind of like that US supreme court). There was a recent (2 months ago or so) article by the Globe and mail?? on what should of been an open/shut case, but the supreme court went the other way by changing/harping on a word not in the charter of rights.. So they are picking and choosing the words to the charter of rights... That is a threat, not a problem...

Pls note the supreme court is made up of lawyers/judges. MPs are not lawyers.

I agree they should put responsible guy/gals on the supreme court, but politics are always going to play part in choosing judges for the supreme court.
 
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yeah, 2 million people a week disagree with you

that's the number of people who can't afford to feed themselves or their kids

we've had a "light" touch for 9 years

it's time for the adults in the room to act/speak up
Sayonara … May the blunt force trauma be with you!
 

LLLurkJ2

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There is a difference between a threat and a problem. A MP can be voted out of office. A judgement by the supreme court is permanent. Therefore any decisions the supreme court makes is a potential threat for Canadians now and in the future (due to judges political stances). Also note the supreme court numbers and what province they are from. 1/3 are from Quebec. There should be 1 from each province and territory.

Also the PM is not picked by MPs, they are elected a leader of a party by fellow party members not MPs. If their party wins a majority vote in an election, then the leader becomes the PM....

The problem is we have a constitution and the supreme court interprets the Canadian Charter of Rights in their own way (kind of like that US supreme court). There was a recent (2 months ago or so) article by the Globe and mail?? on what should of been an open/shut case, but the supreme court went the other way by changing/harping on a word not in the charter of rights.. So they are picking and choosing the words to the charter of rights... That is a threat, not a problem...

Pls note the supreme court is made up of lawyers/judges. MPs are not lawyers.

I agree they should put responsible guy/gals on the supreme court, but politics are always going to play part in choosing judges for the supreme court.
This is vague hearsay. What was the case in question?

Unfortuneatly with politics you will never find anyone to elect or put on the SC or make a senator that is beyond accusations of bias. If their rulings/voting don't match ones preferences thats one thing, but using hyperbole to call them a threat is just fear mongering IMHO, and there is far to much of that going on.

Your point about the number of QC judges relative to population size is valid, though it should be more like 40% ON and 20% QC 1 for BC 1 for AB, and the Maritimes and other provinces should share one based on *current* pop distrib. But im sure someone would object using ' tyrany of the majority'. Also this stuff was all worked out a bit after the October crisis, so i think theres some anti-reveloutionary concessions thrown in to the mix given the times.
 

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A judgement by the supreme court is permanent.
no, it's not

they don't make the laws, the laws can be changed

https://www.lawnow.org/viewpoint-the-supreme-court-of-canada-changes-its-mind/

it's all based on "opinion" of the simpletons that the PM picks and how long they stay on the court

that's the problem, they shouldn't be making shit up, they should follow the laws, constitution, which they're not doing like the norm used to be

just like in the U.S. where the cons have changed the norms and become activists from the other side of the spectrum

where the politicians have abdicated their powers and quit acting like adults
 

overdone

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Sayonara … May the blunt force trauma be with you!

yeah, humour, here's some for you

the Turd has made people soooo fucking poor they can't afford to feed their children

statscan says so, well the Turd says so

so he's going to borrow more money, have the Provinces, like the moron Ford do it too, cause they're broke too

to feed kids at school, instead of having parents do it, by not raping them and making their lives worse daily with their stupid ideas

so funny, this thread needed more comedy
 

Cock Throppled

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This latest stunt by Trudeau makes me angry. It is such a cynical, calculated and downright creepy attempt to buy favour, and will accomplish nothing in the way of real help for people or save his ass in the next election. In fact, I hope ity backfires big time, and it actually costs the Liberals votes.
 
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thevalleydude

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This latest stunt by Trudeau makes me angry. It is such a cynical, calculated and downright creepy attempt to buy favour, and will accomplish nothing in the way of real help for people or save his ass in the next election. In fact, I hope ity backfires big time, and it actually costs the Liberals votes.
You mean the awkward dancing at the Taylor Swift concert while a riot ensued in downtown Montreal?

https://thepostmillennial.com/montr...eau-dances-up-a-storm-at-taylor-swift-concert


LOL @ the headline...Dances Up a Storm
 
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rlock

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The biggest threat to Canadian politics is the Supreme Court and its decisions.
Aboriginal land claims will be the most important, with the most long lasting consequences for current and future citizens of Canada.
Canadian Taxpayers will be on the hook for Trillions of dollars (that like over 100 times every Canadian budget since confederation), not to mention the loss of natural resources control from the provincial government to individual tribes in Canada. Already Aboriginals are the 3rd arm of government as Provincial and Federal governments give over control in mining and transportations projects and environmental assessments.
Aboriginals should be just like every other Canadian;, they can pay land taxes and income taxes.
The biggest thing people have to think about is Canada a Windsor possession or is Canada is a representation of all its citizens.
Indeed, the courts have a lot to answer for, and are completely out of touch with what the public thinks justice is.
That's not a left or right complaint, and I do not think they are biased one way or the other as some claim - but one clear tendency is they always are is in favour of the arbitrary power of the courts, and pro-litigation (supporting the lucrative legal industry).

