Trump for President. Who's hopping on the bandwagon? Who's digging a bunker?

luvsdaty

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I see Trump as the Rob Ford of America. Although apparently Ford did do right by Toronto as mayor, he was basically too much too soon. Just a bafoon.
Trump? All I see is a racist, mysogonist, relatively dumb snake oil salesman,a used car salesman, basically a bully who pressures and humiliates weak minded people into bending to his will.
And down right creepy as fuck, his references to dating his daughter and calling her a piece of ass are just gross.And his billion dollar empire? Probably just a house of cards .Everything the guy dips his finger in seems to go bankrupt.
More power to the guy for finding so many sheep willing to invest in his name though.
 
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huggzy

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I see Trump as the Rob Ford of America. Although apparently Ford did do right by Toronto as mayor, he was basically too much too soon. Just a bafoon.
Trump? All I see is a racist, mysogonist, relatively dumb snake oil salesman,a used car salesman, basically a bully who pressures and humiliates weak minded people into bending to his will.
And down right creepy as fuck, his references to dating his daughter and calling her a piece of ass are just gross.And his billion dollar empire? Probably just a house of cards .Everything the guy dips his finger in seems to go bankrupt.
More power to the guy for finding so many sheep willing to invest in his name though.
You see, this is how guys like you twist things around.

Rob Ford was a crack smoking professional politician who clearly had ties to the underworld both professionally and socially. The two can't even compare yet you want to parallel the two?!?!

You're suggesting that Trump is a "bully who pressures and humiliates weak minded people into bending to his will"?!?!?! Since when does that not describe every single person who aspires to take political office?!?!?

And the references to his daughter may come across as creepy without context but you damn well know that all he was trying to do was be funny during interviews so stop blowing it out of proportion. Guys like you like to parallel these comments as if its worse than Bill being a predator over an intern. Or what about Gennifer Flowers. Or Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones or Kathleen Wiley? I see that you like to gloss over all these "creepy" moments in the Clinton regime but glom onto a comment that was made in public during a television program with his daughter sitting right next to him as if its even comparable.

And I'm not going to defend Trump's business practices, because he's obviously lost some and won some. But he uses the rules of the game that the government put into place. However if you want to talk about a bankruptcy, how about the trillions of dollars in debt that the US Government finds itself in while the ruling elite keep abusing the system for their own monetary gains??? And you are happy to just keep this rolling along...talking about sheep. Your hypocrisy is nauseating.
 
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luvsdaty

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You see, this is how guys like you twist things around.

Rob Ford was a crack smoking professional politician who clearly had ties to the underworld both professionally and socially. The two can't even compare yet you want to parallel the two?!??

You're suggesting that Trump is a "bully who pressures and humiliates weak minded people into bending to his will"?!?!?! Since when does that not describe every single person who aspires to take political office?!?!?

And the references to his daughter may come across as creepy without context but you damn well know that all he was trying to do was be funny during interviews so stop blowing it out of proportion. Guys like you like to parallel these comments as if its worse than Bill being a predator over an intern. Or what about Gennifer Flowers. Or Juanita Broaddrick, Paula Jones or Kathleen Wiley? I see that you like to gloss over all these "creepy" moments in the Clinton regime but glom onto a comment that was made in public during a television program with his daughter sitting right next to him as if its even comparable.

And I'm not going to defend Trump's business practices, because he's obviously lost some and won some. But he uses the rules of the game that the government put into place. However if you want to talk about a bankruptcy, how about the trillions of dollars in debt that the US Government finds itself in while the ruling elite keep abusing the system for their own monetary gains??? And you are happy to just keep this rolling along...talking about sheep. Your hypocrisy is nauseating.
You assume too much young Padewon. I'm neither a Trump or a Clinton supporter. They're both crooks, one chose politics, the other chose real estate (well he was born into it ) both crooks one with spots, the other with stripes.
I mean come on they're both part of the 1% , I can see Trump declaring bankruptcy again if he loses this election so he doesn't have to pay the money he borrowed to fund his campaign.
 

