US Immigration

[storm rider]

I think immigration requirements favour non white immigrants because the Liberals want to turn Canada into some multi culti wonderland. It started with PET who wanted to break the power of the English majority by importing millions of 3rd worlders. Tony Blair followed a similar plan.

It is exactly what happened and his evil entitled son has continued this....the Lieberals dont want to "help the middle class and those wishing to join it" which is the current catch phrase/answer to any Opposition queastion in the House of Parliamnet during queastion period about the COSTS of the CARBON TAX to Canadian Families both poor and middle class as well as the ELITES such as the Trudeau/Morneau clans and the like and the Westons/Thompsons/Ervings.....the latter being BILLIONAIRE dynasty families who have multi generational fortunes that are well protected and off shore or at the very least tax sheilded.....they ELITES have no concearn or worry.

As for the "middle class" that the Lieberals purport to "help".....yeah well they get more money in child tax credits and at the same time it is TAXABLE.....under the Conservatives it was not TAXED.All of the TAX write off's such as the child fitness benefit got AXED under the Lieberals.....the mindset of the Lieberals is "give them more money and then TAX the shit out of them" for their Tax and Spend MORE agenda.

Importing 50,000 Syrian "refugees" is in the grand plan by the Lieberals to pretty much import votes for their party.

The Lieberals are not looking out for the "middle class"....truth be told they want to destroy it and subjugate them into the "poor" whilst they rule as ELITES and tell us what is best for us as their preferred stock the filthy proletariate.....this is the nature of Socialism.

SR

 

[Cock Throppled]

My parents always used to say the Liberal Party buys votes through importing immigrants they hope will remain loyal to them.

 

[MissingOne]

My parents and grandparents came to Canada as economic migrants - in other words looking for better opportunities. As it happens, in the decades when they arrived, they could do so legally. None of them would have qualified to come to Canada under the present rules.

The migrants from Central America are following similar impulses to those of my immigrant ancestors, but coming from far worse places. They believe they have no legal means to do what they feel they need to do. As a child of economic migrants myself, I would be pretty damn hypocritical begrudging them the attempt. Desperate circumstances lead to desperate actions.

I'll admit I haven't done any research on Canada's current immigration requirements....but I have heard of this before, that's why some of my family members have had some trouble getting even simple visiting visas in the last 10 years...but if you don't mind me asking, what has exactly changed? I wonder, because, we constantly have new immigrants from India and China etc, like every single day, its growing by the week, esp in some parts, its either ALL Indian immigrants (and not even Indians born here, just immigrants only), or another group...I barely see white people anymore, I get so excited when I do see them now lol...I have nothing against it infact I like it because then I don't have any chance of running into anyone I know lol in public if I go grocery shopping etc. I am just wondering how is it sooo easy for these people, and difficult for many others? and they are not rich, most of them are less than middle class, a lot are students as well.

i am surprised that you used my post as a lead-in to a discussion of racial aspects of immigration. What I was thinking of when I wrote that none of my forbears would have qualified to come to Canada under the present rules, was that they had only rudimentary education and skills, and had little money. They wouldn't have met the modern educational requirements nor had the financial resources to come as ordinary immigrants these days.

 

[Amerix]

i am surprised that you used my post as a lead-in to a discussion of racial aspects of immigration. What I was thinking of when I wrote that none of my forbears would have qualified to come to Canada under the present rules, was that they had only rudimentary education and skills, and had little money. They wouldn't have met the modern educational requirements nor had the financial resources to come as ordinary immigrants these days.

They also weren't able to get any money from Canadian taxpayers when they arrived. They had to work. I'm perfectly OK with accepting some reasonable number of economic migrants as long as they don't get anything from taxpayers for, say, 30 years, after arriving.

 

[Amerix]

I think immigration requirements favour non white immigrants because the Liberals want to turn Canada into some multi culti wonderland. It started with PET who wanted to break the power of the English majority by importing millions of 3rd worlders. Tony Blair followed a similar plan.

There's also somewhat of a shortage of white people who want to move here.

The fact is that the ponzi schemes of CPP, OAS, and unlimited medical care are not compatible with a shrinking population and increasing life spans. The federal government has been aware since at least the 80s that it has to bring in large numbers of immigrants to have any chance of paying for Baby Boomers' retirements.

 

[sevenofnine]

read on the news just now
Canada spending millions on migrants showing up on our borders,
occasionally putting them up in hotels,
giving them all the necessities including healthcare.
basically catching them at the border offering assistance, taking names etc, giving them a hearing date for court, for their status and letting them go.

and only a small percentage of them fail to appear for their court dates.

its nice to be Canadian I must say

though I still don't agree with q jumpers,
thank God Im Canadian

 

[Big_Guy_Rye]

Canadian generousity will start showing it's limits pretty soon.

Even Toronto's leadership is tell Ottawa they can't handle the influx anymore.

Yes, Canada is great....but so is a good steak.

And with our lofty policies, we're basically putting that steak in a room full of wolves and told to behave themselves.

it's not going to go the way you think.

 

[treveller]

Just read an article looking at what it would be like if borders were open to migration. The clearest and surest result would be an incredible boost to the global economy.

"A world of free movement would be $78 trillion richer"
https://www.economist.com/the-world...-of-free-movement-would-be-78-trillion-richer

Are you afraid "they" will take over the government? Don't give them a vote. Are you afraid "they" will cost too much? Past experience shows this to be an unreasonable concern but if you are still worried "they" can pay a higher tax rate. Are you afraid "they" will undermine your labor bargaining power? Again a questionable concern but if we adopt a guaranteed basic income then no one will suffer from poverty.

Don't knock it till you read the article.

