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Orange turd was lying all through out the debate, no question about that. JB had the chance to punch back and factcheck him but he failed to do that. It was a big disappointment for a lot of people. At the end of the day, Americans will have to decide who they want to lead their country. Do they want a man who clearly will destroy democracy as we know it? Or an old man who clearly cares about his country and the people? Which I believe should be the barometer of who should lead the country. As one person once told me recently, to understand America, one needs to think like an American. If we are to do that and base on the performance of JB last night, orange turd might just be the 47th President of the USA, unfortunately. 😔 I really hope Americans will see that once they lose that democracy, it will be lost forever.
You can't even comment in a civil manner. You ignore actual quotes in videos posted in favour of how Democrats interpret them. You think a weak, stumbling, incoherant and doddering old man is better than someone you disagree with politically. You believe the constant "threats to democracy" mantras with literally not a shred of backing information or logic.

You believe a few hundred unarmed lunatics, out of thousands at a rally staged an "insurrection", with no backing from the military or organization. In short, you are exactly what you accuse rabid Trump supports of being - indoctrinated sheep who only listen to what they've been told. Meanwhile a compliant, one-sided media who refuse to do look for anything that doesn't meet their agenda, indoctrinates you. Biden repeatedly lied too. About inflation, deaths, Covid, political violence and the border, but you just ignore that in your world. The more the left accuses the right of things, the more it reflects back at them.
 
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R u surprised 😆!?? I'm not because they can't handle the truth! They can't see through the Windows Even though they're clear.
It's beyond my knowledge how anybody can defend Biden after what we saw last night? It's more than embarrassment and they're beyond being in denial.
Again.....TDS to the max.

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The Trump haters on this site will ignore what aired, but for the rest of us, what you saw with Biden, is what a lot of undecided and soft Democrats will remember.
 
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You can't even comment in a civil manner. You ignore actual quotes in videos posted in favour of how Democrats interpret them. You think a weak, stumbling, incoherant and doddering old man is better than someone you disagree with politically. You believe the constant "threats to democracy" mantras with literally not a shred of backing information or logic.

You believe a few hundred unarmed lunatics, out of thousands at a rally staged an "insurrection", with no backing from the military or organization. In short, you are exactly what you accuse rabid Trump supports of being - indoctrinated sheep who only listen to what they've been told. Meanwhile a compliant, one-sided media who refuse to do look for anything that doesn't meet their agenda, indoctrinates you. Biden repeatedly lied too. About inflation, deaths, Covid, political violence and the border, but you just ignore that in your world. The more the left accuses the right of things, the more it reflects back at them.
I wonder how the TDS crowd on PERB managed to get through Trump’s first term.

Looks like he's going to be re-elected.

There's going to be some next level meltdowns.

Endlessly entertaining.
 
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Dems r fucked if the keep peddling Joe after last night

Trump doing what trump does best and lie lie lie, at least people were able to hear his lies ... But man oh man what a pending disaster waiting in November for Dems unless Joe is replaced which I doubt will help with 5mo ths to go...... I doubt swapping at the nominee will help now

We just sit bakc and enjoy the turmoil that will be the US for the next 4 years
 
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That sort of reminds me of your behavior strangely enough.

Anyways I do note that things seem to be a bit quiet on here after the debate. I dont really have much to say on it. I thought the moderators actually did a really good job of not inserting themselves into the conversation and letting the politicans go at each other. Muting the mikes worked out well. It was good to not have them speaking over each other. I will let the mainstream media who mainly support Biden give you their response



Trump wasn't great but Biden was an absolute disaster. Desperation and attempts to cope will be setting in over the next month or so before the DNC Convention in Chicago in August as to what to do. Their bench is empty of viable candidates as they are determined not to allow Kamala to ever be President which...considering Biden's current mental state is a statement on how they view her competency. You guys can now ...unless a miracle happens, and they do.....happily look forward to another close to 5 years of posting Trump memes and vitriol to your hearts content.

That debate was a dagger in the heart of the Democratic party's chances to keep the Presidency away from Trump. The only way they can do it now is through some skullduggery but its obvious now how the media has conspired to keep Biden's mental state from the public, but now they can no longer hide it. That was his performance after 7 days of intense preparation in an airplane hangar with 16 political advisors flying around on scooters.

Im out. Enough is enough. Back to posting about more enjoyable shit.

Aye, it was a dismal bit of political theatre that I only side-watched. What I did pay attention just reinforced the idea that most Americans wanted neither of these candidates to begin with.

