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GentlemanJack69

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You appear as one of the more intelligent people on this site. However I seriously doubt the rest of of the world has lost respect for America, just the opposite is true. The hostages are being released “before all hell” would break out. I doubt that occurred prior to the oath of office due to a coincidence. After the President of Columbia shot off his mouth, Trump spoke and Columbia immediately capitulated. A UFC fighter doesn’t enter the ring to play nice. Fear is respect! After Biden, Blinkin and Austin said, “don’t “, The terrorists laughed. After Obama drew a redline in the sand, it was crossed and the world laughed. Weakness does not command respect. Political norms are being broken. You can babble about holding hands and singing Kumbaya all you want, but in the end, results will not occur. Trump is giving the world time to adjust , otherwise he could have acted immediately. Morality and ethics have nothing to do with trade agreements, every country has its own interests in mind and trade agreements are business. Most Americans expect Trump to make the best agreement possible. If it costs jobs in another country, not my problem. If you bid on a house, do you want to get the best price possible, or do kick in an extra 100k to be nice? Trump must rock the boat to get their attention. Otherwise, countries will laugh and draw out negotiations. I buy land and develop commercial buildings. When I negotiate contracts, I do not think about fairness, I think about profit margin. I believe you are the person whom previously indicated you are some type of financial planner. You teach financially uneducated people things they should have had the motivation at a young age to teach themselves. I suspect most of your clients are already in trouble. Hopefully you do not teach contact negotiation!
Trump has 18 months before the midterms and if he cannot fulfill his promises, he will lose the house a senate. He has no time to hold hands and sing.
You're correct that politics and negotiation can be cutthroat especially in business,.. but some of your statements are surprisingly narrow minded. "Fear is respect" is one example. Fear isn't respect. That should be self-evident. Fear is a tool that should be used with caution. you can accomplish much with fear but overuse leads to backlash. If you push someone into a corner and they don't see a way out, even the smallest quietest mouse will bite and bite viciously. Another truism you may want to consider that i antithetical to Trump politics are "you catch more flies with honey".

The other factor that seems to be completely missing from your consideration is the effect this has on the American people. Tariffs and trade wars have consequences. I'm pretty sure that you're smart enough to understand that although other countries are impacted economically tariffs that disrupt their normal trade practices, it is in reality the citizens of the country employing the tariff that pays them making life much more difficult for, in this case, Americans. The last time Trump tried the Tariff route many Americans greatly suffered from the effects. Nobody wins in a trade war.

Needless to say I disagree with your belief that the rest of the world has lost respect for America, and the opposite being true. For quite some time the USA has had two faces to the world. The first is the champion of freedom, liberty, strength and equality for all "the American Dream". The America we can respect. The second is greedy, capitalistic, self centered, egotistical, corporate rapists willing to do anything for a dollar. That's the America we fear. Trump epitomizes the second face of the USA. People may Fear the Trump USA, but they don't Respect it.
Have you ever travelled outside the USA/Canada/Mexico? I've always gotten much better service when I tell them that I'm not American but Canadian. Some countries really do like Americans a lot,... but that's nowhere near universal as many countries view Americans as ignorant, entitled bullies. That viewpoint is being enhanced by Trump.

Canada has always been willing to work with our friends and neighbours in the USA. We're happy to help. We generally like Americans. Just look at the Canadian water planes that have been sent down to help fight the fires in LA as an example. But push comes to shove Trump has the ability to flush all that goodwill down the toilet. I am fairly certain that if Mara Lago was on fire you'd get a somewhat poorer showing. Might get a few volunteers to piss on it. (perhaps that's unfairly said because we would probably still help - but you understand the sentiment).

Cheers.
 

