Thoughts on MSOG for one hour appointment....

[Caramel]

I guess I'm an odd duck, when I meet with an SP I make just as much about them as it is about me. I take the extra time to make sure the SP Im with cums at least once if not more. Im usualy a 2 shot guy but if the chemistry is right then I'll try for a 3rd but I'll usually put in an effort not just expecting the SP to make it happen them selves.

there are a lot of guys out there who will literally FORCE the sp to cum or he will hold his orgasm hostage, and its usually a very pressured act, he will keep expecting it and keep asking for "cum"...then finally when he sees his own saliva dripping all over her pussy and she fakes a moan, finally he will be satisfied! lol

 

[johnsmit]

Not sure how guys can do 2 shots in an hour .. let alone 3...
When I first started seeing escorts I made it more about them .and I allways went down on them..it what I liked to do and thought it best to pleasure the girls..considering what they had to put up with frim us lol

Usually I thought I was doing a good job, now some of the guys fig the girls are just faking it and I guess that is there choise.
As for what I recived from them
that verify .Very seldom have I found a girl tgat could give me a BJ that drove me wild but i could never cum just form a BJ..and none could actually even make me come from a hand job..And when it came to sex ..yes I could go as long as they wanted..but I could never cum while having sex..That is one thing which the girl seem dissapointed in, thinking they did not do a good job or that I was not attracted enough to them .Of course that never was the case.For the longest time I could not even cum at a session period.

So mutable shots on goal was not even in my vocabulary.
As for the guys treating the girls like they see in the porn ..that all depends what kind of porn they watch ..Most of what I watch..is a pair or maybe a threesome, two guys one girl I like best.
But they are luckily if they get one shot off each .
Now the way porn us edited, repeating the same scean in the clip, and many times the guys cone very early..but they edit that in at the end ..So I don't thing my porn star are even popping 2 shots in an hr.

 

[meaghanmcleodDELETED]

I think that as humans, we all have our personal likes and dislikes. Some enjoy a full on romp, lots of play, little downtime, and a more PS experience. Others, like to take it slow, enjoy, savor the time spent together. Watching for cues to each others enjoyment.

I'm always hesitant to suggest another round when he is enjoying a moment of rest. There is still time. However, what if he is one of those that is one SOG. Am I pushing him when he doesn't want to go again? Is he waiting for me to make the next move?

My opinion, MSOG came out when some would say - you're done, yes there is still time, but because you popped, its time for you to go. I always hated that, and remember agencies telling me to leave once he popped. I always felt like we were both being ripped off. Once I went independent, I realized it was my business, and my choice. So, I enjoyed the opportunity to say, hey, do you want to go again?

I still remember my Georgia Peach - such a great body, his accent was adorable. He booked me for 4 hours - it was a full on 4 hours of play. Shortly after I left, he called me back for round 2 (or was that round 10?). I gladly went back - not for the money, but because I truly enjoyed my time with him. Yes, when I did get home, I looked like an alley cat that had been out for the last 3 days, but I was truly satisfied and happy.

So, at the end of the day, it really depends on chemistry. This is not really a YMMV - but really an ability to understand the others needs and desires. Yes, I have some that don't seem to understand my cues as to what I enjoy. They think they are being the Don Juan of loving. I do decline some that invite me to see them again - the chemistry just was not there, and it's not because of my failure, or theirs. We are all human.

 

[tiger69]

@Caramel
"there are a lot of guys out there who will literally FORCE the sp to cum or he will hold his orgasm hostage, and its usually a very pressured act, he will keep expecting it and keep asking for "cum"...then finally when he sees his own saliva dripping all over her pussy and she fakes a moan, finally he will be satisfied! lol"

See now I have always tried to at least make my SP cum via daty before the main course- I do that for gfs I've dated, the gf I'm with, and just have always thought that's the nobler thing to do when being with a woman.
That said, I was a bit...annoyed...when one session, many years back...with a SP from Covergirls Agency... I totally lost track of time during daty cause she was acting like she really really, I mean "REALLY" loving what I was doing. And by the time she had her "earth shaking" orgasm at last, and I was thinking, "cool, that was a job well done, now it's my turn..." she informed me through gasps and pants...I only had 2 minutes left on the clock...
I basically paid $280 for 50 minutes worth of foreplay...
She did say "man I should've paid you for that." which made me feel...slightly better...but the fact was I shelled out all that money without even getting a BJ out of it lol.