Trump lied his ass off, but that's just Trump being Trump. If having no adherence to the facts turned off his core supporters, it would have already happened the previous 2 elections. I think they only measure they go by whether they believe he will do what they want him to do, and maybe they will still get swindled on most of it (like the Mexico wall), but they still have faith these things will happen. Either that or they just accept whatever convoluted explanation he gives on why it doesn't or why the policies change from week to week. At this point Team R is really just team T, so other than Supreme Court appointments, there is no prospect of that party influencing him to behave differently. More like he has forced them into acting like him.

Biden, sheesh. He really brought out the "old grandad" version. He did not seem like himself, not even like his recent self. My guess is maybe his staffers over-prepared him, because he was going through it like a student that has studied so hard that at exam time, all the answers they memorized just blur together. If that can happen to people in their 20's, imagine what it does to a guy breaking 80. A commenter on today's news, an actual professor of debates, said pretty much the same thing - that it made him stiff instead of loose & natural.

The Dems have been running that "don't worry, he's old, but still solid & dependable when it comes to governing" narrative, but even though it may be true in terms of actual POTUS-ing, thanks to that debate the shaky narrative eroded. It's not that he's senile at all, but it still begs the question of why they couldn't have gotten a candidate 20 or 30 years younger who could do all the same policies & decisions, and dispatch Trump with more wit & energy. Better than betting all their chips on winning some "old man grudge match". The Democrats - the DNC, not the grassroots membership who never wanted this - did this to themselves. They decided that "if Biden wants to take on Trump again, that is just how it is going to be". They did not allow even the possibility of any primary challenger. They ignored any need for generational change, and not to mention the fact that Biden was already 8 years a vice president to a guy who was a generation younger than himself. As always, the grassroots members got fucked as the DNC brass grabbed the wheel and steered the party towards an unpalatable choice (unpalatable to their own members).

Is it too late for them to switch candidates? I think it is. The presidential primary season is already over. So unless Biden has a stroke or something that incapacitates him, there's no way to oust him now without destroying his dignity, negating his accomplishments, and looking like a party in a full blown panic. Whoever they replaced him with at this point would have to get in there by acclamation & the DNC brass making an arbitrary snap decision, which is how their party got into this mess in the first place. Whoever else they got at this point would not like ride in like heroic savior on a white horse, but probably end up as some sacrificial lamb who commits career suicide. Any real contenders for power might back away from the idea of even trying. There is still some chance for them to win of course, one more debate an a lot of campaign left to change tack and say it is about the party not just the president, but they can't have any more of what just happened.
 
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a real VP instead of the woke bullshit pick of Harris, he could have stepped aside
The Dems seem to find the most uncharismatic people over and over. First Hilary now Kamala…it doesn’t matter how brilliant a policy genius you are, if people don’t like you, you don’t get elected.
I don’t like Trump at all but you have to admit he is a good bs’er, and he knows how to play to an audience.
 
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You can't even comment in a civil manner. You ignore actual quotes in videos posted in favour of how Democrats interpret them. You think a weak, stumbling, incoherant and doddering old man is better than someone you disagree with politically. You believe the constant "threats to democracy" mantras with literally not a shred of backing information or logic.