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You assume too much young Padewon. I'm neither a Trump or a Clinton supporter. They're both crooks, one chose politics, the other chose real estate (well he was born into it ) both crooks one with spots, the other with stripes.
I mean come on they're both part of the 1% , I can see Trump declaring bankruptcy again if he loses this election so he doesn't have to pay the money he borrowed to fund his campaign.
I owe you an apology. I construed your comments as being that as an apologist of Hillary when they didn't necessarily have to be. Seeing that this isn't the case then much of what you said I can't disagree with then.

That said I don't think its fair to make these two equivalent. You call Trump a crook, but he's never been accused of fraud or the like so to call him a crook is a bit unfair. Yes, he's a misogynist, likely a racist, probably a homophobe, is a buffoon and certainly is part of the 1% who cares more about himself than the little people - no question there. That said all and all he does play the game by the rules laid out by the lawmakers and you can't necessarily fault him for that - at least criminally if not morally.

But he is not on the payroll of foreign governments who actively trounce human rights. And when Senator Clinton votes for a war on Iraq killing countless people when there was zero evidence of weapons of mass destruction she loses the benefit of my doubt when it is later determined that she and Bill are happily accepting hundreds of millions of dollars from the governments and kingdoms of the middle east. Sorry - the worst you can accuse the Donald of is being a womanizer who would happily travel with Bill on the "Lolita Express" - but that doesn't make him a crook, corrupt nor a murderer.


I'm sorry - one of them is just a greedy, whoring buffoon. The other is pure fucking evil.
 

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I see Trump as the Rob Ford of America. Although apparently Ford did do right by Toronto as mayor, he was basically too much too soon. Just a bafoon.
Trump? All I see is a racist, mysogonist, relatively dumb snake oil salesman,a used car salesman, basically a bully who pressures and humiliates weak minded people into bending to his will.
And down right creepy as fuck, his references to dating his daughter and calling her a piece of ass are just gross.And his billion dollar empire? Probably just a house of cards .Everything the guy dips his finger in seems to go bankrupt.
More power to the guy for finding so many sheep willing to invest in his name though.
More like the Berlusconi of America, but I see your point.
And his opponent is an American female Tony Blair. (Or perhaps Blair was always trying to be a second Hillary, LOL).

What I'd advise is to look at the larger problem. The ugliness of the 2016 campaign, the awful candidates, is just a natural evolution of what's been going on for many years already.
The US party system is like a hellhound with two heads (Democrat and Republican). Both bark with basically the same sound; both can bite and burn people - which head did what is irrelevant, since it's the same beast.
 

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My friend, you are so delusional.

I WANTED TO BELIEVE IN HILLARY. She has done nothing but prove to me she is a puppet.

Yeah...Hillary is worth $285,000 an appearance (yeah, the $225,000/appearance number I used previously was wrong because I looked it up). Pffffftttt. And apparently Chelsea Clinton is worth $65,000 per appearance too because she has so much to say. It is enablers like you who can't see the forest through the trees because that is what is so wrong with this whole system - it all needs to be banned. It is nothing other than an organized, institutionalized pay to play. I see you didn't even address the massive donations to the Clinton Foundation by all those countries I named that have such wonderful human rights records.


And you can stop blaming Comey for this whole email "scandal". He was put into an untenable position - he was damned if he released his statement now by Hillary supporters and he was damned if he released the statement later by Trump supporters. He was in a no-win situation.

But Comey made the correct and just choice because IF HILLARY DOESN'T DELETE 33,000 EMAILS THEN THIS WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN BEEN AN ISSUE, WOULD IT? Hell...if Hillary did as she was subpoenaed to do then she might have already been cleared by now if she is as innocent as she claims to be.

Her decision to not provide everything that the FBI ordered her to do may very well turn out to be the defining moment of her campaign. And if there is nothing in those emails then her decision to not provide them in her original submission was a terrible decision by her - but that decision also reflects on her honesty as a person and also reflects on her decision making abilities. It was a dishonest (some say illegal) and bad decision.