So here's an etiquette question for everyone: Lets say you're going down, or trying to please the SP, and it seems to be slow going to the point that you probably won't get her to orgasm without either going overtime or, like described above, sacrificing your own "paid for" relief... She's not telling you to stop, she is even making noises and moving like she really enjoys what you're doing- but she's not coming... At which point is it polite to say...okay enough is enough, we been at this for 40 minutes now, lets get to the f***king? Of course with a real gf I'd never think of stopping till she either says stop, or she cums, or she's showing signs of not enjoying it...but with a SP, there is a time limit on the session- and several hundred $$$s on the line no less. How would you go about dealing with that?
Now, I've been fortunate enough to find some very good SPs who, either orgasm in reasonable time (fake or no fake), or smoothly suggested that she wanted to fuck- a great way to let your client off the hook IMO, but what if they're not saying anything either way?

 

[Caramel]

@Caramel
"there are a lot of guys out there who will literally FORCE the sp to cum or he will hold his orgasm hostage, and its usually a very pressured act, he will keep expecting it and keep asking for "cum"...then finally when he sees his own saliva dripping all over her pussy and she fakes a moan, finally he will be satisfied! lol"

See now I have always tried to at least make my SP cum via daty before the main course- I do that for gfs I've dated, the gf I'm with, and just have always thought that's the nobler thing to do when being with a woman.
That said, I was a bit...annoyed...when one session, many years back...with a SP from Covergirls Agency... I totally lost track of time during daty cause she was acting like she really really, I mean "REALLY" loving what I was doing. And by the time she had her "earth shaking" orgasm at last, and I was thinking, "cool, that was a job well done, now it's my turn..." she informed me through gasps and pants...I only had 2 minutes left on the clock...
I basically paid $280 for 50 minutes worth of foreplay...
She did say "man I should've paid you for that." which made me feel...slightly better...but the fact was I shelled out all that money without even getting a BJ out of it lol.

So here's an etiquette question for everyone: Lets say you're going down, or trying to please the SP, and it seems to be slow going to the point that you probably won't get her to orgasm without either going overtime or, like described above, sacrificing your own "paid for" relief... She's not telling you to stop, she is even making noises and moving like she really enjoys what you're doing- but she's not coming... At which point is it polite to say...okay enough is enough, we been at this for 40 minutes now, lets get to the f***king? Of course with a real gf I'd never think of stopping till she either says stop, or she cums, or she's showing signs of not enjoying it...but with a SP, there is a time limit on the session- and several hundred $$$s on the line no less. How would you go about dealing with that?
Now, I've been fortunate enough to find some very good SPs who, either orgasm in reasonable time (fake or no fake), or smoothly suggested that she wanted to fuck- a great way to let your client off the hook IMO, but what if they're not saying anything either way?

telling them to stop would be considered rude, usually sp's wait for the move from the client, if he keeps on munching, that usually is a sign that he is LOVING it and thats what he wants to do right now, telling him to stop or attempting to move away and then he grabs you back and shoves his face even further usually means SP will have to lay there even longer and just wait...I would suggest the SP find a way out within a reasonable time, being down there too long especially if the guy isn't totally clean in his mouth/throat can lead to a bladder infection.

I have, after a reasonable amount of time, suggested we move on, but then I immediately can tell the client is not really happy and I feel guilty, and it shows in his erection (slowly getting limper), he seriously just wants to stay down there the entire time! It can be extremely exhausting and tiring, I'd much rather do other things...

