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jgg

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Not my thoughts, cribbed from a post elsewhere, but the pattern fits and it's as likely as any other explanation.

*DARK MAGA*

If you're a little confused about what Musk is trying to achieve with DOGE, here's the breakdown:

Elon Musk and Peter Thiel cofounded a company that became PayPal.

Other executives at PayPal went on to found or lead other huge tech companies including YouTube, LinkedIn, Reddit, Affirm, and many VC firms.

This group became known as the PayPal mafia because they basically controlled Silicon Valley.

Peter Thiel mentored a young JD Vance and helped him get set up in his first VC firm.

Peter Thiel and the PayPal mafia funded JD Vance's successful Senate run. Amazing because he had absolutely zero political experience.

Thiel and Musk all but forced Trump to choose JD Vance as VP in exchange for funding his presidential campaign.

The three of them, plus a lot of other tech billionaires subscribe to an ideology called the Dark Enlightenment espoused by this super weird, creepy dude: Curtis Yarvin aka Mencius Moldbug.

Yarvin preaches that the media and academia represent "The Cathedral" that secretly controls power and must be dismantled.

He advocates for a corporate run, monarchy, led by a CEO-Dictator.

Says that Democracy is an "outdated software" and openly opposes it and that:
- Government agencies should be dismantled and The U.S. should be broken up into "patchworks" controlled by tech oligarchs.
- That the elite tech billionaires should rule because they have the intelligence to "fix" society
- That the "masses are asses" too dumb to govern themselves.

The strategy is to gut the government via R.A.G.E - Retire All Govt Employees to make government incapable of operating.

Then to replace government with private corporations.

To eliminate elections because they are "obsolete"

To use distraction and chaos to prevent public resistance.

Trump is their useful tool to be disposed of as soon as they can wrest control.

This is why Elon wears a black MAGA hat. They are not Trump supporters, they are "Dark MAGA"

This isn't a hypothetical. The plan is already in motion:
- Musk, Thiel, and their network are actively dismantling democratic institutions.
- JD Vance, the “MAGA heir,” is being positioned to help implement this transition.
- The public is too distracted to realize what’s happening.
- If successful, democracy in America will be permanently replaced by a corporate-run authoritarian state.
 

masterblaster

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I saw a video online yesterday of trump with Elon’s little nose picker kid going to the presidential helicopter. When they got to it trump lifted the kid on to the stairs and then tripped on the first step as he went to go up them.
Odd that no coverage of this, if it would have been Joe Biden all the red hat dummies would have been laughing themselves sick over it.
 

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Not my thoughts, cribbed from a post elsewhere, but the pattern fits and it's as likely as any other explanation.

*DARK MAGA*

If you're a little confused about what Musk is trying to achieve with DOGE, here's the breakdown:

Elon Musk and Peter Thiel cofounded a company that became PayPal.

Other executives at PayPal went on to found or lead other huge tech companies including YouTube, LinkedIn, Reddit, Affirm, and many VC firms.

This group became known as the PayPal mafia because they basically controlled Silicon Valley.

Peter Thiel mentored a young JD Vance and helped him get set up in his first VC firm.

Peter Thiel and the PayPal mafia funded JD Vance's successful Senate run. Amazing because he had absolutely zero political experience.

Thiel and Musk all but forced Trump to choose JD Vance as VP in exchange for funding his presidential campaign.

The three of them, plus a lot of other tech billionaires subscribe to an ideology called the Dark Enlightenment espoused by this super weird, creepy dude: Curtis Yarvin aka Mencius Moldbug.

Yarvin preaches that the media and academia represent "The Cathedral" that secretly controls power and must be dismantled.

He advocates for a corporate run, monarchy, led by a CEO-Dictator.

Says that Democracy is an "outdated software" and openly opposes it and that:
- Government agencies should be dismantled and The U.S. should be broken up into "patchworks" controlled by tech oligarchs.
- That the elite tech billionaires should rule because they have the intelligence to "fix" society
- That the "masses are asses" too dumb to govern themselves.

The strategy is to gut the government via R.A.G.E - Retire All Govt Employees to make government incapable of operating.

Then to replace government with private corporations.

To eliminate elections because they are "obsolete"

To use distraction and chaos to prevent public resistance.