She really should get buried for this. But you keep believing, because I bet you've always voted Democrat and your party will have to win no matter what the candidate.

It is enablers like you who allow these broken systems to keep on going.
Let me ask you a question: How much is your favorite basketball player/football player/rock star/movie star paid for an appearance like that? Plenty. I will repeat, just because you don't like her does not make her any less of a high profile person. The people paying her for the speech were not the people listening to her, it was the ORGANIZERS. There is no pay to play. That is a bunch of right wing/left wing nonsense espoused by people who don't know how these things works.

Comey was not put in an untenable position. They have had this information for weeks, and only NOW are they conveniently looking at it. In fact, it was only today that they actually got a warrant to look at it, which means they have no clue what is there. You are also forgetting that Comey is a long time Republican who only gave up his registration when he became director. But he is still a Republican, he still sent this letter of his only to Republican members of congress. It is pretty clearly an attempt to sway the election on partisan grounds.

These emails are not Clinton's emails, they are Abedins. And she was apparently unaware that they were on Weiner's computer, which means that he most likely surreptitiously got hold of her e-mail password and set it up on his computer. My guess is so that he could keep tabs on what was going on with Clinton in order to use that information to further his own political career. I am pretty sure that is what is going to turn out to be the case, and is probably going to result in Weiner going to jail.

The deleted emails would have been private ones. She ran her personal emails through the same server, and the numbers involved are consistent with personal use. Remember - emails are recorded on both ends, so if there emails on the other end that were not on her server, it would be obvious that official e-mails had been deleted. Clearly no evidence of this has been found, so the probability that any official emails were deleted is low. The reason the Republicans want her private e-mails is so that they can fish about for private information that could be used against her politically. Such as her relationship with her husband and other functionaries in the party.

I am not a US citizen, but if I were my voting record would have been Bush Snr, Bush Snr, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, McCain, Romney in the previous elections. So, 4 Republicans and 3 Democrats, because IMO those were the best candidates in those election years. So I am not tied to a particular party. I would not vote for a right wing nut like Cruz, nor would I vote for a pie in the sky socialist like Bernie Sanders. And I definitely would not vote for a fascist like Trump. In this election cycle my preferred candidate was Bush, with Kasich or Biden as second choices. That said, I find the behavior of Comey outrageous, and attack on the integrity of the elections. If he is going to intrude at such a late stage like this he had better damned well have facts to support it, and that he apparently does not have. He is basically throwing a hand grenade into the election and claiming he doesn't know it is a hand grenade. He has to go.
 

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Exactly. And of course the "privileged elite" are the "only ones that know what they're talking about"...its because they're the only ones that benefit from what goes on in Washington and its because they're the only ones that have any influence. The only thing that could truly benefit the lower classes is a complete, wholesale change of the system and everyone knows it. And everyone wonders why the lower classes tune out - its because they know that they're voices aren't being heard anyways.

And I completely agree with your statement regarding the choice between a buffoon and criminal. If Trump actually managed to get in I would fully expect to see him make all sorts of stupid-ass racist, sexist, xenophobic and socially repugnant statements. But he wouldn't be allowed to do anything too stupid by the courts, the house or the senate. Its not like the President really has much power to make policy decisons anyways. His real power is in the veto, his ability to appoint judges into the court, and in his platform.

All these fear mongers like Tugela make it sound like Trump would have the country implode. The country only implodes if Congress allows it to implode.

But Trump would have the ear of the people and when he runs into all the bullshit that goes on behind the scenes I fully expect a guy like this to start exposing this shit and that's exactly what I want to see and that is the only reason I would support this douchebag. Don't think for one second that I support this guy for his foreign policy, economic policy or his social conscious. I don't think he even believes half of the shit that comes out of his mouth.
That is incorrect. The president has immense power. If Trump is elected he can do all sorts of damage without getting the approval of congress by using executive orders. He can invade countries. He can order assassinations. He can have people tortured. He can impose tariffs and regulations at will. He can spy on people. He can have them investigated by the IRS or Justice Department, and prosecuted. Trump has made it pretty clear that he is not going to be bound by the checks and balances of the system. Have you not listened to the guy? Do you think he is just joking?