 

[Booblover123]

Cameron sure does start some popular threads here.She definitely is a call it like is girl.I saw her a year ago and she is an elite sp and one of the best times i have ever had.Personally i am a one shot per session guy and usually spend most of the time trying to please the ladies,but i can see how some guys want 2 if they pop early.I think her point is probably aimed at they guys who want a second go with 10 minutes left in the session hoping the girl will go overtime no charge to please him.Its a tough call if you put no msog in the menu you probably loose a lot of business so what do u do.I have a lot of respect for the girls,this is a tough way to make a living.

 

[oneoldone]

I can only speak for myself, but I ALWAYS attempt to achieve orgasm with my clients. I mean, you're there anyway. Why not enjoy it to the fullest? I think what gets tiring is when, again, the porn aspect comes in, and men think that they can just rub away (sometimes almost literally ound at a clit, and a woman is going to writhe with pleasure, cumming over and over again. It isn't a button. Just like you, we need a break between orgasms, and things are very sensitive in that general area for a few minutes after. But to purposely avoid orgasm...how do you do the task at hand well if you're avoiding pleasurable feelings? Wouldn't that be robotic and obvious?

You might find it better to stick with the older guys who are more likely to be satisfied with a nicely paced one shot session as opposed to the younger types wanting a 4 hour non stop romp with a nymphomaniac.

 

[marsvolta]

Not to belabour the point, but 'neither the tongue, nor the cheek' come through in your posts. I maybe missing your intention, but at times there is a whiff of conceit and a waft of criticism. I would simply state in your ads 'I prefer to balance the social and intimate elements of my appointments and am not interested in 60 minutes of sex', 'msog is ymmv', 'I am not a pse provider', 'no 69', 'no digits in vagina or anus', 'don't ever try to face fuck me', and 'if you are male - please keep your ass averted from my eyes at all times, I find them generally revolting'. Problem solved.

what he said. truth in advertising. its the major component of the discussion on this board.

its human nature that consumers of goods and services demand more and for the producers of those goods and services to attempt to maximize profit by providing as little as possible. its a constant tension that is the free market.

the sex industry is like any other sales business, its mostly about hiding this nature of the providers. we are all familiar with the "fine print" or what we didn't know before we bought something that made it unsatisfactory. this board exists because consumers have a need to expose those aspects of the the sex industry and find the truth about the provided services because undeclared "fine print" is rampant in sex trade exchanges.

so complaints about clients demanding more for their money are really naive at best. particularly when the "fine print" is never advertised and would probably be detrimental to business given that other girls make a tidy sum by implying that it might happen (YMMV) and then just denying the service as standard protocol.

Cameron and any other provider are allowed to set the services and the price. but consumers are constantly being pushed in the direction of showing up at the door, depositing the money under the door, and leaving. because THATS the model that maximizes a providers cash flow. everyone reading this understands it being a component of every exchange.

so DO advertise that you fuck for only 20 minutes no matter how long the appointment. but DO NOT come back and complain about the drop in appointments because of a lack of interest and your decision to boost the price of half hour visits to astronomical amounts to attempt to mitigate the shortfall in cash flow. nobody said making $300/hour was supposed to be easy work.

deal with that.

 

[UhOh]

Whats with the guys making all that effort to get the SP to cum? You're probably her 3rd or 4th guy that day and by then not even Leonardo Dicaprio munching down there would have any effect. On top of that if you happen to be twice her age you may be deluding yourself if you believe she's enjoying any of it.
Best to just take care of business, get in and get out. Don't expect to rock her world.

 

[Caramel]

so DO advertise that you fuck for only 20 minutes no matter how long the appointment. but DO NOT come back and complain about the drop in appointments because of a lack of interest and your decision to boost the price of half hour visits to astronomical amounts to attempt to mitigate the shortfall in cash flow. nobody said making $300/hour was supposed to be easy work.

deal with that.

hah totally agreed!

Whats with the guys making all that effort to get the SP to cum? You're probably her 3rd or 4th guy that day and by then not even Leonardo Dicaprio munching down there would have any effect. On top of that if you happen to be twice her age you may be deluding yourself if you believe she's enjoying any of it.
Best to just take care of business, get in and get out. Don't expect to rock her world.

and double agreed!!

 

[mounty]

its funny in the sense how people try to achieve in a hour or two things they could not achieve in days. Just enjoy the quality time and do not worry about the quantity.

