more russians getting their ass kicked.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...oteurs-gunned-down.html#v-1476432445607099411
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Ukraine is now at war with Russia - official and only Ukraine Thread
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On 8 May 1945, Victory in Europe Day, Katukov attended victory celebrations with American general George S. Patton, and he offered him a toast. Patton had Katukov’s translator tell him that he would not drink with him or any other “Russian son-of-a-bitch”.
Not sure if the movie was accurate but Patton followed up with “I’m a son of a bitch too”. Then they all proceeded to get very drunk.
The real issue at play here are the vast gas reserves recently discovered in ukraine that would threaten Russia's cash cow. Many of those reserves are in Crimea and Donbas, and the pipelines that Russia is currently using, run through Ukraine. Who would the EU rather buy gas from? More often than not, it's always about money.
This video lays out the factors pretty well.
I just waiting to see who puts up a site for donations for the assassination of Putin and his Oligarchs. I pretty sure it will now go up into the hundreds of millions. Put their faces on a deck of cards like the Iraq Invasion. Even though that would be illegal in any western country to start such a fund. Thousands of poor people every where will take up the challenge to bag their limit of rich thieves and claim their cash reward.
Of course what is happening right now is lots of young men and women from throughout the world, are making their way to Ukraine right now, in order to fight against tyranny. I hope they remember to bring a video camera, just incase they bag a card member....
Be kind of funny to see stockpiles of arms and high tech rockets that gets stolen in western Europe, which will be smuggled across the borders into Ukraine....
I predict the world will come into a shortage of sniper rifles with alot of Russian families getting "And a letter was sent!".
As long as food and ammunition and weapon supplies keep coming in, there will be alot of Russians going home in body bags to their mothers...
Kinda sad really.
Of course what is happening right now is lots of young men and women from throughout the world, are making their way to Ukraine right now, in order to fight against tyranny. I hope they remember to bring a video camera, just incase they bag a card member....
Be kind of funny to see stockpiles of arms and high tech rockets that gets stolen in western Europe, which will be smuggled across the borders into Ukraine....
I predict the world will come into a shortage of sniper rifles with alot of Russian families getting "And a letter was sent!".
As long as food and ammunition and weapon supplies keep coming in, there will be alot of Russians going home in body bags to their mothers...
Kinda sad really.
"I have no particular desire to understand them except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them... the Russian has no regard for human life and they are all out sons-of-bitches, barbarians, and chronic drunks."
George S Patton
George S Patton
Patton spoke out agout the Russians right off the bat.
Many American and British soldiers were horrified by their savagery.
My dad was in Berlin til 1946 and said most Russians were illiterate barbarians.
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Some Ukrainians are allowing captured Russkies to phone their parents. The best way to counter TASS and Putin’s lies!
As someone with family around London UK I can say many would be fine with hunting down oligarchs. They are hated. They have absolutely no regard for laws and no decency.
But we have to keep in mind that the Russians had lost through German savagery over 27 millions people due to fighting and the killing of civilians (almost half the death toll of WWll without counting illness and malnutrition). The war on the eastern front has had the reputation to have been more extreme than the western front. It doesn't excuse their behaviour at the time but explains it to a certain extent.
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Yep, hard to argue (especially when looking at it from a Russian perspective). LOTS written about Putin and his anger/shame when USSR dissolved, feeling shorted and shamed by Obama (less so by W Bush but not a lot less). Russia has been playing the long game and,to be honest, they’re winning it for now. Getting what they want and knowing there won’t be direct intervention (as to what the West is doing, I’m pretty sure weapons have been provided already, not sure about this week…)
Russia also isn’t a bunch of idiots - they would have predicted the impending sanctions and have SOME plans for that. If not, then Putin will have greatly surprised me with that level of incompetence. Always possible they overestimate their worth in the international market IRT energy but for now, it’s holding true (if they were a little smarter, they would have invaded in Dec so Europe would be even more reluctant to cut off natural gas…)
I’m not a believer in regime changes due to sanctions. How often has that worked? (vs NOT working?). DPRK, Cuba, Iran… loads more I’m sure. Sanctions didn’t lead to regime changes there (I think Cuba opened up on its own and accelerated when Castro died, correct?). Putin and his team have a pretty iron grip for now, it seems. They kill or put away nearly any popular dissident without repercussions. I think they’d crush the shit out of any major protest just like China did in Tianemen Square.
Fuck that noise.
Google Ukrainian Holomodor.
Russia has a habit of slaughtering Ukrainians. This is just the latest.