This guy has the same sort of mentality as Chavez or Duterte. Those guys have a congress and courts supposedly keeping them in check as well. What happened with them running things?
 

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Let me ask you a question: How much is your favorite basketball player/football player/rock star/movie star paid for an appearance like that? Plenty. I will repeat, just because you don't like her does not make her any less of a high profile person. The people paying her for the speech were not the people listening to her, it was the ORGANIZERS. There is no pay to play. That is a bunch of right wing/left wing nonsense espoused by people who don't know how these things works.

Comey was not put in an untenable position. They have had this information for weeks, and only NOW are they conveniently looking at it. In fact, it was only today that they actually got a warrant to look at it, which means they have no clue what is there. You are also forgetting that Comey is a long time Republican who only gave up his registration when he became director. But he is still a Republican, he still sent this letter of his only to Republican members of congress. It is pretty clearly an attempt to sway the election on partisan grounds.

These emails are not Clinton's emails, they are Abedins. And she was apparently unaware that they were on Weiner's computer, which means that he most likely surreptitiously got hold of her e-mail password and set it up on his computer. My guess is so that he could keep tabs on what was going on with Clinton in order to use that information to further his own political career. I am pretty sure that is what is going to turn out to be the case, and is probably going to result in Weiner going to jail.

The deleted emails would have been private ones. She ran her personal emails through the same server, and the numbers involved are consistent with personal use. Remember - emails are recorded on both ends, so if there emails on the other end that were not on her server, it would be obvious that official e-mails had been deleted. Clearly no evidence of this has been found, so the probability that any official emails were deleted is low. The reason the Republicans want her private e-mails is so that they can fish about for private information that could be used against her politically. Such as her relationship with her husband and other functionaries in the party.

I am not a US citizen, but if I were my voting record would have been Bush Snr, Bush Snr, Clinton, Gore, Kerry, McCain, Romney in the previous elections. So, 4 Republicans and 3 Democrats, because IMO those were the best candidates in those election years. So I am not tied to a particular party. I would not vote for a right wing nut like Cruz, nor would I vote for a pie in the sky socialist like Bernie Sanders. And I definitely would not vote for a fascist like Trump. In this election cycle my preferred candidate was Bush, with Kasich or Biden as second choices. That said, I find the behavior of Comey outrageous, and attack on the integrity of the elections. If he is going to intrude at such a late stage like this he had better damned well have facts to support it, and that he apparently does not have. He is basically throwing a hand grenade into the election and claiming he doesn't know it is a hand grenade. He has to go.
You are choosing to be intentionally obtuse. That's ok. We get it. There are people that don't care.

I work for a construction general contractor as a project manager. If I receive a bottle of wine or a couple of tickets to the hockey game from a subcontractor, a consultant, an associate, a bank or whoever, what do you think I am supposed to do? Yeah...that's right. I am not allowed to keep it, and if I say nothing and the principles find out I would be fired on the spot. Without blinking. And I wouldn't even contest it because I know the rules and I understand how the game can be paid. Yeah...for even just a bottle of wine.

I worked with PM's and quantity surveyors who come from all over the world. They tell me stories like in Ireland or the UAE where they would receive packages in a plain wrapped box and were told not to open them until they get home. There were times that these boxes would have $10 or $20k or a set of car keys and a thank you note for all your hard work. There was no discussion had. There were no instructions and there were no expectations communicated. But they knew at some point there was going to be a contract tender and if they didn't pick the correct contractor that they were going to have to answer to someone. And yes, they thought about car bombs alot.