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

Whats with the guys making all that effort to get the SP to cum? You're probably her 3rd or 4th guy that day and by then not even Leonardo Dicaprio munching down there would have any effect. On top of that if you happen to be twice her age you may be deluding yourself if you believe she's enjoying any of it.
Best to just take care of business, get in and get out. Don't expect to rock her world.

What we enjoy sexually has a lot to do with our earliest sexual experience. An overwhelming number of the men who come to see me tell me that their initiation into sex was by a woman over 30, and that they were taught exactly what was necessary to make her orgasm, and before they got to cum, she made sure she'd had as many as she wanted. For those guys, the sexual experience is all about a woman's orgasms. A lot of them have also found that it's a much more satisfying ride in a pussy that's orgasmed than one that hasn't! It's that simple. Just getting in & getting off isn't enough. Jerking off isn't enough, or they'd stay home & do that.

Try this sometime:

1. Find a woman who's actually experiencing an orgasm while masturbating & willing to allow you to observe it.
2. When she allows you to, insert a clean finger in her vagina
3. Observe what happens. You should feel muscular contractions, increased wetness, elevation in temperature, involuntary purring noises, etc.
4. Increase the level of intensity of stimulation & repeat until she orgasms AGAIN.
5. Observe what happens. Eyes may roll back into head, chest may flush, bedding may be soaked (in rare instances, lips become slightly cyanotic; eyes may tear involuntarily & uncontrollable laughter could result.
6. Predict what that would feel like on your cock & balls.
7. Perform the necessary steps to test your prediction.
   

 

[UhOh]

What we enjoy sexually has a lot to do with our earliest sexual experience. An overwhelming number of the men who come to see me tell me that their initiation into sex was by a woman over 30, and that they were taught exactly what was necessary to make her orgasm, and before they got to cum, she made sure she'd had as many as she wanted. For those guys, the sexual experience is all about a woman's orgasms. A lot of them have also found that it's a much more satisfying ride in a pussy that's orgasmed than one that hasn't! It's that simple. Just getting in & getting off isn't enough. Jerking off isn't enough, or they'd stay home & do that.

I certainly never suggested jerking off as any part of seeing an escort.
My experience hasn't paralleled the overwhelming number of you clients. My first sexual experiences were as a teenager with other teenage girls and later living with different women.
Sorry but I stand by my earlier comment. It is never my intention to make an escort cum. If it happens great but reality is that's not what I'm paying for

 

[Surrey's Jewel]

I agree! But what you described is a very valid situation where msog wouldn't be a problem with me. I mean when one or both people achieve climax, and there is no pause. No conversation, no moment to catch your breath, just constantly and aggressively trying to be sexual, or attempting to do things without consent first, like stuffing fingers into my butt or trying to face fuck me. I guess I would say it's a ymmv thing. I would never be the type of SP to try and get you off as quickly as possible and send you on your way. I'm actually always a littler weirded out when I have clients leave early, and I wonder if I did something.

I totally agree that there should be some space between the first round and 2nd. I find it strange when the client's first shot is just finished and they are instantly right back at things full speed. It's odd. Everyone is different though.

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

I certainly never suggested jerking off as any part of seeing an escort.
My experience hasn't paralleled the overwhelming number of you clients. My first sexual experiences were as a teenager with other teenage girls and later living with different women.
Sorry but I stand by my earlier comment. It is never my intention to make an escort cum. If it happens great but reality is that's not what I'm paying for

I should clarify: I meant to say that for a number of clients who are within 10 years either side of my age, though it's the same with some of the younger ones too. After all, they do come to see me because I'm an older woman, not a peer. There are certainly those other types as well. I see a fair few PSE guys too. I'm not discounting your opinion/experience as invalid, just sharing an observation from my own.

 

[LADY-VIA]

There are ten minutes left until the end of the session, and my client starts stroking and hinting that he wants to go again. I think to myself. Did he spend a significant amount of time scrubbing up in the shower upon arrival for me ? Did we spend a significant amount of time chatting after the first go ? Did I take initiative or attempt a second shot ? Did he ask about msog in his initial contact ? Can I make it happen ?

