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Cock Throppled

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I'm wondering if any of the Trump haters here have ever tried to verify what CNN, The Wapo, NY Times or Democrats say? Have any of you ever bothered to seek out other opinions, viewpoints or narratives that might not fit with what you've been told from left-leaning media and politicians? And no, I don't mean Fox news, which I personally have never watched.

There are foreign media, on-line sources and right-leaning media that often show that big stories the Dems spread are often half-truths, selective quotes, gossip or unconfirmed. But, by far the favoured method is to simply ignore, or not report whatever doesn't fit their agenda. Issues of race and immigration are notorious for that approach.
 

angry anderson

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I'm wondering if any of the Trump haters here have ever tried to verify what CNN, The Wapo, NY Times or Democrats say? Have any of you ever bothered to seek out other opinions, viewpoints or narratives that might not fit with what you've been told from left-leaning media and politicians? And no, I don't mean Fox news, which I personally have never watched.

There are foreign media, on-line sources and right-leaning media that often show that big stories the Dems spread are often half-truths, selective quotes, gossip or unconfirmed. But, by far the favoured method is to simply ignore, or not report whatever doesn't fit their agenda. Issues of race and immigration are notorious for that approach.
 

angry anderson

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I'm wondering if any of the Trump haters here have ever tried to verify what CNN, The Wapo, NY Times or Democrats say? Have any of you ever bothered to seek out other opinions, viewpoints or narratives that might not fit with what you've been told from left-leaning media and politicians? And no, I don't mean Fox news, which I personally have never watched.

There are foreign media, on-line sources and right-leaning media that often show that big stories the Dems spread are often half-truths, selective quotes, gossip or unconfirmed. But, by far the favoured method is to simply ignore, or not report whatever doesn't fit their agenda. Issues of race and immigration are notorious for that approach.
 

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People talk about the "Swamp" in Washington.

The sleazy, greasy and corrupt politicians that inhabit the Swamp.

Hilary Clinton personifies that type of swamp dweller.

Her main claim to fame?

She's Bill Clinton's wife.

She parlayed that nugget of notoriety into a run at the Presidentcy of the US.

Turns out she was more hated than Donald Trump.

Who knew?
 
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LLLurkJ2

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So 50% of Americans are "brainwashed MAGA goofs with a bogus evangelical religion"? There is absolutely no other reason people might want to vote for him? Immigration, economy, crime, foreign relations, wars in Ukraine and Israel being funded with taxpayers money....no other reason?

Your astute analysis of American politics is very insightful and impressive. You are so much smarter than them because you watch MSNBC, the View, Stephen Colbert and read the New York Times and Washington Post....they would never spread misinformation........or would they? Ever stop to consider who is actually in the disinformation bubble? Probably not. ...no...definitely not.
Yes because hes offered a concrete platform to adress all these issues and is not just blowing smoke up evryones asses. Thats why hes selling the bibles and the NFTs and whatever other litteral pieces of shit to his supporters. Hes like the shopping chanel rolled into jim jones rolled into reggie rich all in one.

If Trump gets re-elected h'ell just pardon himself and it will be viewed as the most corrupt event in American politcal history. All the other stuff nothing will happen just like the firtst term. No wall , no immigration reduction, didnt do anything to China or North Korea, didnt reduce crime economy was worse, etc..
 
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LLLurkJ2

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I'm wondering if any of the Trump haters here have ever tried to verify what CNN, The Wapo, NY Times or Democrats say? Have any of you ever bothered to seek out other opinions, viewpoints or narratives that might not fit with what you've been told from left-leaning media and politicians? And no, I don't mean Fox news, which I personally have never watched.

There are foreign media, on-line sources and right-leaning media that often show that big stories the Dems spread are often half-truths, selective quotes, gossip or unconfirmed. But, by far the favoured method is to simply ignore, or not report whatever doesn't fit their agenda. Issues of race and immigration are notorious for that approach.
As much as youve checked the veracity of 'alternative news'
 
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thevalleydude

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If you go further back about Garland you will see that he has always been a moderate conservative. The far right qualify that as liberal which is quite far from the truth as Lindsey Graham months prior was hinting for his selection ....but even so....it was not McConnell's to make .

As for Politico being a reliable source ...once again it all depends who writes the article. I never trust any source entirely ...never did never will. Ex. National Post yes good source but an article written by Conrad Black becomes fish wrapping paper 98% of the time , which stinks 2 days later
If he was on Bill Clintons shortlist then he was actually a Democrat 30 years ago. That is far enough back.
If you go further back about Garland you will see that he has always been a moderate conservative. The far right qualify that as liberal which is quite far from the truth as Lindsey Graham months prior was hinting for his selection ....but even so....it was not McConnell's to make .