The worst thing Canada could do is try to be like that dumpster fire republic to the south of us, or court matters or anything else.

We should stay a monarchy; for all the shallow gripes about it, they are all based on a false image of what it is. Even things like blaming "the crown" for indigenous abuses of the past is not even realistic. All those abuses were authored by elected members of parliaments and legislatures, and if you think a republic would not do the same, most have done even worse than that. So the monarchy is not the problem; if anything it helps reaffirm the principle of hereditary chiefs (because they are ours) as separate from the political system.
(Plus, courts say "The Crown versus ___" like in the US says "the people versus ___",; they do not mean that literally, it's just a phrase meaning the lawful legal authority, and there is always one of those.)

it is the electoral system in Canada that is a fucking disgrace, lacking proper representation, destroying free choice and handing absolute power to a minority of actual support. And our Senate is not even elected at all, so they will never be seen as legitimate until that changes.

To me, that is the biggest thing, aiming at the true cause of our problems, instead of fixating on media gimmicks spawned from systems that are even worse.
 
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rlock

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no, the politicians are the biggest problem

they help pick the mp that becomes/stays as PM

the PM picks the judges for the supreme court/appoints them

and finally the MPs, house of commons is

supposed to make the fucking laws, not the supreme court

and if they strike something down, the MPs need to fight back and rewrite the law

and finally stop picking fucking moronic fucks for the supreme court in the first place

who think it's their job to make laws and make shit up to justify their delusions of reality

The parliamentary system is superior to a presidential one.
If you want to curse at any PM (now or previously), the culprit is how presidential the Prime Minister's Office (and party leader position) has become.

Parliamentary tradition, if they actually followed it, could have the caucus bring down an unpopular or dysfunctional leader in the blink of an eye.

But now, the MPs are the ones who get punished if they go off-message or exercise any independence in representing their constituents; the attitude that "the leader is the party" comes straight from the habit of presidential not parliamentary politics.
That is for opposition parties too, not just the party in power. (Witness the recent dust-up where Polly ordered his MPs not to let citizens know how to access certain government benefits because he didn't want to legitimize anything that might make the government look positive.)

The party leaders can now withhold the signing of nomination papers for local candidates, so nobody in caucus wants to cross them because if they lose that party brand, there's a good chance they lose their career along with it. So piece by piece most of the parties have stopped having legitimate contests to see who candidates will be, then stopped allowing MPs to be heard (unless acting as sock puppets for the leader's daily talking points), and now even most cabinet ministers (and shadow ministers) get stuffed into a closet, because if they start being seen as good at their job they are given, they might steal the spotlight within the party, away from the PM/leader. That means that if the MPs and cabinet ministers are increasingly meaningless, more power goes to the slick unelected advisors in the PMO or leader's office.

That has been a huge problem with Trudeau's time as PM, as it was for Harper before him. Cabinet members (who are elected) losing battles with unelected PMO insiders & their cronies, then getting demoted or exiled for it; MPs who seem more and more mindless, because you never heard anything about them unless some scandal breaks out. And that means elections fought basically as contest of just one leader versus another - something which the media encourages because they like to dumb everything down to "the leader is the party".

The courts, you are right, have forgotten that parliament makes the laws, not them. They are just there to interpret it, not create new policies that never were legislated, or consented to by the public in any other way.
I am 100% for restoring parliamentary supremacy, and 100% for restoring parliamentary rules of government (ending "presidential" style PM's and party leaders).

We'll never agree on the party politics, but if the Liberal party were to stick Trudeau's head into the caucus guillotine, that wouldn't just be their best move politically, but would also strike a blow for restoring those wise old parliamentary traditions that actually worked better than whatever--the-fuck this is.
 

rlock

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It looks like Trudeau and his clown car government are trying to buy your vote for $250 dollars and a two month GST break on a few items.

Probably the most blatant and cynical attempt at vote buying in Canadian history.

You can smell the stink of desperation on Trudeau.

Trying to buy your vote with your money.

Pathetic.

It is a pretty idiotic scheme, the 2 month GST changes especially. (It will take merchants probably 2 months to adjust their payment systems correctly, FFS.)

I mean it is not that different than Ford basing his whole government on cheap beer; yeah everyone loves getting more money or a slightly smaller bill, but I do not know anyone who will see any tangible benefit when it is all done.

Want to benefit Canadian retail merchants? Drop the daily cross-border purchase limit to $100, to encourage more Christmas shopping inside Canada. (For sure do it if Trump tries to fuck us with a 10% tariff on our exports.)

All those new programs are not going to be funded on magic beans. Even if they ultimately make life for average Canadians more affordable, they need to be funded.

Nobody asked for this, and I suspect it is designed to make Pollywanker do something in parliament that makes him look like he is against making life easier for ordinary people.
Well, even if true, creating very thin some gotcha moment in parliament is not worth something this complicated.
 

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I am happy it doesn't change anything in this hobby. I am happy that SP's don't charge GST, to best of my knowledge anyway. Not that I won't pay it, if they did, that is.
 

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