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why do guys in this hobby think there not good enough for hot chicks
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The thing is Gary, you are making these statements as though you have a list of stats to back you up and you don't. So many men like this, so many men like that.
You are one man in a room with a computer and you have no idea how business in the SP world is unfolding in countless homes and hotels around the lower mainland and across the country.
Even if you were a manager of an agency you would only know the business as it pertains to 20 somethings which is most of what agencies are staffed with. So you would still have no idea of how much work mature women and those who advertise as BBW are pulling in.
Men who enjoy BBW may not be a vast majority, but, they are not as scarce as you seem to believe. There is a convention once a year for men attracted to BBW and it is quite amazing how many people attend.
I don't think anyone, any of the women here either, would look in contempt at a man who enjoys young athletic women. Hell, I like looking at them too. I wonder where you get this idea from?
It was quite surprising to me to discover, when I came back into the biz, how many young men enjoy older women. Thank you younger men! Thank you older men! Thank you to aaallll the men.
Cuteangie is right, confidence, pride and a certain animal magnetism, the lioness looking for her next conquest, these are characteristics I notice with older women who are comfortable with their sexuality. I know several who leave their hubbies to travel on frivolous women's vacations, and, really they are screwing the 20 something native lads.
(BTW, my brother had many skinny girlfriends in his younger years. This taste for BBW was acquired and he is quite addicted now. So, he experienced both and chose one)
You are one man in a room with a computer and you have no idea how business in the SP world is unfolding in countless homes and hotels around the lower mainland and across the country.
Even if you were a manager of an agency you would only know the business as it pertains to 20 somethings which is most of what agencies are staffed with. So you would still have no idea of how much work mature women and those who advertise as BBW are pulling in.
Men who enjoy BBW may not be a vast majority, but, they are not as scarce as you seem to believe. There is a convention once a year for men attracted to BBW and it is quite amazing how many people attend.
I don't think anyone, any of the women here either, would look in contempt at a man who enjoys young athletic women. Hell, I like looking at them too. I wonder where you get this idea from?
It was quite surprising to me to discover, when I came back into the biz, how many young men enjoy older women. Thank you younger men! Thank you older men! Thank you to aaallll the men.
Cuteangie is right, confidence, pride and a certain animal magnetism, the lioness looking for her next conquest, these are characteristics I notice with older women who are comfortable with their sexuality. I know several who leave their hubbies to travel on frivolous women's vacations, and, really they are screwing the 20 something native lads.
(BTW, my brother had many skinny girlfriends in his younger years. This taste for BBW was acquired and he is quite addicted now. So, he experienced both and chose one)
I'm guessing they like you because you seem to be in touch with your feminine side
way more than most men. You are also uninhibited in expressing it well.
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Strongly agree. I cannot remember how many times I've seen girls out in public who were much better looking than the SP I've seen right after or before. Even if they have the incredible looks they are horrible or mediorce at sex. A true young hottie with great GFE skills in very hard to find. A lot more misses than hits, even with reviews to go on.
Fact: women become more horny in their 40's. Live with it, or spend years looking
fop a needle in a haystack. Furthermore, many 30 & 40 YO are as hot as those in
their 20's, while providing better everything.
A madame I worked for used to get phone calls asking for a "10".
"Sir" she would say "think about it for a minute. Any girl who is a 10 isn't going to be hanging around Vancouver working as an escort for $300 per hour. She is going to be down in LA working at Hugh Heffner's or trying for a part in the movies. Besides, do you want to spend your time with a woman who thinks she is better than you and you should be grateful for being with her? Or do you want to spend time with a 6 or a 7 who really appreciates your business and wants to make sure you come back again?"
When I see a gorgeous woman I always think of how she could clean up in this biz. So, what is stopping them from being escorts and answering your dreams?
Maybe they see themselves as capable of landing some fellow with a really big income. Then they can enjoy a wonderful life and hardly ever have to screw him, or anybody. Well, maybe the pool boy
OK, I am talking in stereo types here, but, you see the point.
These very beautiful women are the perennial virgins. They will always be 'almost' unattainable and each man will be 'almost' the first. They are not going to ruin their reputation and their chances by being in a line up at the Fox Den.
"Sir" she would say "think about it for a minute. Any girl who is a 10 isn't going to be hanging around Vancouver working as an escort for $300 per hour. She is going to be down in LA working at Hugh Heffner's or trying for a part in the movies. Besides, do you want to spend your time with a woman who thinks she is better than you and you should be grateful for being with her? Or do you want to spend time with a 6 or a 7 who really appreciates your business and wants to make sure you come back again?"
When I see a gorgeous woman I always think of how she could clean up in this biz. So, what is stopping them from being escorts and answering your dreams?
Maybe they see themselves as capable of landing some fellow with a really big income. Then they can enjoy a wonderful life and hardly ever have to screw him, or anybody. Well, maybe the pool boy
OK, I am talking in stereo types here, but, you see the point.These very beautiful women are the perennial virgins. They will always be 'almost' unattainable and each man will be 'almost' the first. They are not going to ruin their reputation and their chances by being in a line up at the Fox Den.
