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Brutal game last night which puts in contention for worst in the league status.


Once again they can't protect a lead and have no snipers in a shoot out.

I have said it many times that having more grit than what is displayed out there now will solve many problems we have on D.

I have good Seats for the Chicago game and am seriously considering selling them. Same Vancouver team shows up on Saturday, it won't be pretty.
 

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What, no complaints about Florida's first goal waved off? Luongo did not have control of the puck and goal should have counted. The calls even out.

PS _ Kesler is minus 5.
 

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At least Torts called out the whole team as a whole for not respecting another team. Not quite at rock bottom but if they don't get some momentum going soon, climbing back into playoff contention will be next to impossible.
 

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Canucks won last night and NOBODY has written about it?

6 goals,approx the last 2 weeks' worth, in ONE game!

fans should enjoy it while they can,the champs are in town tonight,got a feeling the carriage is gonna turn back into a pumpkin.
 

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Canucks won last night and NOBODY has written about it?

6 goals,approx the last 2 weeks' worth, in ONE game!

fans should enjoy it while they can,the champs are in town tonight,got a feeling the carriage is gonna turn back into a pumpkin.
Great game to watch last night and the Canucks came back and didn't let them back in the game at all.

Still, I have tickets for tonights game and hopefully the Nucks don't step on their dicks tonight.
 

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With the new playoff structure, this could be a playoff preview. Chicago 1st, Canucks 5th.
I would love to see this matchup over any of the Californian clubs or phoenix.

Hawks seem to bring out the best in the Canucks, so I hope this game lives up to it.
 

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The Canucks have had the Refs against them for 40 years! Well, that's what Can'tnucks fans say at least. They are hurtin, always have, always will. Sedins are great, until the season ends and the playoffs start. Then they are little boys playing in a man's league. The Nucks will NEVER win with the Sedins, NEVER. And if they do I will buy the best Canuck Fan on this forum dinner and spend the game with her . . .

Peyton, +/- is one of the best stats around if you want to win a game. If you want highlight reels not so much. Defense wins Stanley Cups and the only teams that ever won a Stanley Cup without good defence had absolutely outstanding goaltending, and luck (habs in 93, 14 OT wins in a row or something like that and Roy).

Trivia - who wins the race end to end = Cournoyer, Savard, Lafleur

Tonight's game - that pp . . . best chance was the Hawks chance
 

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The Canucks have had the Refs against them for 40 years! Well, that's what Can'tnucks fans say at least.
No. Just the 30 or so years since this happened:



And just to make sure that we never let the refs of the NHL forget about it, they put up a statue to forever commemorate the event:



That's my conspiracy theory and I'm sticking to it :D
 
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there is no way this Canucks team will make playoffs !!!!
everyone scared to take apenalty and or get suspensions...
no one hits or even body checks anymore.
the nhl entertainment does not exist anymore.
The fastest growing sport in world today is UFC /Cage fighting , and NHL dickheads wanna take out fighting , bodychecks , for fear of head hits etc.
The god ol' hockey game is gone folks , sorry to say.
 

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It's getting back to too many 1-0 and 2-1 games again. Even at the junior level, the game is over-coached. Too much structure can be a bad thing and that's what is happening to hockey at the higher levels. The best game I watched on the weekend was a soccer game. Yes, a soccer game. Everton and Liverpool tied 3-3 and it was a thriller. Then HNIC comes on and it's Washington and Toronto 1-1 and decided by a shootout, then Canucks game 1-0 forever until the Hawks score 2 quick ones and win 2-1. Even my Rangers win a dullsville 2-0 game over Nashville. I went to a BCHL game in Penticton on Saturday and was bored to tears for 3 periods of a 1-1 game. Coquitlam won eventually in 2nd overtime 2-1. I don't know the answer for opening the game up and making it more entertaining but for the most part now it is boring ... 2 teams just trying to hang back and neutralize each other defensively.
 

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The NHL brain trust (both molecules) thinks keeping US fans interested to the bitter end means keeping every team competitive. The ridiculous point system is a big culprit. Teams would be going for wins if they got 3 points for an outright win, 2 for an OT win and 1 for a shootout win. And NO points for losing in OT or a shootout.

Sure, some teams will start to put distance between the weak teams, but that's a good thing. It means a team on a streak can make up or lose a lot of ground in a short time. It might actually be exciting.
 

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Maybe the Canucks should take a page out of Bostons book. Start hooking, slashing and cheap hits every time they have an opportunity, especially now while their PK is very good. The Officials get flac from the league if they call too many penalties and start slowing the game down too much. If you recall the Bruins/Canucks Stanley cup series, The Bruins were committing so many fouls and getting called on less than a quarter of them. Marchand was especially vicious with slashing at ankles behind the play.

The Oilers of the early 80s are another example; when teams tried to get tough on Gretzky, the Oilers went on the offensive. They were so good at it, the league had to change the 4 on 4 rules to even things up again. Semenko was only one threat, Anderson would storm the crease at 40 mph with his stick in air, Greg would would make you pay anywhere along the boards and the Moose would hit you at 40 mph whether you had the puck or not.
 

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Have you seen what happens to a canuck player even within spitting distance of an opponent that falls down?
They call it boarding so I’d be a little gun shy too.
And Canuck fans wonder why every other city in the league thinks they're whiners.
 

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Obviously the two of you don’t understand the rules and that, in theory anyway, that the rules should be applied to both teams not only the Canucks.