Tugela, the point that goes completely over your head (except that I don't think it is - I think you're arguing just because you don't want to lose) is that it is the ORGANIZERS who are paying for the influence, not the individual guests. The organizers couldn't give two shits about what these nimrods have to say to the guests attending and the Clintons couldn't give two shits about what the nobodies sitting in the dining room have to say - what the principles care about is that THEY, THE ORGANZERS - IE. THE ONE'S WRITING THE CHEQUES -have the ear of the politician. Is this really too hard for you to understand?

And of course Comey was put in an untenable situation - he was going to be fucked any way he went. And it makes no difference if he made his announcement now or two weeks ago - nothing changes and it makes no difference but of course he was going to need a little time to discuss this with his superiors and to the Justice Department to before making his decision. And clearly there was opposition and debate going back and forth so this decision clearly took some time. But he definitely needed to announce it before the election otherwise the appearance of impropriety on his part would look horrific considering that he already cleared Hillary despite the fact that she withheld and destroyed evidence.

She is the one at fault for the position she finds herself in now. If she turns over all emails this doesn't happen - she fucked herself. Comey may have been a long time Republican but he was APPOINTED BY OBAMA in his current position. So again, stop it with the red herrings. He is employed by Obama. Loretta Lynch, his superior who shut the initial investigation down after meeting with Bill Clinton at the airport, is employed by Obama. Just fucking stop it.

And stop saying that these emails are irrelevant because they are Abedin's. Of course they're relevant because Abedin was Hillary's top aide and turnover of her emails were part of the subpoena. There is speculation that she could be facing a prison term if it turns out that she should have turned these emails over and neglected to do so. And of course emails have "two sides" - but you can't know who the second side of that email belongs to if you don't have access to the original email, can you? That's the fucking point. But you can go ahead and keep ignoring the obvious.

And as we are now hearing the entire FBI organization is about to revolt against Comey for not launching an investigation against Clinton at the outset, and apparently he has a pile of resignations on his desk reaching up to the ceiling in his office. The backlash is so bad that no one in that organization - even those closest to him - are even speaking to him. People walking by him in the hallway won't even return a "hello" back to him, and apparently even his own wife is telling him he made the wrong decision not to prosecute. The speculation is that Comey reopened the investigation because he is being forced to right the wrong and these new emails were the excuse to do it.

She's going fucking down and anyone with half a brain can see it. This is as obvious as the Iraq war/weapons of mass destruction debate - anyone with any critical thinking at all could see what was going down then - but if all you cared about was to see that your guy wins his argument then you weren't capable of comprehending the reality that was staring at you right in your face. And the same thing is happening now

But then again I see that you supported both the Bushes so I won't count myself as being surprised by your view on things.
 

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That is incorrect. The president has immense power. If Trump is elected he can do all sorts of damage without getting the approval of congress by using executive orders. He can invade countries. He can order assassinations. He can have people tortured. He can impose tariffs and regulations at will. He can spy on people. He can have them investigated by the IRS or Justice Department, and prosecuted. Trump has made it pretty clear that he is not going to be bound by the checks and balances of the system. Have you not listened to the guy? Do you think he is just joking?

This guy has the same sort of mentality as Chavez or Duterte. Those guys have a congress and courts supposedly keeping them in check as well. What happened with them running things?
You see, here's the thing. The Clintons are not wonderful tradesmen, nor are they brilliant scientists who hold all sorts of patents, nor do they have any other special skills where they can create things and market them to the world. The only special skill that these people can peddle is influence - that's it. Without that they are nothing, and with that apparently they are worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

Donald Trump does not need to do this, and he is less likely to be influenced by the government of Saudi Arabia or the UAE because you know what - the Donald can earn his own money. Who the fuck knows - we could be wrong. But you know what I'm not wrong about is that the Clintons are fucking greedy, evil puppets. We know that as a fact and there is no denying it.
 

