You have some serious issues you need to work out in therapy. Please feel free to take your leave of this and any other Escort review boards you may be a member of, you obviously do not like the women who participate in this industry and you certainly don't respect them. I find your comments rude and offensive.....Some Prostitutes and Massage Brothels are lowering their prices in response to the falling economy, and that makes sense if they want to keep the money rolling in. During these times everyone is being very careful with how they spend their money, and spending time with a Prostitute or sex worker is not a necessity. It is a "treat" of sorts. But look at this from the Prostitutes perspective. They may tell you that they "love" performing sexual favours for strangers all throughout the day, but this is simply not true unless it has some sort of mental illness. No Prostitute actually "wants" to be a Prostitute, that is utter madness! The only thing that makes it worthwhile is the money, so if it lowers its rate then it just becomes "so difficult" to do this, the incentive and motivation start to disappear. Prostitution is tough, only the truly greedy can pull it off. It's not the same as swinging a hammer for 8 hours a day or doing some of the thousands of other jobs that are out there - think about it, deep down are you "ashamed" of what you do, because Prostitutes are. Therefore they demand lots of money to compensate for this shame. Also they have to buy hair extensions, lots of perfume, lots of makeup, expensive clothing etc. to glamorize this type of activity to make it easier in their heads. In a way they live in their own la-la lands! They don't want to admit the truth - they are Prostitutes
Umm... to a certain Madame... Newsflash: The economy is tanking!
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I agree! People, men and women, do what they need to survive. Sometimes it's glamourous, most jobs (including the ones in this industry) are not.
I enjoy meeting people from all walks of life, and this is just another path.
Are you saying there is an apprenticeship for SP's whereby they serve for a period of time then are allowed to charge higher rates based on her proven reputation for service?
Misty this year is better than last year?
I know several SP's who ENTER the business at $250-$300 p.hr. (no prior experience as a so called "professional")
My point is that there are established pay scales in the marketplace based on education & type of occupation.
An SP complaining about NOT making 3 & 4 times the average man or womans income just seems ridiculous to me when they do not have the education nor the training that others have completed.
How much do I think it costs an escort to make $300phr. ? - Not much really.
I personally know several earning $200-$300phr who have no advertising, no separate incall, no extra clothing dedicated to the biz etc. Their adverts come from word of mouth or a post on CL.
They happen to be smart about the business & use it to provide an income & save and invest the money they are making because they know they will not be doing this forever.
So why do you think that spending ridiculous sums of money is a requirement to be an escort?
So now escorts are on the same level as professional athletes & movie stars???
News flash!! - athletes spend years developing their skills & it costs lots of money to get there.
Movie stars have to spend time in acting school or in the rare cases such as Cameron Diaz, they get lucky because of their looks & turn out to be good at acting.
Keep in mind FO that for every 1 "star" athlete or actor there are thousands who never get that lucky break & are relegated to the ranks of being a player but never a "winner".
It's luck of the draw sweet cheeks so if you wanna improve your odds when you gamble you need to hedge your bet with education & training.
Now from what I am inferring in your reply, you are insinuating that ALL escorts are deserving of the "Short shelf life = higher salaries" right of passage?
Is there no training, education or steps of advancement in the escort profession?
One other thing, I have had sessions with a few older gals in this business, one of them being the famous squirter "Red Hot Leanne" who had continued being an escort up to her late 50's before retiring & her only regret then was that she did not start younger & have a longer career in the biz.
Bullied?
BULLIED?
Have we met?
Are you insinuating that I am a threatening person?
That claim has been levied against me by much more savvy fems than you.
Those who have met me & there have been several in the last 6 months, will attest that I am remarkably congenial & polite.
Actually, that is not true FO, I have sat in my car & listened to many SP's tell me how they live a lifestyle & own property, cars etc. because they are making much more than those who have laboured to earn their degree.
I make an above average salary & have been told by some that "too bad I was not born a cute girl so I could make as much as I (they) do."
The attitude which I perceived was one that they were the REAL smart ones & those who wasted all the years of school just to earn one half to one fifth of what an escort makes are foolish.
In these trying economic times some may find that not having a traditionally acceptable skill set may be to their detriment.
How utterly naive!
