What we have is a budding relationship between Dood and Larissa. This was already becoming obvious earlier. It appears to be more than "budding" by now. I like the way Larissa is handling it. If it were I, I'd feel compelled to commit to her and therefore honour the relationship. It makes me happy to be a witness, albeit on a thread in the Lounge. It fulfills me to view them relate both protectively (of one another), respectfully and tenderly. It's a love story, Folks. Thanks, you two,
Walking away from the sex trade
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I agree Hubba, but not because it's playing out on a public forum.
I liked Larissa in the beginning, she seemed like a fun, cool chick and perfect for Dood. Then Dood has a bit of a meltdown that nearly leads to an outright bitterness towards women, and Larissa comes back to mend his broken heart. Trouble is I read her blogs and have come to see she is actually a very cold, calculating, manipulating unscrupulous whore. I don't know what everyone else is reading but her disdain for men and the flippant attitude towards us is repugnant, and she certainly doesn't paint women in a very flattering light either. I feel sorry for Dood now, she seems like the precise type of cold hearted, male abusing, advantage seeking, power hungry woman that is the last person he should be in a relationship with, she comes across as all sweet and innocent but I think she knows exactly what she is doing. Men are stupid, she said it herself.
Actually her only impediment is herself. Just like any other adult. kinda like you dood.
Also her words aren't any more profound than Krustee's.
There's nothing ground-breaking about her musings.
She is just generalizing like he did, like Hubba said.
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I think some of you boys are getting WAY too defensive and taking things far too personally. The ego is a fragile thing, but still.... there's no need to get all offended. No one's saying all men are this way and all women are that way, To some extent I can understand the reaction but giving her shit or complaining that she's cold or whatever else is kinda pointless.
It is what it is,. It's Larissa's own POV, her past, her experiences, her progression, her way of coping and her reality. Getting offended and defensive about it serves absolutely no purpose.
All i can say after reading everyone's shhbang on this topic; "Don't regret your past. Learn from it; regrets make a person weaker"
I'm not offended, I'm liberated! Her blogs are very informative, I am afterall just a stupid man. But now I can see, I'm learning. Like your post Miss Bijou, I can now understand that you are just appeasing our fragile egos and catering to our suggestable minds, not all men and women are that way....right. No, you need to keep us believing that we are that one good client, or decent man....and that you and most SP's are that grateful, appreciative virtuous woman who does it because it is enjoyable.
I have no fantastical view of this business, it is what it is. I'm sorry I can't sympathize with Larissa, her writing makes me feel as much the victim as her.
I'm not offended, I'm liberated! Her blogs are very informative, I am afterall just a stupid man. But now I can see, I'm learning. Like your post Miss Bijou, I can now understand that you are just appeasing our fragile egos and catering to our suggestable minds, not all men and women are that way....right. No, you need to keep us believing that we are that one good client, or decent man....and that you and most SP's are that grateful, appreciative virtuous woman who does it because it is enjoyable.
I have no fantastical view of this business, it is what it is. I'm sorry I can't sympathize with Larissa, her writing makes me feel as much the victim as her.
aww come on HB40..
I'm not saying you have to sympathize with Larissa and I can understand that reading her POV is disturbing and probably makes you have doubts about your own experiences with sp's. But this is one individual voice so it doesn't reflect all sp's, a minority or even the majority of us. Larissa is her own person and her background is also hers. You can't apply her feelings or motivations to anyone else but to her. Same goes for all of you guys.. I don't read some of the disturbing comments and attitudes that are often displayed on this site and assume the same applies to every single one of you guys... I know that just isn't the case.Just like the whole Misty saga (even if we now know it wasn't her writing), I can imagine it is a little disturbing and perhaps disappointing to read about but if it's her truth, then what else would you expect or suggest she write or how would you want her to go about it? If it's too disconcerting I don't think anyone would blame you or others for deciding you'd prefer not reading it. It's perfectly understandable. But for this to be any good for Larissa, and be worth writing, it can't be anything other than honest, otherwise it would be a waste of time for her as well as for the reader. If it was watered down, not completely honest, glossed over, glamorized and written while trying to avoid offending anyone - it would be useless and pointless. I'm sure you would agree, no?
Everyone's story is a result of a variety of things (eg. age, family, background, reasons, maturity, personality, motivations, OPTIONS, mental state, addictions and SO MUCH more) that make it unique to that person only, and it isn't fair to assume or imply that her words apply to anyone else other than herself. We all have different reasons for doing this, we all have different backgrounds and we all have our own lessons to learn.
I do think it's far more likely to be damaging, be harder to manage the experience in a way that isn't emotionally destructive or that results in burning out for girls who are still in their teens or early 20's. HOWEVER even then, that isn't always the case either because some of the younger girls have that emotional maturity, just as someone who may be older may still not be .
