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rlock

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Well unfortunately for you guys it appears that the Trump delay tactics have worked on both the Jack Smith prosecutions.

Democrats need a Black Swan event to win this it appears. Most Americans appear to feel disdainfully towards what appears would become a Kamala Harris Presidency at the rate Biden is deteriorating.
Biden's not deteriorating any faster than Trump is. They are both grumpy old men and people just have to admit it and stop with the silliness about who is more sleepy or senile.

The Dems deciding (without allowing any second guessing on this) just just run Biden again because Trump was running again, was a terrible mistake. Not because Trump is better than Biden (he is not, in any metric of presidential accomplishment or personal behavior).

The reason is it signalled that as a party they are just not interested in competition or new blood or new ideas (or acknowledging why they failed in 2016). Their version of "new" is people like Kamala Harris or Pete Buttigieg, who are good if you like checking certain identity boxes, but who are clear products of the same dissatisfying "DNC insiders decide the outcome" process, and marketing their previous failures as successes will not change the fact they are not well liked. The word came down from on high: Biden is their man until Trump is gone for good, and the party will not listen to any other possibilities or allow any internal competition to take place.

Has Biden done things as President, some big things for his country? Yes, but you can see why "building critical infrastructure, fostering long term economic renewal, and future-proofing America's strategic defense architecture" might all be true and make their lives better (eventually), but it also is dull as fuck to the average US voters, who want to be entertained rather than governed. That's not to say demented goofballs like RFK Jr. should ever have a shot (pardon the pun) at power, but in a party with over 1 million active members across 50 states, the Dems could not do better than the movie called: "Biden vs. Trump II - This Time It's Personal" (a sequel where all the main characters and plotlines are the same as 4 years ago) ?

The Republicans are also running the same sequel as their option, but they allowed a pretend competition and used the controversy about Orange Emperor of Scumbags to actually boost him up; basically they are running the villain in the same movie, and demanding that everyone let the villain win *or else*. Underneath him, the GPS cast of characters is like a collection of those snotty henchmen from Star Wars and whatever else, who get rudely bumped off after Darth Vader / Blofeld / Sheriff of Nottingham / Megatron / Eric Cartman tells them "you have failed me for the last time". In the meantime, these obnoxious mooks are not trustworthy, possibly not even sane, but they are memorable. Being a bunch of treacherous snakes is working for them; villainy is his go-to move, so it is the gospel of their party. "The bad guys win" - that's how the movie goes if you ask them what they want from it all.

On the upside, I'm glad the two old coots will debate each other. Prepare to hear a lot of angry talk about "whippersnappers" and "MacGillicutties". It's not two guys going into a Thunderdome, but at least it's not going to only be between their competing networks of noise-makers.
 
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rlock

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As they say ...you get what you deserve. The US can't come up with better choices than these 2 demonstrates how the "mighty" have fallen. Biden is guilty of being old.... Trump is guilty of being Trump. Gary Hart must rolling in his grave... but times were different then. Found liable for sexual assault, a mysoginist and compulsive liar , often when their is need to even lie... gets a pass or applause from his clan. Might be best to just to blow it up and start over.. The GOP seems to have no interest or ability to govern. Congress is a train wreck. It's kinda fun to watch though. Performance vs policy. Lack of immigration or immigration camps will further more draconian laws around abortion and birth control (few trial balloons being floated). Seems implausible, but some MAGA question their right to vote. So if Trump wins... no one cheated but if Biden wins... they clearly cheated. Seems on point.
Exactly. People think they live in some black & white culture war battle, like if one group are villains the others must be heroes, if one group is disappointing the other must be great. They are all being suckered.

It's just Burger King versus McDonalds, for people who no longer remember what real food tastes like. You might like one or the other, but the odds of an E-Coli ass-plosion are very high no matter which one you eat.

They'll be hotly debating toilet wine versus radiator grilled cheese next.
 

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Remember the rampant inflation, out of control crime and geopolitical chaos during the Trump administration?

Neither do I.

That's Biden stuff.

Your TDS is getting the better of you.
Pretty sure 2 of those would have happened no matter who was president . Face it you have a hate for Biden as bad as anyone you claim has TDS
 

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Exactly. People think they live in some black & white culture war battle, like if one group are villains the others must be heroes, if one group is disappointing the other must be great. They are all being suckered.

It's just Burger King versus McDonalds, for people who no longer remember what real food tastes like. You might like one or the other, but the odds of an E-Coli ass-plosion are very high no matter which one you eat.

