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US "Police" = Bloodthirsty Lunatics

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Absolute fucking psycho scumbags.
No doubt they will investigate themselves and find themselves innocent.
This was a wellness check yet these imbeciles fired FIFTY times before even talking to anyone. They just drive up and start shooting without trying to assess the situation. And then they handcuff the guy's mother.
Notice the piss poor weapon skills. Continuous fire without assessing the effect. Emptying their clips into a guy sitting in a truck.
Then they say "Shots fired". Yet they are the only ones shooting.
Total fucking assholes. Just scum.
US cop culture is toxic as hell.

 
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Jesus fucking Christ.
What absolute fucking scumbags.
No doubt they will investigate themselves and find themselves innocent.
This was a wellness check yet these imbeciles fired FIFTY times before even talking to anyone. They just drive up and start shooting without trying to assess the situation. And then they handcuff the guy's mother.
US cop culture is toxic as hell.

Calm voice on the radio "shots fired" lol. Understatement.
 

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It's basically impossible to have much respect for law enforcement anywhere at this point. The over the top cop worship on the news when one of them is injured or killed is a little much considering all the hard they do that only hits the news when a bystander takes a video. I try to have respect for law enforcement, I really do, but they do not earn it and ACAB isn't just a saying anymore, it's pretty much the truth everywhere, but in the US it's well past the point of absurdity. They know they are on camera and they just can't help themselves, the shithead in them just won't be denied.
 

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Absolute fucking psycho scumbags.
No doubt they will investigate themselves and find themselves innocent.
This was a wellness check yet these imbeciles fired FIFTY times before even talking to anyone. They just drive up and start shooting without trying to assess the situation. And then they handcuff the guy's mother.
Notice the piss poor weapon skills. Continuous fire without assessing the effect. Emptying their clips into a guy sitting in a truck.
Then they say "Shots fired". Yet they are the only ones shooting.
Total fucking assholes. Just scum.
US cop culture is toxic as hell.

I took the time to find out what really happened. It seems that the guy in the truck had a warrant out for his arrest. He was armed with a shotgun and pointed it at the officer.

I have no particular love for police. Some of them are assholes.

Facts matter though.

As far as "TYT" goes, I don't think it can be considered a "news" outlet.

Entertainment maybe, but not news.
 
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I worked in the police in Ohio for a few years.1) In the US most police officers don’t need much education to qualify, even less for sheriff’s and sheriff’s deputies. Most officers are not the brightest people. For example on one occasion a call went out from dispatch for a person smoking pot. Two other units who were not called by dispatch to respond raced to the scene and crashed head on into each other. Both police cars ($80k to $100k each) were totalled. 2) there is often a “man” culture in the police 3) the training given is grossly inadequate. 4) the training emphasizes that the job is dangerous, protect yourself, neutralize the threat immediately. 5) there is little to no training about de-escalation. 6) policing is seen as a task of enforcement of laws, not service to a community. 7) police are not trained on how to engage with their communities. They are trained that their job is to watch over their communities as protectors, not be part of them. 8) militarization of police is very troubling. 9) guns in America are a much bigger problem than mass shootings. Police are always on edge about how armed the people they are approaching are 10) and of course, race is definite factor in American policing.

About this video, I don’t know if the man in the truck was armed or not, but multiple cruiser racing towards me while I was taking to my mom and people with bulletproof vests coming out and shouting and drawing weapons would make me behave irrationally. I have no doubt, these policemen are complete imbeciles.
 

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If ever curioius about why some of this shit happens in the US versus, say here, do yourself a favour and go to a Canadian police service's website and check out the hiring criteria. Then go do the same and see what the criteria are in the US. They have VERY low entry requirements, the training is generally sub-standard and there is generally less oversite. I actually think it's amazing they don't have more issues than they do.