Trump is their useful tool to be disposed of as soon as they can wrest control.

This is why Elon wears a black MAGA hat. They are not Trump supporters, they are "Dark MAGA"

This isn't a hypothetical. The plan is already in motion:
- Musk, Thiel, and their network are actively dismantling democratic institutions.
- JD Vance, the “MAGA heir,” is being positioned to help implement this transition.
- The public is too distracted to realize what’s happening.
- If successful, democracy in America will be permanently replaced by a corporate-run authoritarian state.
That is just ANARCHY!!
 

PuntMeister

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That is just ANARCHY!!
Finally! A utopian state where I don’t have to ever see Woopie or Oprah again! OMG, bring on the football, beer, and monster truck rallies 4-EvR.
 

masterblaster

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Saw a video today of some teslas in a lot of in Las Vegas that had been set on fire. Lots of protests against against doge and musk. Think trump and musk miscalculated about people just rolling over and accepting their crazed plan to just cut jobs without any forethought.
 
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Harmony-bc

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Saw a video today of some teslas in a lot of in Las Vegas that had been set on fire. Lots of protests against against doge and musk. Think trump and musk miscalculated about people just rolling over and accepting their crazed plan to just cut jobs without any forethought.
it’s a bad idea to treat government like a hostile business take over
 

ChromeGasCap

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That is just ANARCHY!!
Worse than ANARCHY!!

It becomes the Large and Powerful Corporations who have their way with less powerful.
A lot like slavery in the US; the slavers were the cotton plantation owners (the all powerful of the day).
except that all less powerful will essentially be enslaved, regardless of colour or creed.
 
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carvesg

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I saw a video online yesterday of trump with Elon’s little nose picker kid going to the presidential helicopter. When they got to it trump lifted the kid on to the stairs and then tripped on the first step as he went to go up them.
Odd that no coverage of this, if it would have been Joe Biden all the red hat dummies would have been laughing themselves sick over it.
I tried to find that video on YouTube or wide search on Google to no avail. The Irish Times and Hindustan times talk about it but it has been wiped off the face of the earth it seems.
The American constitution first amendment does not seem to be relevant anymore as even the big networks and web platforms are censoring what is being released for streaming. They had no problem showing Biden blabbing or walking with hesitation....strange time we are leaving in . Same with all the protests that are not reported, we now have a slight sense of what the arab spring must have felt like between people following Twitter vs people listening to government medias or censored.
 
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westwoody

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I tried to find that video on YouTube or wide search on Google to no avail. The Irish Times and Hindustan times talk about it but it has been wiped off the face of the earth it seems.
It was on twit yesterday but now I can’t find it 🤬
 
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GeeBeeP

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I tried to find that video on YouTube or wide search on Google to no avail. The Irish Times and Hindustan times talk about it but it has been wiped off the face of the earth it seems.
The American constitution first amendment does not seem to be relevant anymore as even the big networks and web platforms are censoring what is being released for streaming. They had no problem showing Biden blabbing or walking with hesitation....strange time we are leaving in . Same with all the protests that are not reported, we now have a slight sense of what the arab spring must have felt like between people following Twitter vs people listening to government medias or censored.
I found this using a UK VPN, It’s about 50 seconds in to the vid. Heart warming my ass.

 

marsvolta

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the full subjugation of all levers of power by the Trump administration is in full swing! whooeee!

now that the federal government and congress have been completely dominated... time to address the last branch of government, the judiciary.

here is the plan... create a narrative that will have wide support. specifically, "foreign gang members who rape and murder US citizens need to be extradited immediately!". then start implementing without due process thus contravening the law.

Judge gives Trump administration 1 more day to turn over deportation flight info

a bunch of men were arrested and quickly labelled murdering gang members, put on a plane and then transported to a high security prison in El Salvador where no one will have access to them. court documents already provide that these are "alleged" gang members and "alleged" criminals. it is convenient that no one will be able to ever contact them again to determine whether this is true or not.

now, attack the judiciary for asking questions. ignore the judiciary claiming that this is a prime example of why the judiciary should be ignored in future. subjugate the last branch of government that stands in the way of absolute lawless tyranny.

should be fun!
 
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