Just to get a degree, especially a masters or PhD, requires an above average level of intelligence & work ethic.
This is not to say that after achieving their degree a person can not just rest on their laurels.
These days may prove to be more challenging than most escorts on all levels had anticipated. A strategy re-think may be in order for some.
Some escorts are not so presumptuous as to assume that all of the above are needed to be an SP.
But, as you have so aptly stated there are some who want everything up front & in all it's glory.
That shows the mentality behind such individuals...
some expect the riches & glamour without putting forth the requisite time & effort to earn it.
Some depend on obtaining their desires by seducing those who have earned it.
And this makes SP's different than others how?
I do not get to deduct till tax time either!
That does not mean I get to use it as an excuse to jack my rate up.
I would bet they are not ALL needed but as I have stated before, wanted.
Any mature adult should be able to differentiate between needs & wants.
And this brings me to the conclusion of my response;
An escort can charge whatever she wants but let's be honest with ourselves.
The money an escort gets comes from men & sometimes other women, who work hard for that money.
This is of course excluding the drug dealers & gang members who frequent & in some cases control the business.
The escort business & especially prostitution are not considered a legitimate business & operate on the fringes of legal commerce.
There is no educational requirements for becoming an escort.
There is a faction of this which does require training but that is in Japan & you would be called a Geisha.
I am certain that few here would have the intestinal fortitude to endure the life of a Geisha.
Nor are there many who even understand what one is.
This is an occupation that the ladies who are involved in either make by choice or out of servitude.
It is the oldest profession & it is & always will be considered illegitimate.
That is the context in which an escort must work.
There are inherent psychological impediments this line of work can impose upon the practitioner.
It takes a strong willed & unusually accepting psyche to do this type of provision for clients who are seeing you for a multitude of reasons but the one common denominator is intimacy.
I applaud those FEW who have mastered this field of work & who are professional providers of such a basic human need.
The reward of those who touch & heal those suffering from a lack of intimacy are that what they do is akin to a nurse caring for a sick patient.
They are like angels to our suffering society.
I abhor those who use this profession to take advantage of clients seeking intimacy & care nothing for them other than to scheme a way to pilfer as much money as possible from them with the hope of not providing the service being advertised.
I will continue to be an advocate of the honest providers & ...
A ROYAL PAIN IN THE ASS TO THOSE SELFISH, INSINCERE RIP-OFF ARTISTS WHO FREQUENT THIS OCCUPATION!!!
Cheers
Your friendly neighbourhood Krustee.
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It's lonely at the topFucking right!!!
It's just to bad there's nobody at my place right now other than me!
Not sure if we'll see that hyperinflation here in Canada this time around.
I think we're seeing a lot of bubble bursting and corrections, but not really deflation yet.
The US on the other hand... talk about deficit!! WOW
It will be interesting to see where the dollar goes over the next year or two.
Do you think canada will let the US go down by its self? canada, US ,and britains economies are tied in as well as mexicos. We are at the begining of the storm almost at the eye as the olympic cash flow will start to come in, the market might even go back up for housing temporarily. But as soon as that money leaves,we will be hit hard for the next 2 years. We will take alot of the US debt as we will buy up treasury bonds like crazy in exchange for oil, natural gas and hydro electricity. Treasury bonds that are worth nothing. Canada will be ok in the long term because of its natural resources, but the US will basically count on them to restablish their energy crisis. There is more oil in canada then in the middle east, just cost more to get it out. Never mind our vast forestry, clean water supply, natural gas up north. I do see the canadian government stepping up local infrastructure regarding produce, as they are preparing to produce it within canada instead of importing it from california and mexico. Canada as a whole is sitting pretty when you look at the demands on the country per canadian individual but the US s greedy hands are all over our shit and have been for some time but not nearly as much as they will need from us in the upcoming years. This will have a major effect on us economicaly.
Every so often we see complaints on this board from guys who are angry that a particular SP has the gall to charge what they perceive as an over inflated rate. The majority response is generally "She's allowed to charge whatever she wants so just don't see her if you don't like it."
So similarly, if a SP drops her rates the only reasonable response can be "she's allowed to charge whatever she wants." It cuts both ways.
So similarly, if a SP drops her rates the only reasonable response can be "she's allowed to charge whatever she wants." It cuts both ways.