None of what I said negates problems here - because a university degree and lots of training doesn't mean you're not subject to the thin blue line mentality and all that bullshit. It's also one of the tougher jobs in the world and it's easy for us to sit back, watch and criticize without ever having walked a mile in their shoes. I wouldn't do that job for 10 times what I make now
 

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and lots of training
haha, guess you missed the comment on "facts matter"

9 months, you consider that to be "lots"

not to mention, there are plenty of cops in Canada who don't have a degree, nepotism is still alive and well here in our police forces, not to mention

who you know still helps getting a job, just like in the rest of society

lot's of training :rolleyes:

go talk to all the people who rejected for moronically ridiculous reasons, like not being able to do chin ups, cause I see a lot of cops doing them everyday in their jobs, don't you?

then look at some of the clowns they did hire

look at the stupid "physical" they are required to pass, at least the men, then wonder why 6 of them can't take one guy down?

and as for the US cops

they live in a culture with more guns than people, no healthcare system, no welfare system, at least not one that works well

there job is way more dangerous than Canada

where the most common way a cop dies, is in a car accident of their own making
 

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Are we becoming Numb to these acts because they happening too often? Or because there is never any real legal action to stop these outrageous acts?

My issue with incidents like these is when they happen nothing ever gets resolved, all involved are allowed to plead the 5th so they don’t incriminate against other officers or themselves. It’s like yah we killed them, sue me.

As long as police are permitted to get around the legal system by not being accountable to anyone other than themselves. The irony now is the cops displaying the Blue Line on their uniforms are being interpreted by many who encounter police as a Gang symbol. Thankfully the VPD have been told to remove blue line insignias immediately.

I would take away any immunity the police have when it’s found to be a wrongful shooting. Give them jail time and make their pensions pay for lawsuit payments.

There’s a good documentary on Netflix that is quite similar to what happened here.

137 Shots

The car driver and passenger were unarmed.

A car backfired while passing a Cleveland Police station. The posse mounted up and chased the backfiring vehicle to hunt down the occupants.

137 shots fired into the vehicle killing the occupants. One officer apparently fired more than 50 rounds into the car.

At the trial every officer pleaded the 5th about this incident. That really has to change to make the public know they are serious about fixing this problem.
 
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American cops are worse but Canadian cops aren't much better either. I haven't had interactions with law enforcement here much but just looking at videos and news stories, cops here have power tripping moments too.

When you give someone a position of power that also comes with little to no consequences if they abuse that power, then its just human nature for them to abuse that power and take advantage of the situation.

I am so close to being ACAB. I don't want to cause I have seen videos of police officers who actively engage in their communities in a positive way too so not all of them are bad but I would say majority of them are in someway or other.
 
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all involved are allowed to plead the 5th so they don’t incriminate against other officers[/QUOTE/]
In Winnipeg’s Crystal Taman case a drunk cop drove his car into hers and killed her. The attending cop actually stuck the drunk cop in his car to prevent anyone from seeing he was drunk.
Him and a bunch of buddies were all at a bar. Then the Winnipeg Police gang circled their wagons and dummied up.
“Yeah we were all at a bar but we didn’t see anyone drinking”.
You can sue them but it’s the taxpayer that pays. At best the cop gets a paid vacation “administrative leave” lol. In the US many cops who are fired simply move to another department.
137 Shots
Watch the cops in the video I posted, they empty their clips without looking to see if they hit anything. No trigger discipline and no accuracy.
 

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I for one have become numb to the mass shootings in the US.
There are so many, on such a high frequency, that I find any grieving for one, gets mudged into the next, the next and the next ad infinitum.
Cops, psychos, para military wacko's and just plain fucking shitbags. Too many to count.
And
No accountability.
It's just too fucked up.
 
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I can't find it on youtube but there was a favorite sketch of mine on Saturday night live, which I normally wouldn't watch. However it was Chevy Chase and another guy as cops. They burst into an apartment and shoot a guy to death. Then they say "stop or I'll shoot". Next scene they gun down somebody else and say to his corpse "you have the right to remain silent.
Not much of a stretch.
 
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Well there's nearly 400,000,000 guns on the US so I'm pretty numb to any gun violence that happens down there. I'd probably more surprised if they went a week without some newsworthy shootings.
Americans have guns because they are afraid of Americans who have guns.
 
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The United States of Merica....read the news, every day there is a different story unfolding.. everyday..I tell my wife, what if someone wrote a 365 page short story book every year..1 page a day for the story of the day..Texas.. neighbor kills 5 because they told him to stop shooting his guns..days later in Texas a mass shooting claims 8, and that same day a man drives into people in Texas killing 8..thats 21 bodies in 3 incidents..

