US Immigration

[storm rider]

From what I gather from your posts is you are first generation Canadian with your father immigrating here from the UK. Probably immigrated easily because in those days white people got an easy incoming policy from Canada.

Fast forward 50 years. We have people from Syria walking in the snow to Manitoba in winter to get to Canada. Suffering frostbite and having their feet damaged forever.

What are we supposed to do? Say fuck you go home?

Pretty nice life you have had here but now you feel entitled to slam the door on other new immigrants. Not everyone gets to immigrate legally because of repressive governments or violent Cartels.

Eventually, you might realize how entitled you come across and how lucky your family was to be welcomed to Canada.

Yes I am the first of my family born in Canada and most likely the last and my response and mindset to people that want to skip the line is literally FUCK OFF.My family was not "entitled".My father was a British Citizen and gaining entry to Canada back in 1967 was a given since Canada was part of the British commonwealth back then same as it is now.As a tax payer who gets next to nothing in retirement I totally fucking RESENT my tax dollars as well as ALL of the collective tax dollars spent on "economic migrants" who say they are "refugees".....last election it was like a fucking bidding war with Syrian "refugees" with the LIEBERALS winning saying they would take 50,000 of them and the COST to tax payers was 500 MILLION.....500 MILLION in tax payer money flushed down the toilet YET the Trudeau government is FIGHTING court battles to fuck over wounded Canadian veterans.....and it is fluff for Justin Trudeau to take a 1.5 MILLION family costume fantasy vacation to India....or a 220 GRAND vacation to a private island.

I want tax dollars to be spent responsibly and I resent people "jumping the line".....if people want to become Canadians and the like they should go through due process and the like and then enjoy the same BS I get to....paying a shitload of money to a massively bloated government that feeds on beauracracy and waste.

SR

 

[Ray]

"economic migrants" who say they are "refugees".....last election it was like a fucking bidding war with Syrian "refugees"

So, having their homes and communities reduced to rubble, friends and family members killed, at the mercy of strangers for their survival, doesn't make people legitimate refugees in your eyes. What does it take?

 

[Ray]

.My family was not "entitled".My father was a British Citizen and gaining entry to Canada back in 1967 was a given since Canada was part of the British commonwealth back then same as it is now.

This is the very definition of being entitled. It was your birthright to settle anywhere in the Commonwealth.

 

[badbadboy]

Yes I am the first of my family born in Canada and most likely the last and my response and mindset to people that want to skip the line is literally FUCK OFF.My family was not "entitled".My father was a British Citizen and gaining entry to Canada back in 1967 was a given since Canada was part of the British commonwealth back then same as it is now.As a tax payer who gets next to nothing in retirement I totally fucking RESENT my tax dollars as well as ALL of the collective tax dollars spent on "economic migrants" who say they are "refugees".....last election it was like a fucking bidding war with Syrian "refugees" with the LIEBERALS winning saying they would take 50,000 of them and the COST to tax payers was 500 MILLION.....500 MILLION in tax payer money flushed down the toilet YET the Trudeau government is FIGHTING court battles to fuck over wounded Canadian veterans.....and it is fluff for Justin Trudeau to take a 1.5 MILLION family costume fantasy vacation to India....or a 220 GRAND vacation to a private island.

I want tax dollars to be spent responsibly and I resent people "jumping the line".....if people want to become Canadians and the like they should go through due process and the like and then enjoy the same BS I get to....paying a shitload of money to a massively bloated government that feeds on beauracracy and waste.

SR

Typical response expected from an entitled offspring of a British citizen who got to the front of the line purely because of the British heritage and somehow Canada owed them something because we are colonials?

They are the worthy ones allowed into Canada while those in need are not because they could possibly end up being a tax burden?

Smacks of rascism too. Oh wait, you already posted youtube of one of those you admire.

You are too easy a read.

Don't go into any more of your anti Liberal rants. Do we need to rehash those Conservative crooks Mulroney and Harper all over again? They lined their own pockets and those of their friends pretty good when they were at the trough.

 

[westwoody]

Educate oneself on a topic and hone your debating skills.

Echo chambers are what cause this level of idiocy.
A bunch of like minded people engaging in nonsensical blather and reinforcing their own opinions.

On the other hand it is pointless to debate with those who disregard facts and simply repeat nonsense over and over. See: anti vaxxers, flat earthers, climate change deniers, creationists. You cannot reason with someone who thinks Jenny McCarthy or Gwyneth Paltrow are as knowledgable as a scientist who has a PhD and is published.

 

[westwoody]

Typical response expected from an entitled offspring of a British citizen who got to the front of the line purely because of the British heritage and somehow Canada owed them something because we are colonials?

My parents got in the same way. When they came, British citizens were automatically Canadian citizens.
When I was a kid my parents socialised with a very tight-knit community of Brits. The whole bunch were racist and Land of Hope and Glory types, but it was well hidden from outsiders.
I had a lot of Asian friends, even gay friends, when I was in school and uni which caused a lot of friction at home.