With a growing global population and finite or dwindling resources there will be radical changes. The only question is what sort of changes.

 

[Mrmotorscooter]

 

[Ray]

Canada does detain children, but does not separate them from parents. They stay with their mother.

For those like me that are allergic to screeds from Ezra Levant, here is an article to read:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/canada-detention-children-united-states-1.4709632

 

[Cock Throppled]

Just read an article looking at what it would be like if borders were open to migration. The clearest and surest result would be an incredible boost to the global economy.

"A world of free movement would be $78 trillion richer"
https://www.economist.com/the-world...-of-free-movement-would-be-78-trillion-richer

Are you afraid "they" will take over the government? Don't give them a vote. Are you afraid "they" will cost too much? Past experience shows this to be an unreasonable concern but if you are still worried "they" can pay a higher tax rate. Are you afraid "they" will undermine your labor bargaining power? Again a questionable concern but if we adopt a guaranteed basic income then no one will suffer from poverty.

Don't knock it till you read the article.

With a growing global population and finite or dwindling resources there will be radical changes. The only question is what sort of changes.

That article is making ridiculous speculations and conclusions.

It never questions why some countries are better off than others (and it's not just location, because you can grow a lot more crops in Nigeria, than Sweden).

It never factors in the disruptions large groups of people of other religions, races, customs and beliefs create in any community.

It assumes the immigrants who have been more productive, and more successful under limited immigration, will automatically be replicated by unlimited numbers of immigrants. That is HIGHLYspeculative.

Lastly, all the positive factors of immigration cited have been achieved by regulated immigration, not a wide open, everyone-join-the-party free-for-all that would include the infirm, elderly, insane, seriously ill, and criminals - basically unproductive people who will always be a drain, and never a contributor. Germany is finding out, toAngela Merkel's dismay, that cultural integration can't be done beyond a society's willingness to accept it.

 

[sybian]

My Dad came here from war torn Europe....he was given a new birthday, given a changed last name, that was close enough to his own, and given a new set of Canadian parents.
His Siblings were treated the same....All but one became productive citizens, and never returned to Europe, even when their country of birth offered them free land to come back to and farm......there was no welfare, no social services to drain into their pockets.
My Dad always said...." They're not executing our parents here...they don't target practice at us ,while we are out in the fields......and we've never had to eat another field mouse to survive. We are nothing but Canadian, and we owe everything to the people of this country."

I was raised, to be Canuck to the core.

 

[sevenofnine]

I think that is were some of the problems lie, just what he said,

people come here, and say I am Canadian
others come here, and they do not embrace Canada the same way,
they want to hold on to all the shit, that made there country a bad place to live,

 

[storm rider]

Canada does detain children, but does not separate them from parents. They stay with their mother.

For those like me that are allergic to screeds from Ezra Levant, here is an article to read:

I think that is were some of the problems lie, just what he said,

people come here, and say I am Canadian
others come here, and they do not embrace Canada the same way,
they want to hold on to all the shit, that made there country a bad place to live,

That is why ^....people like that should not be permitted to gain entry into Canada.....fuck the BS Liberal crapulence that has been espoused by the current PM who is also a huge fan of the biggest cocksucker to walk the face of the earth...him being George Soros....the Globalist agenda is the death knell for what is left of the "middle class" in both Canada and the USA....the people like Soros and Trudeau are the ones that are the ELITES and they want CHAOS.

SR

 

[Man Mountain]

Does anybody else remember this from when they were a kid?

 

[Ray]

So now we see George Soros being vilified. Do you want to know why he became a target for being vilified?

After the collapse of the Soviet union, a number of the former states embraced the democratic process and capitalism, shunning their past as Soviet republics.
This movement towards democracy recieved financial support from the west, including a fund controlled by George Soros.
This recieved a furious backlash from Russia, who set upon an aggressive internet campaign to discredit and villify him.
There are even posts circulating on social media falsely identifying him as a member of the Nazi SS. (He is Jewish and was a child during the waiting).

These claims have now been embraced and circulated by the Far-Right. And now being shared here.

Back up your claims and show proof that George Soros is who you say he is.

 

[Ray]

*during the war*
My fingers are too thick for my phone, and stupid autocorrect..

 

[badbadboy]

The last thing the Ultra Rights can handle is a successful Billionaire (a real one) who is giving away money to social Liberal Democratic causes. Breitbart, Fox et al have been hammering away at Soros as part of their script for a long time. Never came up with anything that was actually provable.

The same right wing agenda in his native Hungary has gone even further to convince its own citizens that Soros is the devil.

It's crazy making perpetuated by Russian bots and ultra rights worldwide.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-viktor-orbans-war-on-george-soros-and-hungarys-jews/

 

[Ray]

Btw, 'the death of the middle class in Canada and the US' started with the war on unions. Right wing parties somehow managed to convince their loyal constituents that unions were responsible for the economy not doing well. If only we could get away with eliminating livable wages and benefits, the country will prosper. The people actually started repeating these lines, egged on by Fox 'news' and the like.
Companies now have billions in offshore accounts, people are working poor. And convinced its the fault of immigrants.

 

[Amerix]

Btw, 'the death of the middle class in Canada and the US' started with the war on unions. Right wing parties somehow managed to convince their loyal constituents that unions were responsible for the economy not doing well. If only we could get away with eliminating livable wages and benefits, the country will prosper. The people actually started repeating these lines, egged on by Fox 'news' and the like.
Companies now have billions in offshore accounts, people are working poor. And convinced its the fault of immigrants.

Unions killed themselves. Can't hire anyone, can't fire anyone, can't pay anyone based on ability, only seniority. DOA.