Trump for President. Who's hopping on the bandwagon? Who's digging a bunker?

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A little off topic but I don't want to start a new thread unless someone else does...but the destruction in Aleppo is just so heartbreaking, maybe it was a good thing to take in Syrian refugees. It's so disgusting did anyone see the assassination of the Turkish ambassador for Russia today? just crazy!!! And the Berlin Christmas market crash, its considered an act of terror. I have CNN go live playing on my computer hehe :lol: so I'm all up to date :D BTW the CNN reporters are incredibly gorgeous! where do the news companies find these beauties :lol:
If you want to know the truth about Aleppo you won't find it on cnn
 

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Simply not possible. There is no way the US could ramp up production & maintain it to supply their current needs. I can't remember the numbers but the US uses some 20 million barrels of oil a day & produces about 11 million. They'll never be energy self sufficient unless they moved to natural gas & renewables. The Trump presidency will likely help the Canadian oil patch. Trump seems like he'd want to buy more Canadian oil & less from the Middle East
don't forget, petrochemical industry

oil is used for more than energy, the by products are the backbone of the chemical and plastics industry

renewable is mainly energy only and at best, supplemental (i.e. solar, daytime only. wind is weather dependent)
 

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one thing the economists all agree with is that the trade numbers system is inadequate

a large portion of imported products comes from US owned foreign subsidiaries and while the jobs are lost, the profits go to the parent company and its shareholders who are mainly US investors

manufacturing diversification helps with currency risk so most large companies have moved some of their production out of their native countries and placed it strategic areas worldwide to compensate or balance their currency exposure

so when talking about trade deficits, its mainly for PR spin

Canada has this last year setup an ability for our banks to have Chinese currency balances. This means Canadian companies can do business with Chinese companies without using the US dollar as the international currency of choice. We can buy products with Chinese rmb from our own banks. No need to exchange
Canadian for US dollar and for the Chinese to change US dollar to rmb.

The rhetoric which Trump is rumbling about will likely help boost more Chinese/Canadian trade.

Also, China, Korea, and Japan have been forming tax favorable relationships in the hopes of building a tighter supply chain system among each other. Russia have been moving head office of their large industries from Moscow to the east and are beginning to work with this mini trade alliance as well. Independent of the government posturing, the business community is building these strong alliances to wean themselves off of their US market dependencies.

The isolationist stance which Trump is taking might be beneficial in select industries but across the board it will harm them in the end. Their industries will get fat and lazy with the protection of import restrictions and tariffs and the US will find itself non-competitive with the open international markets.

Historically we have learned that subsidies like trade protection ends up creating weaker, dependent industry players. As Trump looks to protect US jobs with legislation, the unions will penetrate those industries quickly and costs will go up. Consumer costs will go up as a result as well. Industry today needs to be competitive in 3 to 4 large international markets to survive.

Not sure how happy the US consumers will be when they find they can buy an Asian imported product from Canada cheaper than the US counterpart available in America.

Just some rants and concerns about Trump thinking he is smarter than a global economic engine.
 

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the CNN reporters are incredibly gorgeous!
I walked right into one just outside the press gate to the White House, and she was indeed drop dead gorgeous.

Really seemed like a nice lady too, she was very polite in our brief exchange.
 
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@Caramel: If Aleppo interests you, follow @alabedbana on Twitter. It's a 7 year old girl and her Mom tweeting the realities of the Syrian war. Lots has been said that it's staged but the account appears to be real. The little girl was evacuated a few days ago with her family.

And no, CNN is not a good place to go for accurate news about Aleppo. Try Al Jazeera English for a different perspective.
 
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Trump! The organizational genius! Oh wait...

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-18/the-empty-trump-administration

The only thing I disagree with the article is about having a fully functional national security team on Jan 20.