So one time I was visiting years after moving away. They had sponsored an entire family of boat people, rented an apartment for them, put up an immigration bond for them, and my dad got some Masonic friends to get a job for the father. What changed? My siblings and I never found out.

 

[MRGREEN]

We've had trouble with immigrants ever since my family came to this country............. yes that is sarcasm

Peace

 

[BIGOZZIE]

This is the very definition of being entitled. It was your birthright to settle anywhere in the Commonwealth.

Liberals trying to make 'entitled' into a dirty word. Won't work with me.

 

[Fullhouse]

Fast forward 50 years. We have people from Syria walking in the snow to Manitoba in winter to get to Canada. Suffering frostbite and having their feet damaged forever.

So, these people are walking from Syria all the way to Manitoba. Wow, that's quite the feat.
I've heard of people walking on water, but all the way across the Pacific --- that is absolutely astonishing.

I tried it once, just walking across a back yard swimming pool.
After the first step I sank to the bottom like a rock, and the caesar drink I was sipping discoloured the whole pool.

Oh, btw. --- I thought that once you are in Manitoba you are in Canada. I may be wrong - I never was any good at geography.
I used to think that Greece was far, far away, but it must be close to Vancouver because I often hear of ladies offering trips to Greece.

 

[MissingOne]

So, these people are walking from Syria all the way to Manitoba. Wow, that's quite the feat.
I've heard of people walking on water, but all the way across the Pacific --- that is absolutely astonishing...

Of course they wouldn't do that. Any sensible person walking from Syria to Canada would stroll west across the Mediterranean, head out through the Gates of Gibraltar, and then hike a great circle route across the Atlantic to, oh I dunno, maybe Halifax.

 

[wetnose]

So one time I was visiting years after moving away. They had sponsored an entire family of boat people, rented an apartment for them, put up an immigration bond for them, and my dad got some Masonic friends to get a job for the father. What changed? My siblings and I never found out.

What? Wow, that's amazing. I guess people can change.

I once met a Vietnamese guy who had been brought here as a child refugee in the 70s and he was profusely thankful for his host family.

 

[overdone]

So, having their homes and communities reduced to rubble, friends and family members killed, at the mercy of strangers for their survival, doesn't make people legitimate refugees in your eyes. What does it take?

what do you call a population that sits under the thumb of one family for 50+ years?
pretty willingly, from what one could tell, large % seemed to anyway

I can't count how many Syrians I saw on TV saying they still want to go back, taking that to mean they don't care if Bashar is still in charge

seems to be the norm in the Arab world no?
lack of concern for real democracy?

or can you name all those "real" "actual" democratic countries over there, lol


then when the uprising starts, all their young men of fighting age flee like little girls trying to get into Europe?
or were those actors on fake news? lol

are those refugees in your eyes?
or upstanding citizens

women, children, the old, sure take them in

but, those of fighting age, despite Obama being another link in the ongoing useless US president chain, which continues

his adm did offer to train and equip them

virtually no one took the offer

I don't have any sympathy for the Syrians, in general




The Kurds, in the region, who have and continue to ask for help, there's a group who deserve support, they in general want to do the heavy lifting themselves

the west should be ashamed for not helping them more

 

[87112]

I have seen videos where migrants populated a small town in America and business followed them. These are jobs white Americans do not want like meat and chicken plants and farming. They will be solving a labor shortage issues that is already happening. Trumps wants you to think migrants will be taking over jobs at Goggle, Ford, Intel. The guy is an absolute idiot who has no idea that having the migrants move to places where young people are leaving in droves is needed. Have you ever been to small town America, its dying.

 

[Ray]

what do you call a population that sits under the thumb of one family for 50+ years?
pretty willingly, from what one could tell, large % seemed to anyway

I can't count how many Syrians I saw on TV saying they still want to go back, taking that to mean they don't care if Bashar is still in charge

seems to be the norm in the Arab world no?
lack of concern for real democracy?

or can you name all those "real" "actual" democratic countries over there, lol


then when the uprising starts, all their young men of fighting age flee like little girls trying to get into Europe?
or were those actors on fake news? lol

are those refugees in your eyes?
or upstanding citizens

women, children, the old, sure take them in

but, those of fighting age, despite Obama being another link in the ongoing useless US president chain, which continues

his adm did offer to train and equip them

virtually no one took the offer

I don't have any sympathy for the Syrians, in general




The Kurds, in the region, who have and continue to ask for help, there's a group who deserve support, they in general want to do the heavy lifting themselves

the west should be ashamed for not helping them more

People generally don't want to leave where their families have lived for thousands of years. They have deep roots to the land. They tolerated the government when the government left them alone. Let them go to work, raise their families. People there have never had democracy, it is alien to them. They wanted freedom, to live their own lives.
Then when the government started to shoot thousands of people in the streets, people started fleeing. Then ISIS came in and forcibly took young men to fight on their behalf. The young men fled.

The people of Syria have stood up against the dictatorships before too. Back in the 80s. They were crushed then too.