GentlemanJack69

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Hahaha…there is that pride. Dude, you obviously don’t understand money. Why do you think the CAD is so weak against the USD? It is basic economics, go to school and get an education……not in art. If you cut taxes and increase tariffs, it pays off debt. The President of Columbia just learned that lesson! He was all talk until Trump knocked him out. There are many more economic weapons than just tariffs, ask Columbia!
I thought American schools were bad, but this is just basic stuff!
If you cut taxes you will decrease the amount of funds that a country has to pay down their debt... you will also potentially increase the cash flow in the economy producing additional lower amounts in taxes that could offset that effect, but this is by no means certain. Tariffs are basically a tax on Americans purchasing goods from another country. This will increase the amount of funds that a country will have to pay their debt but will have the effect of increasing the cost of goods and raising inflation having a dampening effect on the economy and causing hardship for average citizens.
The relationship between currency rates is based on the supply and demand for those currencies and is only tangentially related to the strength of their respective economies. The Bank of Canada carefully monitors the exchange and quite often will take action to reduce the value of our dollar in relation to the USD because it is beneficial to our economy to keep it lower thus encouraging greater commerce between our countries. Maybe not basic economics 101.. pretty sure it might be economics 202 but you get the point. Things are much more complicated than that but the basics are there. American schools are apparently bad.. you were right.
 

Motorman

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You're correct that politics and negotiation can be cutthroat especially in business,.. but some of your statements are surprisingly narrow minded. "Fear is respect" is one example. Fear isn't respect. That should be self-evident. Fear is a tool that should be used with caution. you can accomplish much with fear but overuse leads to backlash. If you push someone into a corner and they don't see a way out, even the smallest quietest mouse will bite and bite viciously. Another truism you may want to consider that i antithetical to Trump politics are "you catch more flies with honey".

The other factor that seems to be completely missing from your consideration is the effect this has on the American people. Tariffs and trade wars have consequences. I'm pretty sure that you're smart enough to understand that although other countries are impacted economically tariffs that disrupt their normal trade practices, it is in reality the citizens of the country employing the tariff that pays them making life much more difficult for, in this case, Americans. The last time Trump tried the Tariff route many Americans greatly suffered from the effects. Nobody wins in a trade war.

Needless to say I disagree with your belief that the rest of the world has lost respect for America, and the opposite being true. For quite some time the USA has had two faces to the world. The first is the champion of freedom, liberty, strength and equality for all "the American Dream". The America we can respect. The second is greedy, capitalistic, self centered, egotistical, corporate rapists willing to do anything for a dollar. That's the America we fear. Trump epitomizes the second face of the USA. People may Fear the Trump USA, but they don't Respect it.
Have you ever travelled outside the USA/Canada/Mexico? I've always gotten much better service when I tell them that I'm not American but Canadian. Some countries really do like Americans a lot,... but that's nowhere near universal as many countries view Americans as ignorant, entitled bullies. That viewpoint is being enhanced by Trump.

Canada has always been willing to work with our friends and neighbours in the USA. We're happy to help. We generally like Americans. Just look at the Canadian water planes that have been sent down to help fight the fires in LA as an example. But push comes to shove Trump has the ability to flush all that goodwill down the toilet. I am fairly certain that if Mara Lago was on fire you'd get a somewhat poorer showing. Might get a few volunteers to piss on it. (perhaps that's unfairly said because we would probably still help - but you understand the sentiment).

Cheers.
When I go to a restaurant and want good service, I immediately had the server a 20 dollar bill and say, keep our glasses full. I have actually been to 17 countries and my blue passport was always well respected. This is what you don’t get, the US does not need Canada…..Canada needs us. Do you see commercials on TV paid for by American tax dollars that attempt to convince viewers America is great for Canadian jobs? Every night we are bombarded by that crap…..which is paid by Canadians! I agree it will be better if our countries get along and work out an equal trade agreement, but if we do not, Canadians will suffer much more than Americans. Canada is already on the edge of a recession! I develop small commercial projects and I learned to strike when the iron is hot. If a property owner is hurting, low bid it. I don’t care if the owner and I are friends, I don’t care if the owner is forced into bankruptcy, I care about profit. It is the property owners problem if he mismanaged his money. I only care about my wallet! That is business and that is the way Trump is running his administration. Being nice does not pay bills!
 