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You see, here's the thing. The Clintons are not wonderful tradesmen, nor are they brilliant scientists who hold all sorts of patents, nor do they have any other special skills where they can create things and market them to the world. The only special skill that these people can peddle is influence - that's it. Without that they are nothing, and with that apparently they are worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

Donald Trump does not need to do this, and he is less likely to be influenced by the government of Saudi Arabia or the UAE because you know what - the Donald can earn his own money. Who the fuck knows - we could be wrong. But you know what I'm not wrong about is that the Clintons are fucking greedy, evil puppets. We know that as a fact and there is no denying it.

.....and where they handed that skill or did they work for it ????? Also remember the Donald bragging how the best way to make money is to use other peoples money ?????
 

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This guy has the same sort of mentality as Chavez or Duterte. Those guys have a congress and courts supposedly keeping them in check as well. What happened with them running things?
Don't insult Chavez or Duterte - the only commonality they have with Trump is being male and loud, nothing else.
 

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.....and where they handed that skill or did they work for it ????? Also remember the donald bragging how the best way to make money is to use other peoples money ?????
omg!!! They collect this money in return for political favour. Are people really this dense and don't see this?!?!?
 

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omg!!! They collect this money in return for political favour. Are people really this dense and don't see this?!?!?
Right. What actual interest do these brutally anti woman anti gay regimes.... Saudis (25million) Qatar, UAE, Brunei( up to 5million) or Kuwait ( up to10million) have in any of the Clinton foundations proclaimed causes...HIV babies, wealth inequity, global womens equality, LGBT rights? These donations are done for political favor and were given while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State. And this from an article by nonprofitquarterly.org which is sort of a watchdog on "philanthropic" organizations:

"A second stream of the critique has been revelations of the Clinton Foundation’s relationships with a number of banks that have run afoul of U.S. government regulators. Alexandra Jaffe of CNN reported that the Clinton Foundation and its Clinton Global Initiative arm had struck partnership arrangements with a number of banks while these banks were fending off investigations or paying substantial fines. Jaffe listed a variety of “strategic partners” of CGI including Barclays (which had to pay $300m in fines for breaking sanctions against Iran, Cuba, and the Sudan, and another $450m for global interest rate rigging), Deutsche Bank (under investigation for potential Iran sanctions violations), HSBC (which paid $1.92b because it allowed drug cartels to launder money and because it did transactions for customers in Iran, Libya, Cuba, and the Sudan), and Goldman Sachs (which paid a $1.2b fine for mortgage lending infractions)."


There are also donations from Walmart, Coca Cola (with the soft drink tax on the horizon) and many other businesses that may need some government assistance in the near future. To portray the Clinton Foundation as existing as strictly a philanthropic organization which has no interest in returning favors with these donations which are in the millions from each donor is a large stretch....even for politicians. Sure they donate some of it to the charities they claim to support, but....how much of it is the question...and its certainly been a great way to find employment for Chelsea and her husband.

Brutal regimes, crooked banks, businesses with potential federal issues.....they make up a large proportion of the donors to this "charity"..

Oh and there is this.... a payoff for basically giving control over uranium resources to the Russians...

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/u...ssed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0
 
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The US party system is like a hellhound with two heads (Democrat and Republican). Both bark with basically the same sound; both can bite and burn people - which head did what is irrelevant, since it's the same beast.
Well that's the kind of insightful metaphoric banter I was hoping for.

Thanks dude.
 

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Go asteroid Go!
Go asteroid Go!

Nice one Unc.

Guess my bunker won't help much if asteroid wins. But at least we will go out with a bang!
 

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Washington Times: FBI probe of Clinton Foundation likely to yield indictments: report

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/2/clinton-foundation-fbi-probe-likely-yield-indictme/

"Fox News reported Wednesday night that the FBI’s Clinton Foundation probe has produced an “avalanche of evidence” likely to result in indictments.
Bret Baier, based on two sources, said in a tweet that “barring obstruction they’d likely continue 2 push to try for an indictment.”

Mr. Baier said the probe into pay-for-play charges at the Foundation by the Bureau’s White Collar Crime division has been going on for more than a year and has involved multiple interviews with numerous individuals.