As for Politico being a reliable source ...once again it all depends who writes the article. I never trust any source entirely ...never did never will. Ex. National Post yes good source but an article written by Conrad Black becomes fish wrapping paper 98% of the time , which stinks 2 days later
What does Conrad Black have to do with anything? That was not who I sourced it from. And going back over 30 years in history for a person on Bill Clintons radar is far enough to determine a persons political leanings at this point.
 
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People talk about the "Swamp" in Washington.

The sleazy, greasy and corrupt politicians that inhabit the Swamp.

Hilary Clinton personifies that type of swamp dweller.

Her main claim to fame?

She's Bill Clinton's wife.

She parlayed that nugget of notoriety into a run at the Presidentcy of the US.

Turns out she was more hated than Donald Trump.

Who knew?
You must have forgotten the part where Hillary got 3 million more votes than Donald.
 

angry anderson

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People talk about the "Swamp" in Washington.

The sleazy, greasy and corrupt politicians that inhabit the Swamp.

Hilary Clinton personifies that type of swamp dweller.

Her main claim to fame?

She's Bill Clinton's wife.

She parlayed that nugget of notoriety into a run at the Presidentcy of the US.

Turns out she was more hated than Donald Trump.

Who knew?
 

thevalleydude

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Yes because hes offered a concrete platform to adress all these issues and is not just blowing smoke up evryones asses. Thats why hes selling the bibles and the NFTs and whatever other litteral pieces of shit to his supporters. Hes like the shopping chanel rolled into jim jones rolled into reggie rich all in one.

If Trump gets re-elected h'ell just pardon himself and it will be viewed as the most corrupt event in American politcal history. All the other stuff nothing will happen just like the firtst term. No wall , no immigration reduction, didnt do anything to China or North Korea, didnt reduce crime economy was worse, etc..
He screwed up on the wall and should have done more when he had control of the senate and congress in his first two years but nothing else you said is true whatsoever. You fit in the same "insightful" category as Mr Memescooter.
As for the veracity of "alternative news"...if it wasnt for the work done by a large number of online contributors we would probably never found out the truth about what we were being told by mainstream media on covid...re vaccine veracity, origins, effectiveness of masking, the truth about ivermectin, that social distancing was a made up construct, that most people who actually died having covid also had three other morbidities as the main contributors to their demise and covid was just the final straw. That is just one example. There are many reliable sources on YouTube, Rumble Substack from both progressive left and right wing contributors who give a far more accurate play on the news than what you will read in the corporate owned New York Times or CNN....but you yourself are welcome to remain incurious and not read past the headlines like most of your ilk. Just accept the goop they feed you and smile.

There is a reason that cable news network ratings are in the tank, mainstream media circulation has dropped drastically leading to mass layoffs, and no one watches late night television anymore. For many people the trust is lost. But there are still those who hang on by their fingernails praying at the altar of the narrative given. I can see many of their remnants have flocked here.
 
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thevalleydude

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You must have forgotten the part where Hillary got 3 million more votes than Donald.
You must have forgotten the part where the United States has this thing called the Electoral College. It is there to help protect the less populated states from being overrun by the desires of the main population centers..to give them a say in how the country is run....unlike Canada where once Ontario and Quebec have voted the rest of the country just has to accept that their own votes rarely count for anything.
 

angry anderson

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You must have forgotten the part where the United States has this thing called the Electoral College. It is there to help protect the less populated states from being overrun by the desires of the main population centers..to give them a say in how the country is run....unlike Canada where once Ontario and Quebec have voted the rest of the country just has to accept that their own votes rarely count for anything.
 

angry anderson

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He screwed up on the wall and should have done more when he had control of the senate and congress in his first two years but nothing else you said is true whatsoever. You fit in the same "insightful" category as Mr Memescooter.
As for the veracity of "alternative news"...if it wasnt for the work done by a large number of online contributors we would probably never found out the truth about what we were being told by mainstream media on covid...re vaccine veracity, origins, effectiveness of masking, the truth about ivermectin, that social distancing was a made up construct, that most people who actually died having covid also had three other morbidities as the main contributors to their demise and covid was just the final straw. That is just one example. There are many reliable sources on YouTube, Rumble Substack from both progressive left and right wing contributors who give a far more accurate play on the news than what you will read in the corporate owned New York Times or CNN....but you yourself are welcome to remain incurious and not read past the headlines like most of your ilk. Just accept the goop they feed you and smile.

