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Drjohn

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Misogyny is rampant on the right these days. Along with racism and ignorance. Imagine believing Harris is dumb, and Trump is a genius. The right has just about everything ass-backwards these days.

Biden will probably step down during his second term and Kamila will be the first female POTUS.

I'm going to enjoy watching all of the heads explode.
You should be passing on this information to American voters.

They are preparing to re-elect Trump.

Who's head will be exploding then?
 

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I do believe no one from either side will let the voting watchdogs go to sleep from 10pm to 6am. This election will be watched like none other. I have faith that cheating will be be done this time.
 

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I do believe no one from either side will let the voting watchdogs go to sleep from 10pm to 6am. This election will be watched like none other. I have faith that cheating will be be done this time.
Naw, they'll find some Republican guyswho voted in a couple of states like last time.
 

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As a point of reference this is from a guy who believes Justin Trudeau is a genius and Canada would be lost without him.
Well, I mean, he's beat you guys and three cpc leaders so far.

So maybe you're as ass-backwards about Trudeau's smarts as you are about Trump's.
 

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Misogyny is rampant on the right these days. Along with racism and ignorance. Imagine believing Harris is dumb, and Trump is a genius. The right has just about everything ass-backwards these days.

Biden will probably step down during his second term and Kamila will be the first female POTUS.

I'm going to enjoy watching all of the heads explode.
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/i-...t-and-i-was-sanctioned-for-encouraging-debate

yeah, it's just the right that is ass backwards these days

Hamas is female friendly, Queer Friendly

Swedish Gramas walked over the fence and butchered babies, raped women

not Palestinians, who support, cheer, welcomed home Hamas, along with all the "innocent" followers who went along on Oct 7th

you know, the one's who the left wing media/activists have been praising, making excuses for, for 8 months

who've all been starving, 6 months straight, lost count listening to the zealots, nightly, weekly, monthly, who've all died, then revised by the U.N.

video after video, showing those emaciated freedom fighters walking around in Gaza

the left, trying to pretend they are holding western values, like democracy, freedom of religion, women's rights, Gays rights, ect.....

yeah, ass backwards, Jews are Nazis now, University edumacated Lefties say so




the right has nothing on the left these days




the middle not standing up to the fringes on both sides is the real issue

the right in the U.S. doesn't have as much of a middle right now, but the left has a larger one

and they're not putting up much of a fight either

it's just sad Biden didn't pick a competent VP

instead of a woke POS, cause they could have replaced him, forced him out, they still can, if they had an alternative other than the idiot Harris

Trump will need to lose once again before they will finally turn on him

except they will probably, like the left, just replace both with a Trump like nut and another weak Dem leader who won't beat the zealots down


if either did, they'd win handily

there are more votes in the middle and those who don't vote than the zealots on the fringes who are sucking all the oxygen out of the room

with the help of the media on both sides
 

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Dude, in North America it's only one end of the political spectrum that's constantly attacking gays, people of colour, and women and their reproductive rights.

That's just what happens when you join cults lead by assholes.
 

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Well, I mean, he's beat you guys and three cpc leaders so far.

So maybe you're as ass-backwards about Trudeau's smarts as you are about Trump's.
Approximately 2/3 of Canadians didn't vote for the trust fund kid in the last election.

You can thank the British parliamentary system for Trudeau being in power.

He's a sanctimonious, condescending clown.
 
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It's really sad to see pro trump bashing the left calling them TDS, saying JB is old and senile bla bla bla... They should start talking about what Orange turd has really done to America if they're to make sense of what they are really talking about in the first place. People need to remember that during his watch, he caused the dead of million of people bcoz he refused to tell the people the truth of Covid. Can you imagine how many people that was? That could have been prevented. He added trillions of dollars to the national debt, that almost caused a recession but enriched himself. He made NATO weak and cuddled dictators like Putin, Kim, Xi, etc. I don't even understand what he is talking about in his made up rallies. He switches/changes his supposed stand on key issues as fast as he changes his clothes. Imagine taking credit for the abolition of Roe and then now flip flop about it. He has absolutely no principle and only think of what will benefit him instead of the people that he is supposed to serve. lies every single time he speaks. 10 things that he says, 11 are lies. File bankruptcy so many time not to mention trump university that victimized innocent people. I can go on and on and it will take weeks for me to be finished. Make no mistake, this man is a crook and a con and crazy. If he becomes president again, it will be a sad episode to America, and to the world.
Living proof that Mainstream Media propaganda works! But you did miss a few of their talking points....