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Again, I strongly agree with this post. When I first started this hobby years ago I had this perception that the majority of SPs were 8's and 9's. Realistically, there are a few 8's and 9's are near impossible to find.
There are a few hot chicks in this hobby. And it takes a lot of effort to find that one.
I know that beauty is on the eye of the beholder....but if Kendra / Lilith are not up there....I don't know who is.
As for the topic of the thread, NO! I could NEVER get these ladies in real life. I'm too wierd, skinny and face like a can of smashed assholes, makes it a tad difficult. I've been paying for it since I was 19 and now in my 40's I still am and will until death.
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I like all the responses u guys all have here bit I agree and disagree about certain things. I know men that are married and do sp's because they have the money to and much safer then having an affair with a non SP lady.I also believe that people that date co-workers is not the easy way out because asking out a woman is making approaches and 2 co-workers that are married can live ahppily ever after. I see SP's because I work 20 hours a week which is in the evenings and I go to school part time and I volunteer part-time. I can ask out a cute attractive girl but I'm a busy guy so in few months I may change my schedule and find a GF and retire for a while
This may not be fully related but I've been checking out some fascinating posts on http://www.reddit.com/r/seduction
It's about seduction, game, and picking up women. At first I thought it was just a bunch of posts on sleezy ways to get girls, but surprisingly, theres quite a bit about how to improve yourself as a person. I'm absorbing the side bar articles, especially "All about inner game"
Possibly more related on topic about being good enough for hot chicks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLGyh3UlqI4 Which talks more about how guys try to compare themselves about being good enough for that hot chick, when the thought process should be the other way around when approaching women
It's about seduction, game, and picking up women. At first I thought it was just a bunch of posts on sleezy ways to get girls, but surprisingly, theres quite a bit about how to improve yourself as a person. I'm absorbing the side bar articles, especially "All about inner game"
Possibly more related on topic about being good enough for hot chicks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLGyh3UlqI4 Which talks more about how guys try to compare themselves about being good enough for that hot chick, when the thought process should be the other way around when approaching women
I met a fellow once who was originally from Newfoundland, or Nova Scotia (while back now).
He had been here for 2 years and told me he just could not meet any women. Back east he had a different girl every month, but, here on the west coast everyone seemed very superficial. What you wore, the brands, and where you were seen etc...were very important and he did not buy into the hype.
He was such a nice guy too. Very attractive, great lean body, terrific ride. I felt sad all evening after I saw him.
I think loneliness trumps horniness for reasons to see an escort. Humans like to be touched.
He had been here for 2 years and told me he just could not meet any women. Back east he had a different girl every month, but, here on the west coast everyone seemed very superficial. What you wore, the brands, and where you were seen etc...were very important and he did not buy into the hype.
He was such a nice guy too. Very attractive, great lean body, terrific ride. I felt sad all evening after I saw him.
I think loneliness trumps horniness for reasons to see an escort. Humans like to be touched.
You are very wise and that statement incapsulated why I participate in this hobby.
It also works both ways for the SP and the client. A few weeks ago after some afternoon bliss, we were kicking back talking and touching in a non sexual way. I have what I have been told is a very good massage technique and she was really enjoying my therapeutic massage when I quietly asked "do you ever get touched in a non sexual way?" No, she told me and I could tell that is a missing part of her life. Even though I had gone well over my allotted time it was cool just to give her comfort with a head to toe massage.
I initially got into the hobby for the most basic male reasons; I was horny and not satisfied sexually. Now I have realized I was basically lonely and there is much more than sexual healing involved.
Interesting thread. When I first started SP's I was in my early 40's and I was fairly nervous. Ended up meeting Totally Touchable Tiffany as my first SP experience and it completely changed my view of things. For starters I expected an SP to basically go through the motions with an average looking older guy like me, but that's not what happened, I was made to feel very special and for that I'm grateful.
Over the years, maybe because of age, maybe because of $$, maybe because of who knows, I gained a lot of confidence and found that as that increased, younger women (ie in their 20's) seemed to smile at me more, perhaps because I unknowingly initiated eye contact, and now I pretty much think that an attractive woman, is just another woman, albeit with a little special something going for her.
Also over the years, I got into the Sugar Daddy role with one young women, who was 24 when we met and it now 29. At first I probably fawned over her too much because it was an awesome situation, but over the years, I've come to few her as partly a daughter, partly a friend, and just someone I enjoy helping. In some ways I think that since I only have one child to support, I can help her and her daughter out and it's like having a friend with benefits situation.
So back to the OP's original comments as to whether or not people think they're good enough for hot chicks, part of it is reality, (ie if your 50lb over weight, you probably aren't) and part of it is simply psychological. If you're not far off from average looking, then treat them the same as anyone else and they'll likely do the same back to you. Put them on a pedistal and often as not they'll feel uncomfortable and they'll view you as not strong. If you're asking them out try not to worry too much about what the answer is, make it a group thing or coffee or something that's kind of neutral on the relationship scale. I believe that woman like strong men, if not physically then they at least like to feel that a man can look after them financially, have decent social skills and treat them and others around them with respect.