You believe a few hundred unarmed lunatics, out of thousands at a rally staged an "insurrection", with no backing from the military or organization. In short, you are exactly what you accuse rabid Trump supports of being - indoctrinated sheep who only listen to what they've been told. Meanwhile a compliant, one-sided media who refuse to do look for anything that doesn't meet their agenda, indoctrinates you. Biden repeatedly lied too. About inflation, deaths, Covid, political violence and the border, but you just ignore that in your world. The more the left accuses the right of things, the more it reflects back at them.
Yes, JB was a disaster last night. No one can deny that. But orange turd is not a better man. Not even close. He lied all through out this debate. And never in this forum have I ever said I disagree with him politically bcoz he doesn't have any political views for me to disagree with in the first place. He lies as often as he breaths. Your statement about my views is swiping and without merit. I believe I do not need to enumerate all the things that this man has done to make me come to the conclusion that he shouldn't be the leader of the free world again. All his life he has been a cheater, a fraud and a con. From the many bankruptcies, to his fraudulent foundations, the trump University, inciting his mob to storm the capital, to trying to steal the election, to stealing top secret classified documents etc, not to mention a convicted felon, and indicted in 3 other cases. Yes, JB is an old man and probably shouldn't be the president of the US again. I truly believe that. But he is a good and honest person, a decent man who love is country and his people. All his life he has served his country well. Whether you agree or not with him is another conversation. I will never question anybody's political views bcoz my views may also be different from yours...at the end of the day it is this difference that makes democracy works. A continuing exchange of opinions, communication, argument and then coming to an agreement for the betterment of the majority. Orange turd is none of these. In his four years as president he has done nothing. Promise to build a wall that Mexico will pay for that didn't happen. Weaken NATO. Promise to be a dictator in day one. Even said last night that JB should be convicted and sent to jail? What's JB's crime? 🙄 Added $8T to their national debt. That's a fact. He Inherited a thriving economy only to fuck it all up at the end of his term. Downplayed covid that caused the death of millions of people even to the extend of suggesting injecting bleach as a cure. WTF was he talking about? Like I said time and time again. This is never about policies. This is about a person who refuse to accept the voice of the people. Who lost in an election that he knows but continue to lie about it up to now. And for what?? For his self preservation. To be someone like Putin, Kim, or Xi. He admires these people. He said it many times. Choose to believe Putin than all his own people. I've lived and worked in the Philippines during the Marcos Sr era as a young man. I can tell you.It ain't nice. Look at what's happening in America.. his lies have divided his country. Imagine what will happen if he becomes the president again. Some here might not like my opinions but I humbly ask them to keep an open mind. It's just my opinion.
 
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Yes, JB was a disaster last night. No one can deny that. But orange turd is not a better man. Not even close. He lied all through out this debate. And never in this forum have I ever said I disagree with him politically bcoz he doesn't have any political views for me to disagree with in the first place. He lies as often as he breaths. Your statement about my views is swiping and without merit. I believe I do not need to enumerate all the things that this man has done to make me come to the conclusion that he shouldn't be the leader of the free world again. All his life he has been a cheater, a fraud and a con. From the many bankruptcies, to his fraudulent foundations, the trump University, inciting his mob to storm the capital, to trying to steal the election, to stealing top secret classified documents etc, not to mention a convicted felon, and indicted in 3 other cases. Yes, JB is an old man and probably shouldn't be the president of the US again. I truly believe that. But he is a good and honest person, a decent man who love is country and his people. All his life he has served his country well. Whether you agree or not with him is another conversation. I will never question anybody's political views bcoz my views may also be different from yours...at the end of the day it is this difference that makes democracy works. A continuing exchange of opinions, communication, argument and then coming to an agreement for the betterment of the majority. Orange turd is none of these. In his four years as president he has done nothing. Promise to build a wall that Mexico will pay for that didn't happen. Weaken NATO. Promise to be a dictator in day one. Even said last night that JB should be convicted and sent to jail? What's JB's crime? 🙄 Added $8T to their national debt. That's a fact. He Inherited a thriving economy only to fuck it all up at the end of his term. Downplayed covid that caused the death of millions of people even to the extend of suggesting injecting bleach as a cure. WTF was he talking about? Like I said time and time again. This is never about policies. This is about a person who refuse to accept the voice of the people. Who lost in an election that he knows but continue to lie about it up to now. And for what?? For his self preservation. Look at what's happening in America.. his lies have divided his country. Some here might not like my opinions but I humbly ask them to keep an open mind. It's just my opinion.
"But he is a good and honest person"

Based on what?

Your gut feeling?

Maybe do a little research.

Read Biden’s Wikipedia page.

I'm not saying he's an evil genius.

He's just a bumbling, back sliding third rate politician.

Somehow he parlayed his limited amount of intelligence and ability into becoming the President of the US.

Blame the system, I guess.
 

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You can also add Gavin Newsom as a slick smooth BS'r. I could see right through him when he talks. He's got that classic car saleman scheme going on.


The Dems seem to find the most uncharismatic people over and over. First Hilary now Kamala…it doesn’t matter how brilliant a policy genius you are, if people don’t like you, you don’t get elected.
I don’t like Trump at all but you have to admit he is a good bs’er, and he knows how to play to an audience.
 

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"But he is a good and honest person"

Based on what?

Your gut feeling?

Maybe do a little research.

Read Biden’s Wikipedia page.

I'm not saying he's an evil genius.

He's just a bumbling, back sliding third rate politician.

Somehow he parlayed his limited amount of intelligence and ability into becoming the President of the US.

Blame the system, I guess.
You can also add Gavin Newsom as a slick smooth BS'r. I could see right through him when he talks. He's got that classic car saleman scheme going on.
...and orange turd is a better person?
 
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