There is a reason that cable news network ratings are in the tank, mainstream media circulation has dropped drastically leading to mass layoffs, and no one watches late night television anymore. For many people the trust is lost. But there are still those who hang on by their fingernails praying at the altar of the narrative given. I can see many of their remnants have flocked here.
 

angry anderson

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He screwed up on the wall and should have done more when he had control of the senate and congress in his first two years but nothing else you said is true whatsoever. You fit in the same "insightful" category as Mr Memescooter.
As for the veracity of "alternative news"...if it wasnt for the work done by a large number of online contributors we would probably never found out the truth about what we were being told by mainstream media on covid...re vaccine veracity, origins, effectiveness of masking, the truth about ivermectin, that social distancing was a made up construct, that most people who actually died having covid also had three other morbidities as the main contributors to their demise and covid was just the final straw. That is just one example. There are many reliable sources on YouTube, Rumble Substack from both progressive left and right wing contributors who give a far more accurate play on the news than what you will read in the corporate owned New York Times or CNN....but you yourself are welcome to remain incurious and not read past the headlines like most of your ilk. Just accept the goop they feed you and smile.

There is a reason that cable news network ratings are in the tank, mainstream media circulation has dropped drastically leading to mass layoffs, and no one watches late night television anymore. For many people the trust is lost. But there are still those who hang on by their fingernails praying at the altar of the narrative given. I can see many of their remnants have flocked here.

As Emergency Ends, a Look at Covid’s U.S. Death Toll - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
 

angry anderson

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He screwed up on the wall and should have done more when he had control of the senate and congress in his first two years but nothing else you said is true whatsoever. You fit in the same "insightful" category as Mr Memescooter.
As for the veracity of "alternative news"...if it wasnt for the work done by a large number of online contributors we would probably never found out the truth about what we were being told by mainstream media on covid...re vaccine veracity, origins, effectiveness of masking, the truth about ivermectin, that social distancing was a made up construct, that most people who actually died having covid also had three other morbidities as the main contributors to their demise and covid was just the final straw. That is just one example. There are many reliable sources on YouTube, Rumble Substack from both progressive left and right wing contributors who give a far more accurate play on the news than what you will read in the corporate owned New York Times or CNN....but you yourself are welcome to remain incurious and not read past the headlines like most of your ilk. Just accept the goop they feed you and smile.

There is a reason that cable news network ratings are in the tank, mainstream media circulation has dropped drastically leading to mass layoffs, and no one watches late night television anymore. For many people the trust is lost. But there are still those who hang on by their fingernails praying at the altar of the narrative given. I can see many of their remnants have flocked here.
 
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LLLurkJ2

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He screwed up on the wall and should have done more when he had control of the senate and congress in his first two years but nothing else you said is true whatsoever. You fit in the same "insightful" category as Mr Memescooter.
As for the veracity of "alternative news"...if it wasnt for the work done by a large number of online contributors we would probably never found out the truth about what we were being told by mainstream media on covid...re vaccine veracity, origins, effectiveness of masking, the truth about ivermectin, that social distancing was a made up construct, that most people who actually died having covid also had three other morbidities as the main contributors to their demise and covid was just the final straw. That is just one example. There are many reliable sources on YouTube, Rumble Substack from both progressive left and right wing contributors who give a far more accurate play on the news than what you will read in the corporate owned New York Times or CNN....but you yourself are welcome to remain incurious and not read past the headlines like most of your ilk. Just accept the goop they feed you and smile.

There is a reason that cable news network ratings are in the tank, mainstream media circulation has dropped drastically leading to mass layoffs, and no one watches late night television anymore. For many people the trust is lost. But there are still those who hang on by their fingernails praying at the altar of the narrative given. I can see many of their remnants have flocked here.
Right...and all those people who died in old folks homes and hospitals were just a side effect, collateral damage in everyones right to free expression of narrcassim.

What they should of done is shut *everything* down for two weeks and thrown the dissenters asses in jail. Then it would have been over quick.

As for alternative news and spin, ive long read alternative sources and am quite of aware of coporate spin, though ive always seen it as leaning pretty right. The problrm with your sources is you dont bother to check the facts, and then someone goes to shoot up a pizza place.

And you never addressed the fact that Trump has no platform.
 
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angry anderson

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Right...and all those people who died in old folks homes and hospitals were just a side effect, collateral damage in everyones right to free expression of narrcassim.

What they should of done is shut *everything* down for two weeks and thrown the dissenters asses in jail. Then it would have been over quick.

As for alternative news and spin, ive long read alternative sources and am quite of aware of coporate spin, though ive always seen it as leaning pretty right. The problrm with your sources is you dont bother to check the facts, and then someone goes to shoot up a pizza place.

And you never addressed the fact that Trump has no platform.

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