Over the years, maybe because of age, maybe because of $$, maybe because of who knows, I gained a lot of confidence and found that as that increased, younger women (ie in their 20's) seemed to smile at me more, perhaps because I unknowingly initiated eye contact, and now I pretty much think that an attractive woman, is just another woman, albeit with a little special something going for her.
Also over the years, I got into the Sugar Daddy role with one young women, who was 24 when we met and it now 29. At first I probably fawned over her too much because it was an awesome situation, but over the years, I've come to few her as partly a daughter, partly a friend, and just someone I enjoy helping. In some ways I think that since I only have one child to support, I can help her and her daughter out and it's like having a friend with benefits situation.
So back to the OP's original comments as to whether or not people think they're good enough for hot chicks, part of it is reality, (ie if your 50lb over weight, you probably aren't) and part of it is simply psychological. If you're not far off from average looking, then treat them the same as anyone else and they'll likely do the same back to you. Put them on a pedistal and often as not they'll feel uncomfortable and they'll view you as not strong. If you're asking them out try not to worry too much about what the answer is, make it a group thing or coffee or something that's kind of neutral on the relationship scale. I believe that woman like strong men, if not physically then they at least like to feel that a man can look after them financially, have decent social skills and treat them and others around them with respect.
For me I really hate paying for sex. It has made me very bitter and unhappy. I have never had any luck with women. Yeah.. I have been with hot strippers and BTW there the worst. They will latterly just want to take your credit card and wallet... There not SP meaning they don't advertise as escorts but some not all do extras on the side if the prise is right... I here guys on here say well I would rather pay a SP for sex then go on some date spending money on a dinner and no guarantee you will have sex with the girl. call me old fashioned but I think some of you guys are too hung up on sex. I mean if I was on a date with this absolutely beautiful girl who looked like Jennifer Love Hewitt who was real nice and down to earth and we had a lot in common with, you think I'm going to complain that I didn't have sex with her on the first or second date? I would wait till she was ready. In the end isn't it worth it?? I guess that is why I always wanted to be in a real relationship. I am shy and I don't have any social friends out here and with my job being on the road all the time it makes it imposable to even meet any one... I don't know what the online dating sites are like here in Edmonton but the ones I was like Match.Com, LavaLife and Adult Friend Finder were a joke when I lived in Winnipeg! I could pick up a decent attractive looking gal in a club way easier then those online dating services. Any way to answer the original question that is why I pay for it. Its not worth it in my opinion.
I don't know if I've ever been on a date with a hot, nice girl I liked. I'm in the same boat as you for the most part. I work on the road, limited social life, shy etc. I've read self help books, worked on myself, all that stuff, but I just haven't been able to date women I want. Most of my real life dates/gf's were from online dating, which frankly sucks.
If you got the cash, your good enough for any hot chick:clap2:,its amazing really.I use to drive around in a shit box tracker & i'd never get a second glance, now i ride around in a 1 ton diesel truck & i'd say that easily 30% of the girls downtown check me out,even more on the weekends when there all pissed up.
Yeah I mean some of the women on those dating sites were pretty scarry looking... The decent ones would never reply back it seemed because they were getting like 200 messages a week from other dudes trying to pick them up. I know I have had chances with some women in night clubs but that shy nice guy comes out of me... I guess because I'm in my late 30's I just feel out of place in night clubs. Most of the women are in there late teens witch for me is ok because I love young women 19-25. I think I'm too heart broken and feel so down and depressed that I just dont want to even try any more. I find it just seems either you see so many attractive young girls with there BF's or the ones who are alone or with there GF's for the most part wont even glance at me. Or if they do they look the other way. Its so awkward to just walk up to some total stranger and just talk to her. I think that situation would get weird because she's going to wonder why this total stranger is chatting her up in a public mall. I can see why guys like us pay for SP's. No drama, no sorry I have a BF or ohh I dont have time to date I'm too busy BS... And yes I agree money does go a long ways. Chicks seem to like trucks. Or hot sports cars. I make decent money out here so I'm going to save up and buy me a real hot car. Not for the sake of picking up chicks but just to have something nice to drive in the summer.
I have slept with a hot chick that was not an escort, after all the dates were said and done(8 dates x average 100.00= 800.00) was one of the lousiest experiences ever, I felt like a necropheliac, she just layed there and the only thing that was different from a corpse was her moaning. She did not wrap her legs or arms around me,she did not move her hips, she did move until she orgasmed(small shudder) and would kiss me only when I moved my face close enough for her to do it(lazy bad lay). I asked her about it and she admited she liked it that way and prefered the guy to do all the work.
So 800.00 for bad sex or 800.00 for sex that makes you explode with ectsacy and leaves you feeling like you own the world, I will go for option 2, thank you very much
So 800.00 for bad sex or 800.00 for sex that makes you explode with ectsacy and leaves you feeling like you own the world, I will go for option 2, thank you very much