Trump said that there will be a bloodbath if he loses the election!

Trump says you can drink or inject bleach to stop covid!

American soldiers are suckers and losers!

Trump says he will be a dictator from day 1!

By the way nobody was going to stop what happened with covid in the US where there are a lot of very unhealthy overweight people with all sorts of diseases among the over 70 age group where the vast majority of deaths occurred. 75% of the covid fatalities were among people who had one co morbidity and well over 50% had two or more....mostly hypertension, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, dementia. You even had one particular governor sending people into nursing homes with no covid checks which probably sealed the fates of many of the elderly who died in New York. Nobody knew where this disease was going when it first started. Yes when first discovered Trump said there was only one case and it was under control. A month later when it wasn't you had Democrats like Nancy Pelosi encouraging people to go to Chinatown for Chinese New Year and Bill Diblasio the mayor of New York telling people to go and support outside events while calling a ban on China travel racist. We were lied to about herd immunity, masking, vaccine efficacy, personal distancing, origins, mandates and many other things mainly by the NIH and Fauci. So there is a lot of blame to go around worldwide regarding covid. Nobody got it right except maybe Sweden and Florida so dont try to dump it on one guy.
 

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:ROFLMAO: Florida = full old , sick people and a Govoner who cooked his stats

Sweden = 77% vaccination rate , lots of paid sick days, and a populace smart enough not yo mingle if they're feeling ill. Also a good education system.Socialist.
 
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Living proof that Mainstream Media propaganda works! But you did miss a few of their talking points....

Trump said that there will be a bloodbath if he loses the election!

Trump says you can drink or inject bleach to stop covid!

American soldiers are suckers and losers!

Trump says he will be a dictator from day 1!

By the way nobody was going to stop what happened with covid in the US where there are a lot of very unhealthy overweight people with all sorts of diseases among the over 70 age group where the vast majority of deaths occurred. 75% of the covid fatalities were among people who had one co morbidity and well over 50% had two or more....mostly hypertension, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, dementia. You even had one particular governor sending people into nursing homes with no covid checks which probably sealed the fates of many of the elderly who died in New York. Nobody knew where this disease was going when it first started. Yes when first discovered Trump said there was only one case and it was under control. A month later when it wasn't you had Democrats like Nancy Pelosi encouraging people to go to Chinatown for Chinese New Year and Bill Diblasio the mayor of New York telling people to go and support outside events while calling a ban on China travel racist. We were lied to about herd immunity, masking, vaccine efficacy, personal distancing, origins, mandates and many other things mainly by the NIH and Fauci. So there is a lot of blame to go around worldwide regarding covid. Nobody got it right except maybe Sweden and Florida so dont try to dump it on one guy.
Good point about covid. Even up to now, there isn't a clear indication where the virus came from or if the vaccine is really the solution or herb immunity, or whatever. But trump downplayed it. He was the POTUS and it was incumbent upon him to tell the truth and let the people make their own choices. Those lies contributed immensely to the worsening of the situation during that time, in the states and partly in other parts of the world.. Like magic it will go away, etc etc. Those words caused lives. People died of covid whether we want to admit it or not. Whether these people have pre existing conditions or not, the facts is clear that the common denominator was covid. We may or may not believed what really happen, with so many conspiracy theories about covid at that time. but if trump can't help solve the problem, at least he shouldn't be part of the problem.
 
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thevalleydude

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:ROFLMAO: Florida = full old , sick people and a Govoner who cooked his stats

Sweden = 77% vaccination rate , lots of paid sick days, and a populace smart enough not yo mingle if they're feeling ill. Also a good education system.Socialist.
Sweden did not have lockdowns, schools remained open and childrens education not interrupted, there were no masking orders, most businesses remained open, social distancing was recommended but not enforced and their rates of suicide and domestic abuse were far lower but their deaths were lower than most other countries in Europe and the US.

Im not sure what your response has to do with anything but Florida was 12 among the states in death rate but its because it is full of old sick people moreso than virtually any other state and they were the main targets of covid.
 