There are 20,000 homicides in Merica every year..while only 5000 Merican soldiers died in 8 years in iraq? They are more dangerous to themselves than war in the middle east is to them. Thank about that.
 

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American cops are worse but Canadian cops aren't much better either. I haven't had interactions with law enforcement here much but just looking at videos and news stories, cops here have power tripping moments too.

When you give someone a position of power that also comes with little to no consequences if they abuse that power, then its just human nature for them to abuse that power and take advantage of the situation.

I am so close to being ACAB. I don't want to cause I have seen videos of police officers who actively engage in their communities in a positive way too so not all of them are bad but I would say majority of them are in someway or other.
It is grossly inaccurate to generalize about all Canadian cops. That's like saying all Vancouver escorts are [fill in the derisive adjective].
However, I'm pretty confident a Delta police officer is more likely to act unprofessionally than one wearing a VPD badge.
 

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US cops ? Well I do not want to defend any of the ones that are clearly trigger happy psychos, BUT I will say this about them:

They have to police a country where anyone they encounter can (thanks to the 2nd amendment) can also be an armed trigger happy psycho. Their police, and even their security guards, have it drilled into them from day one, to approach every person like that person is a potentially lethal threat to their own lives. Psychologically they are on high alert, all the time - one false move and they'll unload a whole magazine on you, (in their minds) before you can unload one on them. Is that reaction aggression, or fear? Probably both.

So add that factor to the racial animosity that's hard-wired into US society, plus the whole jock thug attitude of some cops who just want to hurt someone legally, and what you get is a lot of shootings, beatings, tazerings, etc.
Everything is weaponized. Everything is racialized*. Everything is politicized. "Welcome to the USA." It's a fucking mess, but their mess to deal with.

(*That's what "racialized" actually means, folks. It's about societies where the racial filter is on everything: every person or group is judged by race first, on all sides of the equation. NOT the bullshit misuse of the term that is so common these days.)


Not every US cop is a bloodthirsty goon or a racist scumbag, but I certainly wouldn't trust that they're not either. I would act very carefully around them. Be cooperative, not ever frantic or aggressive. You don't know what's in their head; you don't know what kind of bad data they've gotten about you by way of some panicked 911 call.

Canadian cops? Well, it's less of a trigger-happy thing here because we do not have the same "everyone has a gun" culture (and hopefully never will), so they are not as quick to assume every person they meet is Billy The Kid and gun them down. Still, criminals and extremists up here are increasingly well armed because there's so much surplus weaponry coming over the border - therefore violent capability by the Canadian police must rise to levels which overcome it. That's the thing about cops: they have to come out on top in any forceful confrontation. That's how it has to be. (You do not want to live in a country where police have actually lost control of the streets to criminal gangs.)

To me a big problem is when Canadian cops end up emulating US law enforcement attitudes and techniques. Our cops go down there for special training sessions; they watch videos meant for US cops within US society & full of US assumptions; they go onto internet forums about policing that are dominated by US cops, and therefore full of US attitudes and US politics. Immerse Canadian cops in that for very long, and they will start to act the same way. They get indoctrinated into the attitude that it is an adversarial culture with all cops (good or bad) on one side and all civilians (good or bad) on the other. If "race" is involved in their thinking at all, it's that automatic pre-judgement (prejudice) about whether someone's up to no good, or whether as a victim, their life is worth anything at all.

Policing will always be adversarial between cops and criminals, it has to be. But it does not have to automatically be that way between cops and everybody else. That's the mistake that keeps being repeated.

But this is nothing new - look at just about any organization with any sort of power, and you'll find the same internal struggle, against corruption of purpose and abuse of power.
 
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On the subject of Americans and their guns, here is what the second amendment says, note the first part. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
 

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The US revolutionary army had been disbanded when the 2A was adopted. The purpose was that a pool of ready troops could be called on if needed in case of foreign invasion or domestic uprising.
The central government was still having problems getting some places to heed its authority.
It was not created so incels could walk into Starbucks with an assault rifle.
 
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