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I have no problem with it. You want to be compassionate, empathetic. But at some point one's patience just runs out. I get it.

In my darkest moods, my own sinister side is hoping the US collapses into a full blown civil war, like it is coming anyway and they just need to get it over with. Like on some level, they could have made better choices, but it was never their nature to do so.

Such a conflict would see them finished off as a global power, breaking them to pieces. Goodbye to the Empire Of Lies, and hello to Gilead or Panem or whatever speculative dystopian clusterfuck comes after.

Deserved, like divine payback for many evils? Or just a culture that is just all played out, with people who are just out for themselves and sick of tolerating each other?

Neither main political party down there seems able anymore to generate any sort of worthy leadership, or just actively discourages it; I guess generations of top-to-bottom corruption ,and a cult-like refusal to question their own dogma will do that in the end.

Letting someone like the Reality Show Ayatollah come to power, perhaps even twice after all the clear proof he's an unrepentant fuck-up & criminal, will prove the Americans are just another evil empire in collapse, breaking under the sheer weight of its own petty bullshit. (Note I said come to power, not get elected - even him losing an election is no guarantee that deadly force does not get used in an attempt to alter that result.)

So it is natural to have some kind of morbid fascination with the prospect seeing it unfold in real time. (Not nice, but understandable.)

However, one big problem with this outcome for Canada: We won't get the satisfaction of being just passive spectators to their self-destruction.

Canada is too close to that dumpster fire, and the embers are already setting things on fire here. Too many idiots and assholes up here like to import that sort of insanity, to mindlessly copy & paste it, because they do not know any better and are basically gutless ass-kissing eunuchs (no matter how "tough guy patriot" some of them pretend to be). They are forever rejecting the real traditions & history of this nation, and obsessed with conforming to the warped narratives & values of that one.

So if the USA starts some kind of holy war against itself (and they are already 7/8 of the way there), the copycat clownfuckers up here in Canada - who already try to manipulate us with the stale leftovers of America's political tactics - will want to pull us into it, to join in and somehow "make a difference". They would ramp up their efforts to integrate us into that same disaster, just at time when all real Canadians should be quarantining Canada against whatever political disease is rampaging down there.
Nice speech.

It's chock full of sweeping rhetorical statements and erroneous conclusions.

Very little meat on the bone here.

Maybe enlighten us further.

What makes the US the "evil empire"?

Facts, figures, maybe some historical anecdotes?

On the flipside, where do most people in the world run to when they want to escape poverty, oppression etc?

I'm pretty sure it's the US.

Is the US perfect?

Far from it.

Lots of issues but not too bad compared to a lot of places in the world.

If you don't like it you're free to leave.

I don't see many people leaving.

If it's so horrible, why aren't they all trying to escape, maybe even to Canada?

Lol.

I prefer Canada, but the US would be my second choice of where to live.

So, I ask again, what makes America so evil?
 

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Highlighted in red below....no kidding, eh lol? I mean seriously, this guy -- plus a few others -- gotta get a real life. If that is what living a " seniors " life is like.....YIKES!! That's pretty sad. At the end of the day....doesn't anyone really give a rats ass about those 2 !!? I'm shocked this thread is still going on but it keeps dominating the top lounge listing! :rolleyes:

Move on Valley dude. You won't win with these left loonies.


He asks an expert if they can inject it. That isnt suggesting and you obviously did not read the left wing Politico fact check I put up but they agreed Mr. Poster Boy for Trump Dementia Syndrome. If you read it you might have also read about the misunderstanding he cleared up the next day.

I agreed he said lock her up. I also saw him nod in agreement when people started chanting it. I agree she should have been locked up.

So now you can rush breathlessly to your computer to angrily scour the internet for more anti Trump videos or memes to post here......it seems to be your obsession and at this time it appears you will be able to enjoy doing it until 2028 so you will have a lot more fun to look forward to..
 
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It's too bad there are really only two political parties in the USA.. I don't see much difference between the Dems and Repubs, they're all super tunnel vision polarized at this point, it would be nice to see another option. There are plenty of Dems that don't want Biden,.. and plenty of Repubs that don't want Trump.. what they need is an alternative.

The political structure in the USA (and Canada) is designed to protect special interests and the wealthy elite status quo (it is politics after all)... but even with all the problems, at least it is somewhat democratic,.. there are worse political entities out there.
 

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It's too bad there are really only two political parties in the USA.. I don't see much difference between the Dems and Repubs, they're all super tunnel vision polarized at this point, it would be nice to see another option. There are plenty of Dems that don't want Biden,.. and plenty of Repubs that don't want Trump.. what they need is an alternative.