Motorman

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When I go to a restaurant and want good service, I immediately had the server a 20 dollar bill and say, keep our glasses full. I have actually been to 17 countries and my blue passport was always well respected. This is what you don’t get, the US does not need Canada…..Canada needs us. Do you see commercials on TV paid for by American tax dollars that attempt to convince viewers America is great for Canadian jobs? Every night we are bombarded by that crap…..which is paid by Canadians! I agree it will be better if our countries get along and work out an equal trade agreement, but if we do not, Canadians will suffer much more than Americans. Canada is already on the edge of a recession! I develop small commercial projects and I learned to strike when the iron is hot. If a property owner is hurting, low bid it. I don’t care if the owner and I are friends, I don’t care if the owner is forced into bankruptcy, I care about profit. It is the property owners problem if he mismanaged his money. Currency is the litmus test of the strength of an economy. You come to America, everything will cost you 33% more, I go to Canada, everything is on sale at 33% off. Imports work identically. I only care about my wallet! That is business and that is the way Trump is running his administration. Being nice does not pay bills!
 

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Motorman

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Have you checked the DXY lately?
I am very familiar with the DXY. A currency weakness is gauged by a bunch of things, but fluctuations tell the story. The CAD has dropped as low as 61, twice, just on Trump rhetoric. It is fragile, which is a sign of great weakness. Your economy is on a downward trajectory, which gives Trump a Royal Flush. That is a huge indicator. Historically it has been almost 1 to 1. I just lowered a buy order to 55. I know when Canadians wise up and they will vote out liberals, the CAD will recover, which is when I will sell. People can only take a limited amount of hardship and I believe the March election will tell which way Canada go. Most do not realize that tariffs are a tax on buyers. Conversely, if cars from Canada are more expensive, Americans will buy elsewhere. That will cost Canadian jobs, which equal less tax collected and more demand for welfare. It is a dark hole I believe educated people do not want to experience.
 

VanCityNewb

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Hahaha…there is that pride. Dude, you obviously don’t understand money. Why do you think the CAD is so weak against the USD? It is basic economics, go to school and get an education……not in art. If you cut taxes and increase tariffs, it pays off debt. The President of Columbia just learned that lesson! He was all talk until Trump knocked him out. There are many more economic weapons than just tariffs, ask Columbia!
I thought American schools were bad, but this is just basic stuff!
I'm still not Canadian.

And Trump's tariffs already failed so hard the last time he tried them, that it led to unexpected subsidies to those affected by them (free money), that cost US tax payers more than the budget for NASA, building all of the ships for the Navy, or the budget for the entire Department of State:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuart...-to-farmers-cost-more-than-us-nuclear-forces/

And that's only for farmers!

Which is why people make fun of him and his supporters so much on this topic. Economists already know and understand that they don't work well, in the fashion he wants to implement them, and that he's lying about what they do to the economy. Not only do they already know that, everyone has already seen the effects in realtime. They don't do much of anything to help the economy or the budget, because domestic industry gets decimated, and the budget further blows up when the government has to backtrack and give out free money to those industries that they've greatly reduced profits for.

Even the economists that Trump is citing to support his tariffs, will tell you he's fucking insanely off his rocker and doesn't understand their work or what he's talking about:

https://ls.berkeley.edu/news/very-bad-idea-two-economists-respond-white-house-citing-them-20-tariffs

And, what apparently everyone else already knew, as previously explained to you, Democrats are the only ones who ever start to reduce the deficit, instead of increasing it:
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Oh, and since that ends at 2019, check out the far right of the graph that goes into 2020, and Trump's final term:
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So again, anybody who knows anything already knows that his idiotic hairball ideas don't work. And even if you don't know anything about these topics, you can still look at the effects from his first presidency:

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...owth-was-the-worst-since-the-great-depression
 

Motorman

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I'm still not Canadian.

And Trump's tariffs already failed so hard the last time he tried them, that it led to unexpected subsidies to those affected by them (free money), that cost US tax payers more than the budget for NASA, building all of the ships for the Navy, or the budget for the entire Department of State:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuart...-to-farmers-cost-more-than-us-nuclear-forces/

And that's only for farmers!

Which is why people make fun of him and his supporters so much on this topic. Economists already know and understand that they don't work well, in the fashion he wants to implement them, and that he's lying about what they do to the economy. Not only do they already know that, everyone has already seen the effects in realtime. They don't do much of anything to help the economy or the budget, because domestic industry gets decimated, and the budget further blows up when the government has to backtrack and give out free money to those industries that they've greatly reduced profits for.

