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angry anderson

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Not my thoughts, cribbed from a post elsewhere, but the pattern fits and it's as likely as any other explanation.

*DARK MAGA*

If you're a little confused about what Musk is trying to achieve with DOGE, here's the breakdown:

Elon Musk and Peter Thiel cofounded a company that became PayPal.

Other executives at PayPal went on to found or lead other huge tech companies including YouTube, LinkedIn, Reddit, Affirm, and many VC firms.

This group became known as the PayPal mafia because they basically controlled Silicon Valley.

Peter Thiel mentored a young JD Vance and helped him get set up in his first VC firm.

Peter Thiel and the PayPal mafia funded JD Vance's successful Senate run. Amazing because he had absolutely zero political experience.

Thiel and Musk all but forced Trump to choose JD Vance as VP in exchange for funding his presidential campaign.

The three of them, plus a lot of other tech billionaires subscribe to an ideology called the Dark Enlightenment espoused by this super weird, creepy dude: Curtis Yarvin aka Mencius Moldbug.

Yarvin preaches that the media and academia represent "The Cathedral" that secretly controls power and must be dismantled.

He advocates for a corporate run, monarchy, led by a CEO-Dictator.

Says that Democracy is an "outdated software" and openly opposes it and that:
- Government agencies should be dismantled and The U.S. should be broken up into "patchworks" controlled by tech oligarchs.
- That the elite tech billionaires should rule because they have the intelligence to "fix" society
- That the "masses are asses" too dumb to govern themselves.

The strategy is to gut the government via R.A.G.E - Retire All Govt Employees to make government incapable of operating.

Then to replace government with private corporations.

To eliminate elections because they are "obsolete"

To use distraction and chaos to prevent public resistance.

Trump is their useful tool to be disposed of as soon as they can wrest control.

This is why Elon wears a black MAGA hat. They are not Trump supporters, they are "Dark MAGA"

This isn't a hypothetical. The plan is already in motion:
- Musk, Thiel, and their network are actively dismantling democratic institutions.
- JD Vance, the “MAGA heir,” is being positioned to help implement this transition.
- The public is too distracted to realize what’s happening.
- If successful, democracy in America will be permanently replaced by a corporate-run authoritarian state.
Thank God! I was worried they were up to no good.
 
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westwoody

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How do you figure? Not caring about kidnapped Ukrainian kids seems to be lacking in empathy.
Anyone who has a family, children, nieces, nephews would agree.
Sociobiology would argue that empathy is a key evolutionary advantage for any species.
Musk knows nothing about science.
He only knows self-promotion.
 

masterpoonhunter

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Watched the Joan Baez documentary/biopic movie on Prime the other day and seeing and being reminded of the early civil rights marches and protests had me thinking. Could that happen again? Sure the Magats, Fascists and Nazis would do whatever they could to shut this down but this kind of ground swell revolution seems to be something that could be coming. Uglier and more deadly though ...

Mind you the youth of today are not like the ones of that time are they ...
 

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Elons claims about empathy, should not be taken seriously by anyone.

While Asperger's Syndrome (now classified as part of the Autism Spectrum Disorder) was once thought to cause a lack of empathy, research suggests that individuals with Asperger's may experience empathy differently, potentially with difficulties in cognitive empathy (understanding others' emotions) but not necessarily affective empathy (feeling others' emotions).
 
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Elons claims about empathy, should not be taken seriously by anyone.

While Asperger's Syndrome (now classified as part of the Autism Spectrum Disorder) was once thought to cause a lack of empathy, research suggests that individuals with Asperger's may experience empathy differently, potentially with difficulties in cognitive empathy (understanding others' emotions) but not necessarily affective empathy (feeling others' emotions).
People with Asperger or Autism might not have the same triggers as what an average person would expect them to have but having a few Asperger/autistic members in my family; they are as sensitive and empathetic as any . ( Sometimes overly sensitive without showing it or being vocal about it )

They will express their feelings differently or use a vocabulary that might seem to be disconnected at first but will explain it with time or in time if not pressed....if you give them a chance. In the case of Musk his arrogance and superiority complex become a barrier ...once he says something that pops out of his head he believes that it's true and he doesn't back down ( problem is that it's for the whole world to see ) Since he is a Maga mascot with his followers agreeing about almost everything he says ; that becomes problematic.
 
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ChromeGasCap

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Empathy has to do with the perception of what others are feeling or are going through.
It's not about self.
 
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masterpoonhunter

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Elons claims about empathy, should not be taken seriously by anyone.

While Asperger's Syndrome (now classified as part of the Autism Spectrum Disorder) was once thought to cause a lack of empathy, research suggests that individuals with Asperger's may experience empathy differently, potentially with difficulties in cognitive empathy (understanding others' emotions) but not necessarily affective empathy (feeling others' emotions).
Well whatever he has he is a fucking cunt.
 

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I think Elon Musk should be commended for his part in bringing those two stranded astronauts home from being stranded in space for so long. Why did the Biden administration not do their duty and bring them home earlier?
 

ChromeGasCap

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Musk shouldn't get any accolade, SpaceX should.
The pairs extended stay was unforeseen, and rocket trips are planned and scheduled, as it takes months to prepare for a trip.
The return home was as soon as they could make accomadation, so lets not make this political.
 

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I think Elon Musk should be commended for his part in bringing those two stranded astronauts home from being stranded in space for so long. Why did the Biden administration not do their duty and bring them home earlier?
To be clear about this, they were not stranded. Actual astronauts such as Senator Mark Kelly have been saying this all along but Trump’s PR machine and Musk keep misleading people. There are always 2 emergency escape modules at the ISS which could used to bring the entire crew home at any time, but the decision was made that this did not warrant their use as long everyone remained safe and healthy. The two people in question agreed with this decision.

https://www.space.com/space-explora...astronauts-nasa-and-the-astronauts-dont-agree
 

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I think Elon Musk should be commended for his part in bringing those two stranded astronauts home from being stranded in space for so long. Why did the Biden administration not do their duty and bring them home earlier?
From what I heard the Biden administration started planning to bring them back in August. You don’t just go jump in a rocket, turn the key and away you go.
 

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I think Elon Musk should be commended for his part in bringing those two stranded astronauts home from being stranded in space for so long. Why did the Biden administration not do their duty and bring them home earlier?
Read about it and you will have your answer without anyone's opinion piece .

Moving a crew down the flight order is cheaper than sending another crew to replace them after a few weeks...and space x would have charged another 88 million dollars to NASA. Never stranded just a longer trip . They are use to it on top of knowing their odds of dying going to space is 5% or 1 chance out of 20 .
 

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I did not know perb leaned so much liberal/left. I would have guessed 50/50.


The lack of sun 8 months out of thr year is mind numbing to me. $$$$ is what it comes down to if I can leave this region. I have prayed to God to get me out of the PNW. Some can cope much better than others.
We could all chip in a few bucks and get you a bus ticket.
 
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