“There is an avalanche of new information coming every day,” Mr. Baier said his sources had told him.

The sources also told Fox News that Mrs. Clinton’s private email server, which she used to handle classified information as secretary of state, had been breached by at least five hackers attached to foreign intelligence services."
 

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Justice Department official tipped off Clinton campaign about email probe

Oh...and in case the name Peter Kadzik doesn't ring a bell to you, know this. The Department of Justice had just appointed Mr. Kadzik to oversee the reopened Clinton email investigation on behalf of the DOJ. Wikileaks just uncovered the Clinton mole at the DOJ.


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/2/justice-department-official-tipped-off-hillary-cli/


"A top Justice Department official leaked information to the Clinton campaign about the legal case concerning Hillary Clinton’s secret email server, according to a new email released Wednesday by WikiLeaks that could further taint the administration’s claims of impartiality.

Assistant Attorney General Peter Kadzik sent a heads-up to Clinton campaign Chairman John Podesta in May 2015 letting him know the government was going to try to delay posting Mrs. Clinton’s secret emails until 2016.

In the message, sent from his private account rather than his government-issued account, he also warned of a looming House hearing where he expected a Justice Department official would face questions about Mrs. Clinton’s emails.

Mr. Kadzik becomes the latest administration official to face questions of conflicts of interest when it comes to Mrs. Clinton — complicating President Obama’s election-season pitch to voters.

Yet another WikiLeaks email released Wednesday showed the State Department was sharing information with the Clinton campaign before the first story broke about her secret email account. That email even appears to show the Clinton team advised the State Department on how to word its public statement to The New York Times, which was about to expose the email account and private server."
 
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You see, here's the thing. The Clintons are not wonderful tradesmen, nor are they brilliant scientists who hold all sorts of patents, nor do they have any other special skills where they can create things and market them to the world. The only special skill that these people can peddle is influence - that's it. Without that they are nothing, and with that apparently they are worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

Donald Trump does not need to do this, and he is less likely to be influenced by the government of Saudi Arabia or the UAE because you know what - the Donald can earn his own money. Who the fuck knows - we could be wrong. But you know what I'm not wrong about is that the Clintons are fucking greedy, evil puppets. We know that as a fact and there is no denying it.
Bill Clinton was a world leader and a historical figure. Hillary Clinton was a secretary of state, and another historical figure. Of course people are going to be interested in what they have to say! Are you being deliberately daft?

Is someone going to pay you $250k to give a speech? Probably not, but the reason for that is that you are nobody, and people will not pay to hear nobody speak. You think that you are on the same level as them, but you are not.

If you think I am talking nonsense, read this: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/USA-Up...arges-vets-group-100-000-for-speech.-Too-much

All those guys were no longer in office when they went on the speaking tour. Suggesting that those paying them would be "gaining influence" is nonsense - they are no longer in office dude, there is no "influence" to be bought. They get paid those fees because people want to hear the opinions and personal recollections of those who have been at the very pinnacle of power.

Just because you are ignorant of these things does not mean that they defy belief.

Btw, go to the bottom of that article - who was one of the highest paid speakers? None other than Donald Trump!!
 

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/2/clinton-foundation-fbi-probe-likely-yield-indictme/

"Fox News reported Wednesday night that the FBI’s Clinton Foundation probe has produced an “avalanche of evidence” likely to result in indictments.
Bret Baier, based on two sources, said in a tweet that “barring obstruction they’d likely continue 2 push to try for an indictment.”

Mr. Baier said the probe into pay-for-play charges at the Foundation by the Bureau’s White Collar Crime division has been going on for more than a year and has involved multiple interviews with numerous individuals.

“There is an avalanche of new information coming every day,” Mr. Baier said his sources had told him.

The sources also told Fox News that Mrs. Clinton’s private email server, which she used to handle classified information as secretary of state, had been breached by at least five hackers attached to foreign intelligence services."
Oh please. Fox news.
 
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