Even the economists that Trump is citing to support his tariffs, will tell you he's fucking insanely off his rocker and doesn't understand their work or what he's talking about:

https://ls.berkeley.edu/news/very-bad-idea-two-economists-respond-white-house-citing-them-20-tariffs

And, what apparently everyone else already knew, as previously explained to you, Democrats are the only ones who ever start to reduce the deficit, instead of increasing it:
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Oh, and since that ends at 2019, check out the far right of the graph that goes into 2020, and Trump's final term:
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So again, anybody who knows anything already knows that his idiotic hairball ideas don't work. And even if you don't know anything about these topics, you can still look at the effects from his first presidency:

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...owth-was-the-worst-since-the-great-depression
I am positive SOME others on this forum will agree, it is impossible to debate stupid! Google is not in the business to educate stupid people. It uses algorithms based on search criteria. Google it😎
 

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Yes..
Depends, what side of the fence you're on. Example..under different administration.

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I am positive SOME others on this forum will agree, it is impossible to debate stupid! Google is not in the business to educate stupid people. It uses algorithms based on search criteria. Google it😎
 

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When I go to a restaurant and want good service, I immediately had the server a 20 dollar bill and say, keep our glasses full. I have actually been to 17 countries and my blue passport was always well respected. This is what you don’t get, the US does not need Canada…..Canada needs us. Do you see commercials on TV paid for by American tax dollars that attempt to convince viewers America is great for Canadian jobs? Every night we are bombarded by that crap…..which is paid by Canadians! I agree it will be better if our countries get along and work out an equal trade agreement, but if we do not, Canadians will suffer much more than Americans. Canada is already on the edge of a recession! I develop small commercial projects and I learned to strike when the iron is hot. If a property owner is hurting, low bid it. I don’t care if the owner and I are friends, I don’t care if the owner is forced into bankruptcy, I care about profit. It is the property owners problem if he mismanaged his money. I only care about my wallet! That is business and that is the way Trump is running his administration. Being nice does not pay bills!
A 20 ! You must get the best service ever.
 

VanCityNewb

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I am positive SOME others on this forum will agree, it is impossible to debate stupid! Google is not in the business to educate stupid people. It uses algorithms based on search criteria. Google it😎
Indeed. You can show some people all of the facts, graphs, data, science and professional opinions in the world, and they'll still come back with nothing but what lies Trump told them, and fifth grade personal insults. 👍
 

GentlemanJack69

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When I go to a restaurant and want good service, I immediately had the server a 20 dollar bill and say, keep our glasses full. I have actually been to 17 countries and my blue passport was always well respected. This is what you don’t get, the US does not need Canada…..Canada needs us. Do you see commercials on TV paid for by American tax dollars that attempt to convince viewers America is great for Canadian jobs? Every night we are bombarded by that crap…..which is paid by Canadians! I agree it will be better if our countries get along and work out an equal trade agreement, but if we do not, Canadians will suffer much more than Americans. Canada is already on the edge of a recession! I develop small commercial projects and I learned to strike when the iron is hot. If a property owner is hurting, low bid it. I don’t care if the owner and I are friends, I don’t care if the owner is forced into bankruptcy, I care about profit. It is the property owners problem if he mismanaged his money. I only care about my wallet! That is business and that is the way Trump is running his administration. Being nice does not pay bills!
The fallacy in your argument is not that Americans are respected internationally, it's that money is respected internationally. Of course you will get better service when you pay extra for it. That doesn't mean you're respected it just means that people want your money.
I've run into many Americans traveling abroad.. did you know that many of them have visible signs such as Canadian flags on their belongings, so that people think they're Canadian? You will always get good treatment if people think they can get a monetary advantage for it. You'll never find out if they spit in your food either.

You are correct that Canada economically needs the USA more than the USA needs Canada, but you're ignoring the fact that the actions Trump is taking are not good for Americans either. Sure Canada will suffer, probably more than the USA, but Americans will suffer too. You obviously don't care that the average American will be worse off if a trade war happens. The USA was arguably the greatest country on Earth... I'm not so sure that's true anymore.