I predict it will go down below the loonie again.
Currency is a cauldron of mystic muck right now.
No, you got that one wrong too, "Dick-head"Hmmm...didn't know that there was actually a correct or incorrect way to spell that. Ok...let's try a word that describes you...
How about "dickhead"?
Maybe you could tell me if I've spelled that one correctly for you?
yeah cause we all make $400 an hour and therefore just throw it around.
before i pay for someones louis vutton bag i'll pay my own bills first.
lol, decent lifestyle. many of the men that frequent this biz could only dream of the lifestyle and money some of your gals have.
if they have to do without gucci this or gucci that i'm sure they will be fine.
All of my Gucci's and Louis Vutton's come from Beijing.
At the start of this thread some jumped on my notation that some sp's have lowered their rate to $150 for 1.5hrs for repeaters.
Here's one from craigslist...
"I AM OFFERING A DEAL YOU CANT REFUSE .... $$ 120 1 HR F/S AVAIL ALL DAY!!"
Don't know what the service is like, but it is a sign of the times.
Some of the ad that was missed in your post?
I wouldn't call it a sign of times but special circumstances.
And I think the objection to your 150 was that most thought it was probably a half hour rate offered by an sp who wouldn't normally do that short visit. That is the sort of creative win-win thinking that I think many sps should be offering for new and regular clients. Also, it is possible the ad was for non-fs, another thing many sps ignore but is a greatly under-rated market.
...or it may be a sign of CRACK COCAINE ABUSE!!!!!At the start of this thread some jumped on my notation that some sp's have lowered their rate to $150 for 1.5hrs for repeaters.
Here's one from craigslist...
"I AM OFFERING A DEAL YOU CANT REFUSE .... $$ 120 1 HR F/S AVAIL ALL DAY!!"
Don't know what the service is like, but it is a sign of the times.
Panther
unfriggin believable
Now I'm reading how human beings should be compared to commodities. Ok so let's talk about the price of a suit. Worsted wool, made in Hong Kong by a respectable manufacturer of quality goods. Sells in HK for 135 USD. Same suit makes it to LA and sells at Mervins with a house label at 265 USD. Change the label and send it to Macys, it sells for right around 500 USD. On Savil Row in London it sells for 1000 USD or more. This is the same suit mind you, all that changes is the label. The perceived value depends on the relationship between the client and the retailer. Notice that in hard times, luxury homes still sell. Hard times for some mean profits and bonuses for others. How all of this will affect any individual working girl is also a matter of perceived value. An experience is just that, an experience. Like art, it's worth precisely what the buyer is willing to pay. Also like art, It's worth exactly what the artist can convince the buyer he or she should pay. If you buy limited editions by Salavdore Dali, you pay more because of the artists reputation. In this case it's rather more like performance art. the quality of the artist is generally known, but some performances are better than others. In other words this entire conversation is completely meaningless in the overall scheme of things and y'all should find something more important to discuss. You can now proceed to tell me to go f myself and this will go on for another 100 posts of pointless drivel.
Damn that felt good
Now I'm reading how human beings should be compared to commodities. Ok so let's talk about the price of a suit. Worsted wool, made in Hong Kong by a respectable manufacturer of quality goods. Sells in HK for 135 USD. Same suit makes it to LA and sells at Mervins with a house label at 265 USD. Change the label and send it to Macys, it sells for right around 500 USD. On Savil Row in London it sells for 1000 USD or more. This is the same suit mind you, all that changes is the label. The perceived value depends on the relationship between the client and the retailer. Notice that in hard times, luxury homes still sell. Hard times for some mean profits and bonuses for others. How all of this will affect any individual working girl is also a matter of perceived value. An experience is just that, an experience. Like art, it's worth precisely what the buyer is willing to pay. Also like art, It's worth exactly what the artist can convince the buyer he or she should pay. If you buy limited editions by Salavdore Dali, you pay more because of the artists reputation. In this case it's rather more like performance art. the quality of the artist is generally known, but some performances are better than others. In other words this entire conversation is completely meaningless in the overall scheme of things and y'all should find something more important to discuss. You can now proceed to tell me to go f myself and this will go on for another 100 posts of pointless drivel.
Damn that felt good