You do understand that losing a tooth (as in there was blood) should be a 4 minute penalty right? Bieksa also got 2 minutes for the equivalent of cutting someone off in a merge lane. You can call that fair? Do you also vote conservative, watch fox news and find other ways to deny reality?

I have seen the Canucks get the better end of a call like the disallowed goal a few days ago, but I’d guess it to be at a 4-1 ratio.
4 B.S. calls against for every 1 B.S. call for them.
Did you miss the part where the Canucks got EIGHT fucking power plays? And scored on only ONE.

Sedin had a cap knocked loose - no blood because it was a crown, not a tooth.

Fans only see what they want to see and not the fact their team sucks.

Talk about ignoring reality.
 

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Funny, I never heard any of the "refs are against the nucks" stuff when they finished at the top or near the top of the league. This crying foul stuff always comes when a team is losing. The Leaf fans do it, most fans do it. And most teams come out of the funk - Canucks . . . . wow, a history of losing for the most part and that is not because the fans are bad, the teams have been bad, and pretty consistently. The Sedins fold up like a tower of cards when the playoffs come, so why keep thinking that is going to change? Sure Boston is a brute force team. The Habs kicked the Broad Street Bullies asses for a Stanley Cup. Good teams find a way through, over, around what ever is in their way. Teams that are soso wind up blaming others to explain why they are not on top of the league. It would be devastatingly amazing if the Canucks didn't make the playoffs. And that could well happen. Torts doesn't seem to have figured out his players yet nor his team. And it may be too late when he does. Wholesale change is what I think it will take to improve the Canucks. And with Lou's contract - he is a good goalie who can't take pressure (the only significant big win he has under his belt is the Gold medal and hell I coulda been in net with the team he had playing in front of him . . . )
 

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I would type up the fancy stats and the metrics that prove the Canucks are doing better than their results are showing right now but I'm afraid of encountering Leafs fans that think their team disproves modern sports statistics and mathematics.
 

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Trannyo Maple Laffs suck and perhaps the only city, that knows hockey, and still whines more than Vancouver. :)

Lou - the only big thing he ever won - Olympic Gold. In the games he played Canada outshot their opponents by 25%, or for every ten shots Lou faced the opposition goalie face 15. After one game "Luongo, who took over for a benched Martin Brodeur after the U.S. loss, gave up goals to Dmitri Kalinin, Afinogenov and Sergei Gonchar while making 25 saves, but didn't need to be brilliant with all that was going on around him." And then Lou was quoted,
"We did a great job, not only on Ovie but against all their top guys," Luongo said. "We wanted to not give them much room to skate."

Other commentary included, "The game was a strange one for Luongo. He owns a condo in Yaletown, just a couple of blocks from Canada Hockey Place, and for the better part of two periods Friday night it almost seemed like he could have strolled home for a quick visit between shots.


Canada had built a 3-0 lead through 40 minutes and Luongo had only faced nine shots. Only a couple of them were of the tough variety.


Then all hell broke loose in the third.

It started with a soft goal Luongo would definitely like back. Defenceman Lubomir Visnovsky beat him short side from a sharp angle at 11:35 of the third, squeezing the puck between Luongo's left pad and the post.

No doubt he is talented, he does make big saves, his timing on when he lets in a softy or makes a big save has prevented more success for him and the teams he has played for. Take the Boston series, had he been able to not let softies in the team in front of him may have been able to take more abuse. When you're on the ice and your goalie lets in softies it makes you wonder WTF you should fight through a check, take a cheap shot, or even try as hard as you can. I mean, why would ya, fricken goalie will likely let in another softy anyway. He NEEDS a great team in front of him to win.

I am not a Canucks fan but I would like them to win a Cup. They seem to consistently self destruct. Anyone could see they needed muscle in the lineup to protect the twins - why they didn't get it who knows, but they didn't. Now the twins are getting old both in terms of age and in terms of other teams figuring out how to stop them. When a Sedin cross checks a guy in the face and knocks a couple teeth out and then grins, then maybe the Cup will come to Van. Check out Malkin crosschecking the Maple Laffer in the face just last game. It ain't pretty but it ain't non-contact hockey either.
 

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Torts is just trying to shake up the team.

He's asking Lu to be great instead of just good.

The problem is, as a goaltender you can't really control the type of shot you face. If there is a turnover with a quick pass out front to a guy who one-times it top corner...that goal is going to go in, regardless of whether you needed a 'big save'. And those types of chances are going to increase when you have the lead because the other team is trying to tie.

Plus, you could say the same of the offense....we need a 'big goal'. But I think Torts knows he's already barked up that tree, he has to be patient. So who's left? Luongo.

Think about this: what's he supposed to do, try harder? That usually leads to disastrous consequences for a goaltender.

Having said that, Lu still has a long way to go in terms of technical proficiency. He is literally 10 years behind any new goalie in the league in his skating. Some tweaks can be made to his save selection and mechanics but some goals are going to go in.

As always, it's the whole team that needs to tighten EVERYTHING up. One thing effects the other. To be honest, the one thing that CAN be controlled is defence. That's why coaches make their money on defence, because they can greatly influence it with scheme. So really the team should be working on improving their reads in these late-game situations.
 

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I would type up the fancy stats and the metrics that prove the Canucks are doing better than their results are showing right now but I'm afraid of encountering Leafs fans that think their team disproves modern sports statistics and mathematics.
Funny... because it's true. :D 'nucks need to make an offering to the goal god. Lately, the play of Weise is impressing me. I love the passion.
 
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