Your debate style if very much like Trumps. You ignore the points made by your detractors as if they were never mentioned and simply reiterate over and over again your talking points. "Trump have big stick" "USA is the best" "Ha Ha You're all going to suffer" "I am wealthy and have much money" "you don't understand" "Art degree is useless" " Fear is respect"
Let me ask you some questions?
Did you / Would you go to Trump University?
Did you / Would you purchase Maga merchandise?
Did you / Would you contribute to the Trump campaign?
Did you / Would you buy Trump cryptocurrency?
Did you / Would you buy Trump Electronic trading cards?
Did you / Would you buy a Trump bible?
I'm interested to know the answers to those questions. I suspect that the answer to all of them is "No". I bet you're too smart to give money to a con man. Or am I giving you too much credit?

Interesting conversation anyway.
 

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I don't think the wingers understand that the Democratic administrations that followed the Bush and Trump administrations continued to rack up debt because...

THE HUGE FUCKING TAX CUTS BUSH AND TRUMP GAVE THE WEALTHY CONTINUED TO BE IN EFFECT...

and continued to require borrowing to compensate for reduced revenues . . .

because Bush and Trump cut taxes while increasing spending.

Math is hard for the right wing.
 

Motorman

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The fallacy in your argument is not that Americans are respected internationally, it's that money is respected internationally. Of course you will get better service when you pay extra for it. That doesn't mean you're respected it just means that people want your money.
I've run into many Americans traveling abroad.. did you know that many of them have visible signs such as Canadian flags on their belongings, so that people think they're Canadian? You will always get good treatment if people think they can get a monetary advantage for it. You'll never find out if they spit in your food either.

You are correct that Canada economically needs the USA more than the USA needs Canada, but you're ignoring the fact that the actions Trump is taking are not good for Americans either. Sure Canada will suffer, probably more than the USA, but Americans will suffer too. You obviously don't care that the average American will be worse off if a trade war happens. The USA was arguably the greatest country on Earth... I'm not so sure that's true anymore.

Your debate style if very much like Trumps. You ignore the points made by your detractors as if they were never mentioned and simply reiterate over and over again your talking points. "Trump have big stick" "USA is the best" "Ha Ha You're all going to suffer" "I am wealthy and have much money" "you don't understand" "Art degree is useless" " Fear is respect"
Let me ask you some questions?
Did you / Would you go to Trump University?
Did you / Would you purchase Maga merchandise?
Did you / Would you contribute to the Trump campaign?
Did you / Would you buy Trump cryptocurrency?
Did you / Would you buy Trump Electronic trading cards?
Did you / Would you buy a Trump bible?
I'm interested to know the answers to those questions. I suspect that the answer to all of them is "No". I bet you're too smart to give money to a con man. Or am I giving you too much credit?

Interesting conversation anyway.
I have a Trump flag and hat, I contributed $5k to his campaign and I flipped his crypto for an $11k profit.I don’t give a hoot if he sells pillows, I just want him to keep his promises. Obviously people are buying those products! You don’t understand, I am sick of my tax dollars getting spent elsewhere when they can be used to address America’s problems. Look at the comments written on this forum. Granted most are written by people that probably live check to check and do not understand fundamentals of currency, but they do not acknowledge how American tax dollars help support their way of life. Look at Panama, the idiot President must have forgotten about Manuel Noriega. My favorite is Mexico, the Mexican government allows aliens and drugs to flow into the US and then the President of the cartel nation shot off her mouth about the Gulf of America. Google Maps just announced they will change the name. Regardless what is Mexico going to do when MARSOC starts killing drug traffickers, something the Mexican government should have been doing. Look at WHO, the UN and ICC. 2 of the 3 have but cut off and will disappear. Hopefully the UN will as well. Now take NATO, until Trumps last term, only six countries put in 2% of their GDP, now only six do not, Canada is one that does not. American tax dollars almost fully fund those organizations and countries took advantage of it. Why doesn’t Canada support NATO? Because your government takes advantage of its geographical location and it will require billions of dollars. I don’t know where you travel, but I have never once noticed Canadian clothing in other countries. I just returned from Japan, Australia, Thailand, Vietnam and China……not once did I observe a maple leaf.
I agree, tariffs will cause prices to temporarily rise in America, until eggs and lumber are purchased elsewhere, which I hope Trump has already planned. The economy in Europe and Canada are close to a recession, China also isn’t doing very well, its real estate market is in the toilet. Japan floats in and out of a recession and recently recovered from 12 years of stagflation. Japan can’t even support its old people. Mexico will turn to dust without the billions generated from drug trafficking. South America is another mess and just trying to keep its head above water. Every one of those I mentioned will get hammered in a trade war. I’m talking jobs, not inflation and when jobs are lost, it will take years to recover. Justin is not stupid, which is the reason he flew to Florida. Yes, the government in countries that Trump identified as taking advantage of America are fearful, which to me is a great place for Trump to be. Remember business, it’s all about business. People all over the world speak the same language……money. It’s a much better tactic than war!
 