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Good point about covid. Even up to now, there isn't a clear indication where the virus came from or if the vaccine is really the solution or herb immunity, or whatever. But trump downplayed it. He was the POTUS and it was incumbent upon him to tell the truth and let the people make their own choices. Those lies contributed immensely to the worsening of the situation during that time, in the states and partly in other parts of the world.. Like magic it will go away, etc etc. Those words caused lives. People died of covid whether we want to admit it or not. Whether these people have pre existing conditions or not, the facts is clear that the common denominator was covid. We may or may not believed what really happen, with so many conspiracy theories about covid at that time. but if trump can't help solve the problem, at least he shouldn't be part of the problem.
Disagree. It was incumbent on Trump not to cause the nation to panic and maintain some semblance of calm. Even as it was within a few days most stores were cleaned out of virtually all saleable grocery products and toilet paper as people panicked anyways. On March 8/2020 I walked into an Albertsons in Las Vegas and people were wearing masks and panic buying virtually everything off the shelf except canned Lentils and organic shit.

The worst thing he could have done was scream....OMG WERE ALL GOING TO DIE....HIDE INSIDE YOUR HOUSES UNTIL I TELL YOU ITS OK TO COME OUT!



OK thats an exaggeration but rather than take the opportunity to become a dictator when he really could have , he passed authority for covid to the individual states and relied on Fauci for information, which was mostly blatantly wrong. Had Fauci listened to some of the dissenting epidemiologists and concentrated on isolating those who were most at risk from the disease it might not have been as bad as it was for the elderly, but rather than listen to the advice Fauci had it censored by big tech and media and treated those who had suggested that this might be a better method than mandates and lockdowns like lepers. In fact for children this disease was less deadly than the annual influenza and the lockdowns retarded both their education and thier ability to learn to socialize with others for two years. We may be paying for that later.

Again I point to what the Democrats were saying even as the disease was blatantly spreading across the country which you blatantly ignored. They were also screaming at Trump for being a racist for banning flights to and from China.

Its well known exactly where the virus originated. Stop trying to pretend that its still a mystery.
 

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Sweden did not have lockdowns, schools remained open and childrens education not interrupted, there were no masking orders, most businesses remained open, social distancing was recommended but not enforced and their rates of suicide and domestic abuse were far lower but their deaths were lower than most other countries in Europe and the US.

Im not sure what your response has to do with anything but Florida was 12 among the states in death rate but its because it is full of old sick people moreso than virtually any other state and they were the main targets of covid.
The main targets of Covid? Thats that happens when you let the virus spread. People die. It wasnt some random occurance.
 

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The main targets of Covid? Thats that happens when you let the virus spread. People die. It wasnt some random occurance.
It was established very early on that the virus originated in Wuhan China.

Some people (the smart ones) said maybe we shouldn't be allowing people from China to enter our country until we figure this out.

What was the reaction of many top Democrats and their friends in the media?

Outrageous!

Xenophobia!

Racism!

So a bad situation was made a lot worse.

This will come as news to you because you are notoriously uninformed.
 
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LLLurkJ2

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It was established very early on that the virus originated in Wuhan China.

Some people (the smart ones) said maybe we shouldn't be allowing people from China to enter our country until we figure this out.

What was the reaction of many top Democrats and their friends in the media?

Outrageous!

Xenophobia!

Racism!

So a bad situation was made a lot worse.

This will come as news to you because you are notoriously uninformed.
I actually said they should have shut down all travel, and stop forcing essential barristas into work
 

Drjohn

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I actually said they should have shut down all travel, and stop forcing essential barristas into work
You have the uncanny ability to be wrong about pretty much everything.

I don't know how you do it.

Points for consistency, I guess.
 

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Meh, most of America suffers too much from delusions of Granduer like you to have expected them to deal with a contagen sensibly. The next time around, no lessons will have been learned and twice the people will die off because some twat thinks they have a right to go to Costco to get a deal even though they have a sore throat. But hey they can always point at China while they're dying.
 

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You people have had a pretty Mod free interaction in this thread. I enjoy a good debate based upon the issues. Bickering is not a debate tactic, it just makes people not want to deal with you.

Use some self control and cut with the BS.
 
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se7landrover97

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You people have had a pretty Mod free interaction in this thread. I enjoy a good debate based upon the issues. Bickering is not a debate tactic, it just makes people not want to deal with you.

Use some self control and cut with the BS.
Exactly, I believe when you want to have a discussion about politics, one needs to be very open minded and cordial. Not all our views are the same. Some may agree and some may not. We all should agree to disagree. It's very difficult to insist that we are right and you are wrong. Everyone should understand that these are just opinions that we are entitled to have and share. If my views are wrong, it doesn't mean that yours are right either. I hope people should keep that in mind.
 
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