The political structure in the USA (and Canada) is designed to protect special interests and the wealthy elite status quo (it is politics after all)... but even with all the problems, at least it is somewhat democratic,.. there are worse political entities out there.
You're right, our torturers are pretty good relatively speaking. We should leave them alone and just accept the torture.
 

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It's very clear what orange turd said about injecting bleach. Some people follow him blindly and would say anything to defend him to the extend of lying for him. The thing is, they know very well that it's a lie and they still do it. It's absolutely awful.
Its the conceptual lens of attempting to differ between "suggesting" and "inquiring". Most normal people would see what Trump said as "inquiring". He is asking a doctor whether or not injecting would work. What people with TDS see is him "suggesting"people inject it . It can be interpreted as "suggesting" that the doctors look into it as a solution, but in no way is he recommending to people to inject bleach. Here are both sides of the issue

https://www.allsides.com/blog/facts-vs-myths-did-donald-trump-tell-people-inject-bleach
 
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Its the conceptual lens of attempting to differ between "suggesting" and "inquiring". Most normal people would see what Trump said as "inquiring". He is asking a doctor whether or not injecting would work. What people with TDS see is him "suggesting"people inject it . It can be interpreted as "suggesting" that the doctors look into it as a solution, but in no way is he recommending to people to inject bleach. Here are both sides of the issue

https://www.allsides.com/blog/facts-vs-myths-did-donald-trump-tell-people-inject-bleach
But you can't really sweep under the table that it takes a special kind of cunt to even "suggest" that doctors look into injecting bleach as a solution if that is what you are claiming. Like a child at the dinner table trying to insert himself into a conversation with adults. trump solar eclipse.jpg
 
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Its the conceptual lens of attempting to differ between "suggesting" and "inquiring". Most normal people would see what Trump said as "inquiring". He is asking a doctor whether or not injecting would work. What people with TDS see is him "suggesting"people inject it . It can be interpreted as "suggesting" that the doctors look into it as a solution, but in no way is he recommending to people to inject bleach. Here are both sides of the issue

https://www.allsides.com/blog/facts-vs-myths-did-donald-trump-tell-people-inject-bleach
Ok. Given the circumstances, will you inquire? Let's put it this way. Go to your doctor and ask him if it's feasible to inject bleach to the body to treat Covid. Let me know what he say.
 
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Looks like the the state of NY did it's civil duty to America. Trump is now behind in the polls. Bragg should run for President in 2028
 

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But you can't really sweep under the table that it takes a special kind of cunt to even "suggest" that doctors look into injecting bleach as a solution if that is what you are claiming. Like a child at the dinner table trying to insert himself into a conversation with adults. View attachment 96704
I would suggest to them to go see their doctors and ask, inquire, suggest, or whatever words they want to use, if they can inject bleach to treat covid, and share with all of us here what their doctors will say. 🤣 He was the POTUS for God sake. His words matter.
 
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I would suggest to them to go see their doctors and ask, inquire, suggest, or whatever words they want to use, if they can inject bleach to treat covid, and share with all of us here what their doctors will say. 🤣 He is the POTUS for God sake. His words matters.
Maybe someone should inject Trump with bleach. Say. shove a 2 litre bottle of it up his ass. Just a suggestion.
 

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But you can't really sweep under the table that it takes a special kind of cunt to even "suggest" that doctors look into injecting bleach as a solution if that is what you are claiming. Like a child at the dinner table trying to insert himself into a conversation with adults. View attachment 96704
That sort of reminds me of your behavior strangely enough.

Anyways I do note that things seem to be a bit quiet on here after the debate. I dont really have much to say on it. I thought the moderators actually did a really good job of not inserting themselves into the conversation and letting the politicans go at each other. Muting the mikes worked out well. It was good to not have them speaking over each other. I will let the mainstream media who mainly support Biden give you their response

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Trump wasn't great but Biden was an absolute disaster. Desperation and attempts to cope will be setting in over the next month or so before the DNC Convention in Chicago in August as to what to do. Their bench is empty of viable candidates as they are determined not to allow Kamala to ever be President which...considering Biden's current mental state is a statement on how they view her competency. You guys can now ...unless a miracle happens, and they do.....happily look forward to another close to 5 years of posting Trump memes and vitriol to your hearts content.

That debate was a dagger in the heart of the Democratic party's chances to keep the Presidency away from Trump. The only way they can do it now is through some skullduggery but its obvious now how the media has conspired to keep Biden's mental state from the public, but now they can no longer hide it. That was his performance after 7 days of intense preparation in an airplane hangar with 16 political advisors flying around on scooters.

Im out. Enough is enough. Back to posting about more enjoyable shit.
 