I will never dismiss what the Russian leaders have done in the past centuries to Ukraine, what Stalin has done and what they are doing right now . Putin is a thug that would deserve to be hung for all is done since been brought up to take over and protect Yeltsin in his retirement . Putin and his gang have reneged on a treaty signed by Russia of their own free will in the 90s not even 30 years ago.
But I don't want to believe that all Russians are war criminals as I know that the average Russian has been fed lies for months and years by controlled media in Russia. Nonetheless I hope that the Russian army pays dearly for the unlawful invasion.
Ukraine should have been allowed to join NATO back in 08 when they first applied and none of this sh..t would be happening. The US and the few European countries that put that on the back burner for that long are to blame in my book . A lot of people have blood on their hands right now for their inaction in the last two decades.
And Stalin killed around 20 million plus of his own people; in his purges to keep controll of the peoples of Russia. Not to mention how many people disappeared through the KGB. Its not the Russian people as a whole, but the ones in power that keep perpetuating the enslavement of people through misinformation and brutal tactics of suppression.
Not a twitter guy myself so this has been passed on from a friend.
Sound on!
Sound on!
Lavrov is as big an asshole as Putin.
Negotiations are a sham to buy time for Russians to resupply. Putin couldn’t give a fuck how many conscripts die. His pride and position are at stake and he cannot back down.
He fired his popular defence minister Gerasimov and is getting incredibly harsh criticism from former generals.
The association of retired officers called for his resignation last month. They argue that even if the annexation of Ukraine is successful it will make Russia a pariah- which it has. When Viktor Orban says you are going too far, you really fucked up.
I hope for a coup.
Negotiations are a sham to buy time for Russians to resupply. Putin couldn’t give a fuck how many conscripts die. His pride and position are at stake and he cannot back down.
He fired his popular defence minister Gerasimov and is getting incredibly harsh criticism from former generals.
The association of retired officers called for his resignation last month. They argue that even if the annexation of Ukraine is successful it will make Russia a pariah- which it has. When Viktor Orban says you are going too far, you really fucked up.
I hope for a coup.
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Agreed on all accounts.
Putin has backed himself into a corner with the vast majority of the world against him.
(And I for one am amazed at how fast the EU applied sanctions - I can never recall them moving that fast ever)
The Ruble continues to drop and I read that this morning their central banking system pumped up the rate to 20% (from over 9%).
Their financial taps are turned off.
Air space is being restricted which will mean in short order Russian imports will slow.
The Russian propaganda TV is being blocked around the world, google is banning as many Russian ads as they can, hell even Zuck has started filtering their shit.
Many analysts are saying Putin is mentally ill.
A coup may be the only way out ...
And I for one love the rallying cry
"Glory to Ukraine"
Russia's stock market was closed Monday to avoid a total collapse. The ruble is the lowest it's ever been, massive lineups at banks and they are running out of foreign currency as everyone with a brain tries to get hard currency instead of rubles under their mattress. Peace talks start, with Russia taking them so seriously as to send their Minister of Culture instead of anyone from Defense or Foreign Affairs.
John Oliver did a great takedown of Putin this weekend. Well worth a look.
Meanwhile thousands of Russians are arrested for demonstrating against the war, and tens of thousands more keep demonstrating and don't care. Facebook id'ed and stopped 2 major disinformation groups targeting the Ukraine and Russia over the weekend. They are publishing ridiculous nonsense, like Ukrainian Military killing children and the Russian patriots trying to stop them etc. It's absolutely insane. Rather than dial down the rhetoric, Putin decides to order the nuclear forces to high alert, because you know, a nuke is the best answer he's got, apparently.
There's a group of of them over there, led by Putin, who are in dire need of a firing squad. A coup would be a miracle at this point.
John Oliver did a great takedown of Putin this weekend. Well worth a look.
Meanwhile thousands of Russians are arrested for demonstrating against the war, and tens of thousands more keep demonstrating and don't care. Facebook id'ed and stopped 2 major disinformation groups targeting the Ukraine and Russia over the weekend. They are publishing ridiculous nonsense, like Ukrainian Military killing children and the Russian patriots trying to stop them etc. It's absolutely insane. Rather than dial down the rhetoric, Putin decides to order the nuclear forces to high alert, because you know, a nuke is the best answer he's got, apparently.
There's a group of of them over there, led by Putin, who are in dire need of a firing squad. A coup would be a miracle at this point.
Crazy how I heard the same thing. It’s been pretty evident that our media is fake so we need to be careful what we see now. Like, all of a sudden they’re right?!