They'll be hotly debating toilet wine versus radiator grilled cheese next.
Id say the Biden admin is miles better than the Trump admin in most cases. The two old toilet/throne sitters are almost irrelevant.
 

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Biden's not deteriorating any faster than Trump is.
I beg to differ. Biden can't even read off a teleprompter without making a ton of gaffes. Trump freestyles his speeches for an hour and a half at rallies and has boundless energy They are quite obviously NOT deteriorating at the same rate. But dont believe what you see right before your eyes.

 

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I beg to differ. Biden can't even read off a teleprompter without making a ton of gaffes. Trump freestyles his speeches for an hour and a half at rallies and has boundless energy They are quite obviously NOT deteriorating at the same rate. But dont believe what you see right before your eyes.

Trump rambles on and just makes up shit. neither of them are any good
 

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Trump rambles on and just makes up shit. neither of them are any good
He always did that. As far as making shit up they both do.
Kamala is behind him, pulling the strings. She won.

And im ok with that.
Kamala is not pulling anyone's strings lol. The only reason Biden is still running is because she would be an even bigger disaster. If Biden screws up this debate I can still see a switchout to Newsome who can appoint Kamala as the Governor of California and bring in Michelle Obama as his VP because then she wont have to drastically change her life and do much. Its more a ceremonial position. Arranged that way it could be a winning ticket.
 

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He always did that. As far as making shit up they both do.

Kamala is not pulling anyone's strings lol. The only reason Biden is still running is because she would be an even bigger disaster. If Biden screws up this debate I can still see a switchout to Newsome who can appoint Kamala as the Governor of California and bring in Michelle Obama as his VP because then she wont have to drastically change her life and do much. Its more a ceremonial position. Arranged that way it could be a winning ticket.
I call bullshit. Did you not see how big of a collective Turd the right dropped in their pants when she was nominated VP? A capable ethnic woman from California? I diagree with some of the things shes done, but you dont become AG of the state without merrit.

It could be that Trump supporters have fallen for the idea that shes dumb, but thats jusy the mud the Pub party is slinging, not factual at all. Its like they'll believe any ol lie that comes around. Shes an easy target for the bigot/misogynists so keeps a low profile is all.
 
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I call bullshit. Did you not see how big of a collective Turd the right dropped in their pants when she was nominated VP? A capable ethnic woman from California? I diagree with some of the things shes done, but you dont become AG of the state without merrit.

It could be that Trump supporters have fallen for the idea that shes dumb, but thats jusy the mud the Pub party is slinging, not factual at all. Its like they'll believe any ol lie that comes around. Shes an easy target for the bigot/misogynists so keeps a low profile is all.
"A capable ethnic woman from California"

LMFAO!!!!!

Hilarious!

Keep them coming.

Comedy gold!
 

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and again, you are that 1 that says anything Biden does is bad, you call everyone a TDS but you suck trumps balls
 

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and again, you are that 1 that says anything Biden does is bad, you call everyone a TDS but you suck trumps balls
You're not in the same league as the OP but this is the second funniest thing that I've read on this thread.

You guys should get together and form a comedy duo.

It's good stuff.
 

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"A capable ethnic woman from California"

LMFAO!!!!!

Hilarious!

Keep them coming.

Comedy gold!
Attempt to dimiss it all you want, but i doubt you're sporting a law degree . Nor have you beaten out the competion to become an AG. Shes got you and i beat for credentials by any measure.
 

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Attempt to dimiss it all you want, but i doubt you're sporting a law degree . Nor have you beaten out the competion to become an AG. Shes got you and i beat for credentials by any measure.
You are aware how she accelerated her career path right? She certainly had talents that her competition either couldn't or just wouldn't use to get ahead. This is public knowledge. She is the ultimate story of a woman who fucked her way to the top and is one fall down the stairs away from the Presidency and being the most powerful person in the world. Now that is a success story.
But under no circumstances other than an incapacitated Biden before November will she EVER become President.
Cackling Kamala's every public appearance seems to become an embarrassment and the DNC is desperately trying to find her a soft landing to get her out of the picture.
 

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The comments are hilarious
Yeah they didn't like being told the truth. Who does? I doubt in the end any of them will vote for Biden however. Some might vote for Trump. They do have a better path to some semblance of power with him and his policies are more in line with theirs than those of the Democrats..
 
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