As I wrote in my previous post, Larissa's blog is Larissa's unique story of her experience leading to and walking away from many years in the sex trade. It doesn't reflect my experience and that is because my experience and life "before" escorting is completely different, because I am not Larissa and my life is my own and not Larissa's. I choose to see it as a privilege to be allowed into Larissa's extremely personal musings on her path in life, her personal struggles, insecurities, challenges, trials, errors and the life lessons she's learned through good like the ugly - just like every other person. That hers involves the sex trade with unhealthy insecurities, issues and reasons which were probably amplified by being an sp, is why we're reading it, but other than that we all have some darker issues and lessons learned the hard way somewhere in our past. Anyone out there who says they don't is either lying, still in denial and refusing to address it or truly a rare occurrence. It's shocking because of the context it's in (sex trade).
Personally I have nothing but respect for people who have the balls to take responsibility for their own life, happiness and personal growth. The way I see it is that the point isn't to judge for this or that comment, action or thought along the way but to just accept it as first a privilege to be invited in to someone's head so to speak, and second, to see it the whole thing and not get stuck on little bits of it that are disturbing on their own. (I'm having a really hard time explaining this and putting my thoughts into words here so I'm not sure if what I just wrote made any sense!? If not, I'll try to explain better.) That's why I think it's pointless to take offense to what might be written and why it's definitely wrong to assume that anything Larissa writes applies to anyone other than to Larissa herself.
Sorry for the super long post but it's all HB40's fault.
lolThank you for the super long post, I agree with most you say and appreciate your point of view, you continue to help me see things more rationally and realistically, I mean that honestly.it isn't fair to assume or imply that her words apply to anyone else other than herself.
That's why I think it's pointless to take offense to what might be written and why it's definitely wrong to assume that anything Larissa writes applies to anyone other than to Larissa herself.
Sorry for the super long post but it's all HB40's fault.
The problem I have is she is not applying her experiences only to herself, she is in fact implying a general rule towards men and women. I am reading her blogs with interest, I assume she intends for us to see it without rose coloured glasses, to apply her experiences to the business as a whole. Like I said, I don't know how anyone else is reading it, but that is my interpretation, I believe she wants to cause reaction, for better or worse this is my reaction.
Thanks again Miss Bijou, I hold you in high regard and read closely what you say, sure I have doubts and insecurities, but ladies like yourself reinforce my positive feelings and the simple joys I experience with escorts.
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It totally agree with you. Unlike some reactions to her blog, my reaction is sympathy. Larissa has experienced some of the darkest sides of humanity so it is unsurprising that it had turned her into a cold vindictive person towards men, love, and life. But at the same time when i read her blog, I also see a woman with dreams and ambitions for a better life, someone that want to experience true love. It seems she wants to believe that her view of the world is wrong and all that she needs is someone to show her that. Dood, I really hoped that your relationship with her had a long lasting positive impact.
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I acutally have to admit that i've been reading her blog quite frequently. I'm a bit hooked, it's a very voyeuristic insight.
Is english her first language? I know that she said she dropped out of school in Gr. 10 or something, but I was surprised to see that she's quite a bit older than I thought she was.
Anyways, one thing I noticed. It says that she is trying to leave the sex trade, as of recently all the entries have been illustrating her life currently working as a sex worker and I haven't noticed she hasn't written much about leaving the industry. So Larissa, are you in or are you out? I guess i'll just keep reading her blog on my lunch break lol
Is english her first language? I know that she said she dropped out of school in Gr. 10 or something, but I was surprised to see that she's quite a bit older than I thought she was.
Anyways, one thing I noticed. It says that she is trying to leave the sex trade, as of recently all the entries have been illustrating her life currently working as a sex worker and I haven't noticed she hasn't written much about leaving the industry. So Larissa, are you in or are you out? I guess i'll just keep reading her blog on my lunch break
lolIf you read her first entry again you will see that is currently 29 and left the industry one year ago.I acutally have to admit that i've been reading her blog quite frequently. I'm a bit hooked, it's a very voyeuristic insight.
Is english her first language? I know that she said she dropped out of school in Gr. 10 or something, but I was surprised to see that she's quite a bit older than I thought she was.
Anyways, one thing I noticed. It says that she is trying to leave the sex trade, as of recently all the entries have been illustrating her life currently working as a sex worker and I haven't noticed she hasn't written much about leaving the industry. So Larissa, are you in or are you out? I guess i'll just keep reading her blog on my lunch break
And we are reading her journey to getting there, along with her decision to do it (at the point of the visit with Papa if not before). She decided to start at the beginning.
I don't take her story as though she speaks for all sps, but just that she is speaking for herself. She can possibly speak for many of the sps who left school (and home?) at 16 and found they had a marketable commodity. Also, for those who left home at 16 because they had an alcoholic parent who either ignored them or berated them all their life. Her perception of her value is based on a dollar amount because that is what she experienced, that her worth is related to youth and looks?