If Putin is your best buddy, then you don't really need to worry about national security.
In the world of state sponsored hacking, Russia are definitely a country to be reckoned with. I'd argue that China are best at APT (Advanced Persistent Threats) whereas Russia is best at malware. Even their famed anti-virus company, Kaspersky, is sometimes shunned by North American firms fearing it may backdoor networks. My guess is that every intelligence analyst & military leader is thinking "what the fuck" when it comes to Trump. It's certainly a concern of famed military hacker "Jester Actual" @th3j35t3r (Twitter).
 

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Just a few more hours until he is inaugurated...no more referring him as president-elect which sounds like a knock off of the real thing

ahhh, in just a few hours racism/hate/sexism/bigotry will rule America, but more importantly, a billionaire boys club will rule America and they will simply just look out for themselves and their rich associates, Trumpsters have been fooled ...RIP humanity and equality


but who knows, perhaps its a good idea for all the people and the public to have rich spoiled closed minded delusional old farts of all 1 race/gender to have that much power? Or am I being delusional and hopeful here....
 
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Just a few more hours until he is inaugurated...no more referring him as president-elect which sounds like a knock off of the real thing

ahhh, in just a few hours racism/hate/sexism/bigotry will rule America, but more importantly, a billionaire boys club will rule America and they will simply just look out for themselves and their rich associates, Trumpsters have been fooled ...RIP humanity and equality


but who knows, perhaps its a good idea for all the people and the public to have rich spoiled closed minded delusional old farts of all 1 race/gender to have that much power? Or am I being delusional and hopeful here....
I'd look at it in a positive light. Had Clinton won, we'd have had another 4 years of the same status quo. Trump is the gasoline on the fire that was needed to get American's off their computers & away from Netflix to go out and do something. Perhaps it's the beginning of a revolution (hopefully). It will be an ugly 4 years & the King of Narcissists will learn it's one thing to be a TV star. It's another to be the most powerful in the world.

As for the racism, sexism & bigotry ruling America, I think it's always been there. The difference is Trump is an enabler of that hate; he gives it a voice. So the voices of hate will be louder, but on the flip side the voices against that hate will also be louder & hopefully a little more aggressive than the current "PTA Mom" mentality they imagine elicits change. The only way to make a cockroach scurry is to shine a light on it.
 

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but who knows, perhaps its a good idea for all the people and the public to have rich spoiled closed minded delusional old farts of all 1 race/gender to have that much power? Or am I being delusional and hopeful here....
Don't believe everything you read from one side of an argument. Trump's cabinet includes a few women, one of Chinese, and one of Indian background.
 

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Haha I remember that rally.
Hey there's my black guy!!
Going to be a long four years.
 

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Thank god I slept through it...I usually have CNN on all the time these days, but I'm dying to see the actual ceremony...I have to see this historic moment lmao...

omg the protests and riot police :pound:
 

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There will be more protesters than the celebrators tomorrow. Women's movement alone is forecasted to be in excess of 300K people.

I turn off anything to do with their president now. I suppose I'll dial in once the cancelation of the Free Trade agreement is brought up.

I liked Chris Rocks tweet last night to move the clocks back 300 years. No shit.
 

Caramel

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I keep hearing that the conflicts of interest laws don't apply to him, why does he keep saying that?
 

Caramel

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I'd look at it in a positive light. Had Clinton won, we'd have had another 4 years of the same status quo. Trump is the gasoline on the fire that was needed to get American's off their computers & away from Netflix to go out and do something. Perhaps it's the beginning of a revolution (hopefully). It will be an ugly 4 years & the King of Narcissists will learn it's one thing to be a TV star. It's another to be the most powerful in the world.

As for the racism, sexism & bigotry ruling America, I think it's always been there. The difference is Trump is an enabler of that hate; he gives it a voice. So the voices of hate will be louder, but on the flip side the voices against that hate will also be louder & hopefully a little more aggressive than the current "PTA Mom" mentality they imagine elicits change. The only way to make a cockroach scurry is to shine a light on it.
I must totally agree with this. You are so right, but I feel like his supporters have been fooled, I don't think he is in it for the people, just for himself and his business buddies.
 
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