What are some things providers do that make you not want to book with them?

[white Ninja 74]

Well I can tell you first hand at least a dozen times I’ve seen providers on LL asking anywhere from $900 to $1200 per hr , and I have literally never heard of them .

Looked them up , zero reviews.
No website at all , zero social media presence .
Just 2 or 3 crappy looking IPhone pics .
obviously zero affiliation w any group or agency , just rando indie decided to post an add and see what happens .

Considering it appears they have literally zero experience. I’m sure w the way these girls are looking at the situation given the evidence, these same women likely think just laying down and starfishing it warrants that price as well. Perhaps maybe some lfk or cbj it she happens to feel like it & throw the guy a bone .

These women are completely delusional.
I guess they figure if they can get one client a week or even a month , what the hell they made $1000 in one hr without any real commitment or effort put into getting themselves out there .

When ever I see adds like this I always wonder if anyone actually bites .
Surely none would be repeat customers though .

 

[YaletownFuckboi]

Do you think that a single provider will actually read this and make changes to their actions, advertising, or presentation?

No,

 

[YaletownFuckboi]

Well I can tell you first hand at least a dozen times I’ve seen providers on LL asking anywhere from $900 to $1200 per hr , and I have literally never heard of them .

Looked them up , zero reviews.
No website at all , zero social media presence .
Just 2 or 3 crappy looking IPhone pics .
obviously zero affiliation w any group or agency , just rando indie decided to post an add and see what happens .

Considering it appears they have literally zero experience. I’m sure w the way theee girls are looking at the situation given the evidence, these same women likely think just laying down and starfishing it warrants that price as well. Perhaps maybe some lfk or cbj it she feels like it .

These women are completely delusional.
I guess they figure if they can get one client a week or even a month , what the hell they made $1000 in one hr without any real commitment or effort put into getting themselves out there .

When ever I see adds like this I always wonder if anyone actually bites .
Surely none would be repeat customers though .

Its not just random leolist girls doing this.

you see this plenty on tryst.

girls asking 900-1200 , who have one or two reviews. usually from 5 years ago when they were charging 1/4 the rates.
then they rely on guys who saw them way back to white knight for them when the inevitable negative or mediocre reviews come out.

 

[kelcaine]

This thread has some really good answers, most of which would be universally agreed upon by pooners.

Do you think that a single provider will actually read this and make changes to their actions, advertising, or presentation?

Some may, some may not. Honestly one of the things I have found useful on PERB, with posts like this & even not the most positive feedback on past reviews of mine (especially when I was new) is being able to see things from the clients perspective, and to be able to have constructive criticism to help me learn and grow as a provider, where I have used this to put time, money and effort into myself, and my business, and how I run my sessions.

Outright put downs and insults are never necessary, but constructive criticism is a great thing to use in life. This was something I began to learn much more when I was in college, and I try to apply it to every day life and my work.

It’s always good to get feedback and to hear others perspectives and opinions imo. I appreciate the people who took the time respond in this thread.

 

[rlock]

I've got nothing original to say here, just in agreement with a lot of what was already said.

In general:
1) Lack of information from her. Rates, at least some general idea about what she is like (short vs. tall, degree of curvy, so on - pics are not always enough). "Menu" (which is a euphemism so people can talk about "it" without explicitly talking about "it") has to become known at some point, so I have no problem seeing it in an ad. Not classy to do that? Okay, but when clients ask, do not get mad at them asking. They should show some tact when asking, but they do need to ask and be told at some point. Ambiguity during booking often causes problems later.

2) Asking too much information from me. There's forms of screening which are okay, but respect goes both ways, privacy goes both ways, therefore security goes both ways. There is no perfect system of screening, obviously, and it's already risky (for both providers and clients) meeting at all, but most personal info should only be spoken once trust has been established, not before. For me, until that point the information condom stays on, for her protection and for mine.

3) Number 1 and 2 I guess lead to point #3, that I avoid anything that smacks of an adversarial attitude or situation. I'm not there to fuck up anyone's life, and I do not want them fucking up mine. If meeting someone means interacting like that from the get-go, I'd rather not meet at all.
3B) "All guys / all clients are the same, like ______ " statements. Other than the fact that all clients are clients, no, we're not.

4) Yeah, keep other guys out of the picture, I also just want to pretend they do not exist. It's an animal instinct at work, not a moral code. Personal preference of course, but the question was what puts me off.

5) Hard drug use / providing = immediate & huge red flag. There's some girls I have seen ads for that I'd want to see otherwise, but never tried to book them (or stopped booking with them), because that is the issue.

6) Boasting about wealth, acting materialistic in ads and social media. It's probably intended as advertising, as glamour, etc. in this case, but in general, it is crass and off-putting to see wealth thrown about by people, especially as some sort of act to show what big shots they think they are. No matter how "VIP" they try to act, it is a dead giveaway that you're not a real one (or if you are, the worst kind of one). It sets off that instinct where I judge them and think they're a person I should avoid, not seek out. In my life experience, the classy ones who have a lot of wealth never spend much time talking about how much they have. Ladies showing appreciation for gifts, being happy to have fun experiences, and showing that you can be sophisticated and classy enough to blend in to that high society crowd if it's called for, is fine. I know it is weird to have objections to "shallowness" in this context, but "stay classy" is good advice, not just some catchphrase from a comedy film.

 

[happycanuck99]

Using "high class" in an ad. It seems to me that's not unlike calling one's self humble: when you claim it, it stops being true. If you are, the truth will come out - no need to claim it.