Also, HB, your sp experiences is based in AB, where even Larissa admits is a great place for sps and clients, and that she experienced finally feeling respect and the benefits of regulars, how much she valued them for this and to being able to avoid dealing with new enquiries. Also, that she felt better even about herself based on the higher amount paid in AB vs TO. I don't know if you spend any time reading up on that area, but it is brutal on young sps, brutal regarding the services and rates that are forced upon them, and brutal by both clients and agencies if a young sp tries to choose independence (or to offer anything less than PSE services. Good luck getting appts booked for her if she has these concerns. Also, the aggressive recruitment tactics of some agencies towards any new indy sp). The low rates and agency/mp run way of doing things guarantees high volume. The aggressive tactics guarantees it necessary to do more extreme services, and the younger age ensures they lack the experience (and assertiveness) to the kind of depression and coping/defense decisions Larissa used (drinking/drugs) to get thru very trying days.
But she is not telling a story that some members here insist is the reality of many if not all sps, is she? That they see clients as nasty walking wallets, smile in their faces while laughing at them, and drugged up drunks interested only in shopping and high living? I have seen similar descriptions of sps by some of the posters here who claim they don't like her portrayal of the way she was seeing her clients?
I think it is sad that she did not find happiness in the work that she chose, but I do also recognize that when she hit Calgary, she chose to make it a business approach and succeeded in raising her own self esteem away from seeing herself as someone who can't do anything to someone who can.
Hello.
I write my story. It's not the same as some others. If you read it, i say some Sp's like the job, some not so much. Each has a different experience. It's Dood and another that inspire me to write it. I am ashamed for some time as I cannot write English. Since I am a child I cannot make thoughts go to my fingers. It's an impedingment. But it's dood that tells me, write anyway. He said words are power. He said words change things. So I will say the truth on how I see things. Am I angry with men? Yes, so much. It's near the end I learn something. Dood makes me take therapy. I talk to this lady. I discover that I have the wrong man for role models. I see the bad pooner as what a man is. This lady teaches me to see Papa and Marky as my role models. Each person is not perfect. What matters most is you find out yourself. I think many do not know it.
Yes, I leave the sex trade about 1 year ago. I slipped a bit but now I am gone. This life is behind me. Tomorrow is my day.
I see some dislike me because I try to control men. I say to you. I bet you are a good man. You are tender in your heart. But you forgot not all are this way. Some don't see an Sp as a person. Just as a cumbag. It's not just me that must speak. You must too. You think this way ok. What makes me mad at men? Not the clouds out the window. It's the men that don't respect me. I learn my anger is their anger they directed at me. If you are in the street with your wife. A man comes to your woman, calls her down. You protect her. If you are in the street and a man goes to a woman near you and calls her down and hits her. You will go and stop him. I know it. So how come a man doesn't do this for an SP? Do you protect me like the wife or like the lady in the street? Not so many do. More should. Many think the SP's must change this business. It's true. But just as much the pooner must help too.
Marky sais this words to me before. He sais that silence is never the answer. I think a long time and he is write.
I write my story. It's not the same as some others. If you read it, i say some Sp's like the job, some not so much. Each has a different experience. It's Dood and another that inspire me to write it. I am ashamed for some time as I cannot write English. Since I am a child I cannot make thoughts go to my fingers. It's an impedingment. But it's dood that tells me, write anyway. He said words are power. He said words change things. So I will say the truth on how I see things. Am I angry with men? Yes, so much. It's near the end I learn something. Dood makes me take therapy. I talk to this lady. I discover that I have the wrong man for role models. I see the bad pooner as what a man is. This lady teaches me to see Papa and Marky as my role models. Each person is not perfect. What matters most is you find out yourself. I think many do not know it.
Yes, I leave the sex trade about 1 year ago. I slipped a bit but now I am gone. This life is behind me. Tomorrow is my day.
I see some dislike me because I try to control men. I say to you. I bet you are a good man. You are tender in your heart. But you forgot not all are this way. Some don't see an Sp as a person. Just as a cumbag. It's not just me that must speak. You must too. You think this way ok. What makes me mad at men? Not the clouds out the window. It's the men that don't respect me. I learn my anger is their anger they directed at me. If you are in the street with your wife. A man comes to your woman, calls her down. You protect her. If you are in the street and a man goes to a woman near you and calls her down and hits her. You will go and stop him. I know it. So how come a man doesn't do this for an SP? Do you protect me like the wife or like the lady in the street? Not so many do. More should. Many think the SP's must change this business. It's true. But just as much the pooner must help too.
Marky sais this words to me before. He sais that silence is never the answer. I think a long time and he is write.
I agree that it's been a respectful discussion (and I appreciate that).
I never said it hasn't been.
