Just to clarify I don't think she wants me to answer her calls/texts (and I have no interest in doing so). I believe what she had in mind was more along the lines of creating marketing content and referring new clients to her and helping her with safety and logistical issues. I agree that having someone else pretend to be her in email/text while calling herself independent would be deceptive and unethical and ultimately I believe a poor marketing strategy.
To Pimp Or Not To Pimp
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i think youre confusing my definition of independent with something else entirely. im saying to be a true independent then the calls and bookings must be done directly with the woman and nobody else. you cant really call yourself independent if you arent doing at least that. i reiterated the word pimp for effect. of course i dont think women should work like slaves and isolated from the world thats what micros are for lol, and a whole other ballgame.How generous.
May she also use restroom facilities that she is not 100% in control of, (i.e.) outside of her own home or in call location?
It’s really not that Black and White.
#1. if you are arranging clients for the woman you are a pimp. Or call manager at Shaw. TELUS, Geek squad, etc…
#2. if you are answering her calls and emails and txts and representing yourself as the woman you are a pimp. Or call manager at Shaw. TELUS, Geek squad, etc… (without the impersonation part)
#3. if you are casting audtions to see if the woman will cut it as an escort you are a pimp. Or hiring manager at Shaw, TELUS, Geek squad, etc… (may be the same person ass the call manager)
#4. if you are acting as a screening agent or liason of calls you are a pimp. Or call manager at Shaw. TELUS, Geek squad, etc…
#5. if you are offering drugs as a means to retain and hook women into remaining escorts you are disgusting pimp. Agreed
It’s simply not that Black and White
If you only call those supporting/administrative/management roles ‘pimping’ in relation to the sex industry, then you would seem to be judging the women more than the pimps do.
You’ve created a separation between their profession and other professions that from what I’ve read on Perb, the ladies themselves are trying to remove.
Independent general contractors have accountants, lawyers, call services, advertising agencies, etc… and no one calls the peripheral roles pimping.
You’re definition of ‘independent’ seems more like ‘isolated’, to me anyway.
How do the ladies feel about losing their ability to outsource?
One of the main reasons I am independent is because I want to book my own appointments. Anyone who is or wants to outsource that part might as well work for an agency. The way I see it, it's one thing to hire someone to do your website - you still have your say - or to hire a driver/security (and even to rent space from someone else) but it is completely different to have someone else deal with all client communications and make appointments for you to simply show up. IMO that's what makes the difference. Once you pay someone to handle all client communications, you are simply no longer independent. But if you hire a driver, it doesn't make any difference on whether or not you're independent. So I don't think you can really compare any kind of outsourcing...
good ole reza... he and perb go back a looooong way, lol...
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?165127-Erslist-2719-Persain&p=1266741&viewfull=1#post1266741
She would probably expect him to be her driver/security as well, so if you are looking at a $250/hour rate, 30% doesn't seem unreasonable if he was doing the whole package deal for her.
They get away with it because they are not selling sex, they are selling the SPs time. They will say that what she does during that time is her business and has nothing to do with them.
I would think before you decide,
you should check out how the law deals with pimps.
I maybe totally out to lunch on this, but I think the criminal justice system takes a totally different view of pimps then they do of say a simple john or esorts.
Worth checking into what the penalties are when a pimp has to face the music in front of a judge.
you should check out how the law deals with pimps.
I maybe totally out to lunch on this, but I think the criminal justice system takes a totally different view of pimps then they do of say a simple john or esorts.
Worth checking into what the penalties are when a pimp has to face the music in front of a judge.
You're 110% right they do...
http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/pimping-and-pandering.htm
http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/pimping-and-pandering.htm
I started my sojourn in an MP, which I barely tolerated, and then went to an Agency, which I absolutely hated. Fines for this and that, delays in getting paid for your Visa clients, threatening to fire you if you aren't super cooperative, insisting that you 'take your turn' working out of town (a 24/7 gig, btw), phone girl promising the world, and then you show up at buddy's hotel door and he's 'uh yeah, I expected a girl with big tits?'...
I've got nothing but contempt for those folks... I figured being independent coudn't be any worse than this, and it wasn't...it's been awesome!
I've got nothing but contempt for those folks... I figured being independent coudn't be any worse than this, and it wasn't...it's been awesome!
oh i NEVER forget somebody that kicked dust onto my boots... and yoshi99 - yep, i think he's mod-fodder now. he could be back under a different name though
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They say that explicitly on a lot of escort agency web sites. Especially down in the US.
How so? BJ mentioned a pimp from the news and vcc posted a year old thread where he was mentioned.
I think L-I-J meant something more like this:How so? BJ mentioned a pimp from the news and vcc posted a year old thread where he was mentioned.
http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/have+a+memory+like+an+elephant
VCC definitely has no leaks; that memory is iron-clad!
Thanks to everyone for your feedback and an interesting discussion. I'm seeing more and more the problems inherent in this business. It seems like more trouble than it's worth. I think I will just help her on an unpaid basis.
Ain't that the truth? I've worked for, agencies and I've worked in a legal brothel in Nevada. Being under someone's thumb is such a pain in the ass... I much prefer being. My own woman!
My friend Heidi Fleiss was spent time in Federal prison for pandering.... It's kind of serious...
Teen pimp trial: Two girls accused of human trafficking to enter guilty pleas
edit: ^^^^^ that`s the cover of Todays Metro for those of you who do not take Tranist
SOURCE: http://metronews.ca/news/ottawa/807...d-of-human-trafficking-to-enter-guilty-pleas/
edit: ^^^^^ that`s the cover of Todays Metro for those of you who do not take Tranist
THIS is where society should be concentrating their efforts - on enforcing its laws, not dreaming up new ones, especially new ones that don't work and can't be enforced