The people that Canada/US took in were families, women and children who were vetted in the camps before they showed up here. There were literally years of background checks carried out.

I also agree the Kurds have been shit upon by everyone last 100 years or so. I used to go to a Kurdish barber in Richmond years ago when I actually had some hair to cut. Super nice couple, their stories were heartbreaking.

 

[sevenofnine]

yes I have wondered about that myself, are they simply not migrants,
the same with Europe, they cross how many countries before they get to their country of choice, Germany usually maybe Sweden or the uk,
and doesn't a country have to actually want them,
I mean somebody shows up at your door, why can't you just say no,
go fucking back home,


in terms of Canada and our multi cultural society,
I have kind of have enough of People from India and Pakistan, even the middle east,
not to be racist, I think Im just being fair, let someone else in. I am surrounded by them,
but I have yet to encounter anyone from south America, mexico etc etc, you know what I mean,
they are facing violence war, same the others,

I kind of think we should be fair is all. spread it around more.
and to be honest.

I would prefer Canada take in people, who have spent years in refugee camps. and have gone through the process of application,
then people who just travel through how many countries to get here, and
well now im here so you have to deal with me,

let the system be fair,
maybe im wrong, but, I don't fucking like q jumpers.

 

[Fullhouse]

I mean somebody shows up at your door, why can't you just say no,
go fucking back home,

.

Unless it's a hottie with big tits, in which case I would say: "Cum fucking in my home".

 

[80watts]

The problem with immigration is that everyone thinks that immigrants will bring the problems from their old country to Canada. Yes that does happen.

Most refugees in Canada look at Canada as a place to start again.

Unfortunately their are people that think these immigrants are draining to our economic system in Canada. Yes and no, yes for now, but what happens in 10 years when the majority of the population is over 50. Who does the nursing, doctoring, running the economy, we need immigrants for the economy.

After all our white kids are so entitled that they should be given everything....

Canada needs a stronger middle class, while getting rid of the poor class. The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.... The rich see to it that everything is to their advantage, which is why more and more families are going below the poverty line.

 

[Caramel]

My parents and grandparents came to Canada as economic migrants - in other words looking for better opportunities. As it happens, in the decades when they arrived, they could do so legally. None of them would have qualified to come to Canada under the present rules.

The migrants from Central America are following similar impulses to those of my immigrant ancestors, but coming from far worse places. They believe they have no legal means to do what they feel they need to do. As a child of economic migrants myself, I would be pretty damn hypocritical begrudging them the attempt. Desperate circumstances lead to desperate actions.

I'll admit I haven't done any research on Canada's current immigration requirements....but I have heard of this before, that's why some of my family members have had some trouble getting even simple visiting visas in the last 10 years...but if you don't mind me asking, what has exactly changed? I wonder, because, we constantly have new immigrants from India and China etc, like every single day, its growing by the week, esp in some parts, its either ALL Indian immigrants (and not even Indians born here, just immigrants only), or another group...I barely see white people anymore, I get so excited when I do see them now lol...I have nothing against it infact I like it because then I don't have any chance of running into anyone I know lol in public if I go grocery shopping etc. I am just wondering how is it sooo easy for these people, and difficult for many others? and they are not rich, most of them are less than middle class, a lot are students as well.

 

[BIGOZZIE]

I'll admit I haven't done any research on Canada's current immigration requirements....but I have heard of this before, that's why some of my family members have had some trouble getting even simple visiting visas in the last 10 years...but if you don't mind me asking, what has exactly changed? I wonder, because, we constantly have new immigrants from India and China etc, like every single day, its growing by the week, esp in some parts, its either ALL Indian immigrants (and not even Indians born here, just immigrants only), or another group...I barely see white people anymore, I get so excited when I do see them now lol...I have nothing against it infact I like it because then I don't have any chance of running into anyone I know lol in public if I go grocery shopping etc. I am just wondering how is it sooo easy for these people, and difficult for many others? and they are not rich, most of them are less than middle class, a lot are students as well.

I think immigration requirements favour non white immigrants because the Liberals want to turn Canada into some multi culti wonderland. It started with PET who wanted to break the power of the English majority by importing millions of 3rd worlders. Tony Blair followed a similar plan.

 

[sevenofnine]

story on the news today

Algeria has forced thousands to walk across the sahara with no food or water, to the nearest town or hope some u.n. truck finds them, no food or water, 13 thousand, many have died.

if I had the power, those are the people I would rescue sadly there are millions more like them with no hope,

I watched a documentary, on fleeing refugees they have cell phones smart phones. money, lots of money, they are staying in nice apartments while they wait there fait. they are bartering with people five hundred is to much, there in Europe so im assuming euros
there are millions of people who don't have a dime or a cell phone to their name, and trapped in some hopeless situation.
the ones we see, have the means to get out and travel. the lucky ones.

I would go o some poor forgotten refugee camp, put up a tent with a Canadian flag. and start processing people. who wants to come to Canada.