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I have a Trump flag and hat, I contributed $5k to his campaign and I flipped his crypto for an $11k profit.I don’t give a hoot if he sells pillows, I just want him to keep his promises.


past performance is a good indicator, he's only interested in himself

he doesn't care about you or keeping his promises, he already got what he wanted

he'll flip flop just like the hypocrite Liberals that are running for leader/pm right now

go read the list of the complete 180's they've done on policies they were all up on just weeks ago

he's the same, if it suits him this week, sure, next week, not so much

him, not you, him


you're going to have 2 years, likely the dems will take back the house

between now and then the courts will be busy

so chaos will be the promise he keeps, substance, real draining of the swamp, changing the gov't for the better

hardly

but his sycophants will spin it that he did what he said

your cult will buy it, just like the Tru-Anons did the Turds here

pretending he was the greatest

all cults are based on how gullible the bottom is

Trumpers, Liberals here, they're the same

Trump didn't drain the swamp, the Turd didn't do anything here either

all they did was drive up the debt to their own advantage

you need to stop drinking the koolaid
 
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I have a Trump flag and hat, I contributed $5k to his campaign and I flipped his crypto for an $11k profit.I don’t give a hoot if he sells pillows, I just want him to keep his promises. Obviously people are buying those products! You don’t understand, I am sick of my tax dollars getting spent elsewhere when they can be used to address America’s problems. Look at the comments written on this forum. Granted most are written by people that probably live check to check and do not understand fundamentals of currency, but they do not acknowledge how American tax dollars help support their way of life. Look at Panama, the idiot President must have forgotten about Manuel Noriega. My favorite is Mexico, the Mexican government allows aliens and drugs to flow into the US and then the President of the cartel nation shot off her mouth about the Gulf of America. Google Maps just announced they will change the name. Regardless what is Mexico going to do when MARSOC starts killing drug traffickers, something the Mexican government should have been doing. Look at WHO, the UN and ICC. 2 of the 3 have but cut off and will disappear. Hopefully the UN will as well. Now take NATO, until Trumps last term, only six countries put in 2% of their GDP, now only six do not, Canada is one that does not. American tax dollars almost fully fund those organizations and countries took advantage of it. Why doesn’t Canada support NATO? Because your government takes advantage of its geographical location and it will require billions of dollars. I don’t know where you travel, but I have never once noticed Canadian clothing in other countries. I just returned from Japan, Australia, Thailand, Vietnam and China……not once did I observe a maple leaf.
I agree, tariffs will cause prices to temporarily rise in America, until eggs and lumber are purchased elsewhere, which I hope Trump has already planned. The economy in Europe and Canada are close to a recession, China also isn’t doing very well, its real estate market is in the toilet. Japan floats in and out of a recession and recently recovered from 12 years of stagflation. Japan can’t even support its old people. Mexico will turn to dust without the billions generated from drug trafficking. South America is another mess and just trying to keep its head above water. Every one of those I mentioned will get hammered in a trade war. I’m talking jobs, not inflation and when jobs are lost, it will take years to recover. Justin is not stupid, which is the reason he flew to Florida. Yes, the government in countries that Trump identified as taking advantage of America are fearful, which to me is a great place for Trump to be. Remember business, it’s all about business. People all over the world speak the same language……money. It’s a much better tactic than war!
 

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