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There won't be a 2nd debate, this one ran half hour too long that playing Golf was brought up. I have the View on DVR this morning waiting for how Joy Behar will cover for Biden.
My bet is Gavin Newsom get the Dem ticket, he looks good and can out talk anyone. I realize stepping over Harris looks bad as a white guy leapfrogging her but the Dems are desperate that will forget racial politics for this.
 
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There won't be a 2nd debate, this one ran half hour too long that playing Golf was brought up. I have the View on DVR this morning waiting for how Joy Behar will cover for Biden.
My bet is Gavin Newsom get the Dem ticket, he looks good and can out talk anyone. I realize stepping over Harris looks bad as a white guy leapfrogging her but the Dems are desperate that will forget racial politics for this.
The golf debate was, how you might say? a little off track. lol
 

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That sort of reminds me of your behavior strangely enough.

Anyways I do note that things seem to be a bit quiet on here after the debate. I dont really have much to say on it. I thought the moderators actually did a really good job of not inserting themselves into the conversation and letting the politicans go at each other. Muting the mikes worked out well. It was good to not have them speaking over each other. I will let the mainstream media who mainly support Biden give you their response

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Trump wasn't great but Biden was an absolute disaster. Desperation and attempts to cope will be setting in over the next month or so before the DNC Convention in Chicago in August as to what to do. Their bench is empty of viable candidates as they are determined not to allow Kamala to ever be President which...considering Biden's current mental state is a statement on how they view her competency. You guys can now ...unless a miracle happens, and they do.....happily look forward to another close to 5 years of posting Trump memes and vitriol to your hearts content.

That debate was a dagger in the heart of the Democratic party's chances to keep the Presidency away from Trump. The only way they can do it now is through some skullduggery but its obvious now how the media has conspired to keep Biden's mental state from the public, but now they can no longer hide it. That was his performance after 7 days of intense preparation in an airplane hangar with 16 political advisors flying around on scooters.

Im out. Enough is enough. Back to posting about more enjoyable shit.
Quote from someone else. But sums it up quite well.
Biden has only taken this turn for the worse recently. Fuck, he could have just had a bad sleep. but what it does prove about "the pro-Biden crowd" is that we are reasonable and open minded to change our opinions when new information is presented, or the situation changes. NONE of us are Cult Members worshipping their Demagogue. Yet we have all given Trump credit for his PERFORMANCE in THIS specific debate. Despite the FACT that mush of what he said was pure bullshit. Objectively lying.

What I don't get is how you guys are so enthralled by such a lying, malignant narcissistic POS and beleive his schtick. And how wilfully and enthusiatically ignorant of the facts you Trump trombonists revel in being.


Another one.

It depends on whom you want in the Oval Office. An old man who's health is failing or a rancid traitor.
 

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A quote from earlier in this thread , "He was the POTUS for God sake. His words matter."

How about now? Who IS the POTUS, and do the words he tried to croak out last night still matter? I see the excuses already coming out.

Trump wouldn't answer a lot of questions, but Biden could barely compose a thought. ONE ENTIRE WEEK, of nothing but preparation for that debate, and he couldn't hold a thought, or remember what he was supposed to say. He shuffled out like someone in a care home looking for his slippers, then froze up and wasn't able to get his first comment out. After the debate, Kamala Harris said he had a bad start. No shit, Sherlock. First impressions matter. So does the second and third.

The Trump haters on this site will ignore what aired, but for the rest of us, what you saw with Biden, is what a lot of undecided and soft Democrats will remember. So will the leaders in Iran, Russia, North Korea and China. But yeah, Biden had a bad sleep, or had a cold.

You should be a lot more frightened of another four years of a confused Biden, than a bombasticTrump.
 

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Orange turd was lying all through out the debate, no question about that. JB had the chance to punch back and factcheck him but he failed to do that. It was a big disappointment for a lot of people. At the end of the day, Americans will have to decide who they want to lead their country. Do they want a man who clearly will destroy democracy as we know it? Or an old man who clearly cares about his country and the people? Which I believe should be the barometer of who should lead the country. As one person once told me recently, to understand America, one needs to think like an American. If we are to do that and base on the performance of JB last night, orange turd might just be the 47th President of the USA, unfortunately. 😔 I really hope Americans will see that once they lose that democracy, it will be lost forever.
 

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You should be a lot more frightened of another four years of a confused Biden, than a bombasticTrump.
Biden should test Trump's immunity claim

what is more frightening is Harris or whatever nut job Trump is going to pick as VP

cause neither are likely to be competent for another 4 years

the real problem is the Dems can, but have no one to replace Biden with

if he would have picked a real VP instead of the woke bullshit pick of Harris, he could have stepped aside, not that he still shouldn't
 
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