The answers may be yes, yes, no, yes, and damn straight I can, Im a pro! and then I jump right back on it.

Its the clients job to communicate what he wants, and its our job to make sure we understand his requests and can meet his expectations before accepting the date.

If I took the initiative and it was declined until the last few minutes of the appointment time ticking down, then it may be a different story.

If you ( a client) wish to go more than once, but also require a rest time in between rounds, then you should book more time instead of trying to push the session at the very end, which in turn puts alot of pessure on the sp to perform magic in moments. However if there was a loss of the time you paid for, spent doing everything other than exactly what it was you came for, then I dont think its out of place for you to speak up and keep the session going the way you want it to go.

Do I enjoy being poked and mauled non stop for the entire hour ? No. Some times I dont. Theres only so much you can do to me before I start to get sensitive, or just dont want it.. How do I prevent myself from being mauled ? I kid nap a particular part of the mans body in my mouth, which in turn some what immobilizes him. Problem solved. its not easy all the time, and not every client is a breeze but I find that it all evens out for the most part in the end.
Some men are into the journey, and pleasing the women they see. Some just want to get off & I dont think they mean any offense towards the women that they see. Its a bonus when a client gives back in any form, but they pay for a service. I expect to be paid, respected at all times and for my clients to show up clean & on time but thats as far as my expectations go. Anything else thats given is a bonus. Im paid to do a job and thats exactly what I do.

On the plus side. I do have quite a bit of fun, with quite a few of my clients, where the money factor is actually the bonus on top of everything else. I'm positive I'm not the only girl where at the end of the session can't help but giggle and think " I can't believe I got paid for that too & tipped !" Score and score

 

[tiger69]

@UhOh
"Whats with the guys making all that effort to get the SP to cum? You're probably her 3rd or 4th guy that day and by then not even Leonardo Dicaprio munching down there would have any effect."

ROFL! Now that is funny. Thanks for the laugh for the day.


On the point about trying to make them cum, I think it's all depending on, as Ms. phoenix pointed out, how you were taught sexually, and how you've always practiced sex. To me, having sex with a partner that orgasms is just that much better than one that doesn't, or one that fakes it "badly..."
I guess in the end, everyone is just that bit different when it comes to what gets them off sexually.

 

[Insatiable Appetite]

Wow....common sense...awesome

There are ten minutes left until the end of the session, and my client starts stroking and hinting that he wants to go again. I think to myself. Did he spend a significant amount of time scrubbing up in the shower upon arrival for me ? Did we spend a significant amount of time chatting after the first go ? Did I take initiative or attempt a second shot ? Did he ask about msog in his initial contact ? Can I make it happen ?

The answers may be yes, yes, no, yes, and damn straight I can, Im a pro! and then I jump right back on it.

Its the clients job to communicate what he wants, and its our job to make sure we understand his requests and can meet his expectations before accepting the date.

If I took the initiative and it was declined until the last few minutes of the appointment time ticking down, then it may be a different story.

If you ( a client) wish to go more than once, but also require a rest time in between rounds, then you should book more time instead of trying to push the session at the very end, which in turn puts alot of pessure on the sp to perform magic in moments. However if there was a loss of the time you paid for, spent doing everything other than exactly what it was you came for, then I dont think its out of place for you to speak up and keep the session going the way you want it to go.

Do I enjoy being poked and mauled non stop for the entire hour ? No. Some times I dont. Theres only so much you can do to me before I start to get sensitive, or just dont want it.. How do I prevent myself from being mauled ? I kid nap a particular part of the mans body in my mouth, which in turn some what immobilizes him. Problem solved. its not easy all the time, and not every client is a breeze but I find that it all evens out for the most part in the end.
Some men are into the journey, and pleasing the women they see. Some just want to get off & I dont think they mean any offense towards the women that they see. Its a bonus when a client gives back in any form, but they pay for a service. I expect to be paid, respected at all times and for my clients to show up clean & on time but thats as far as my expectations go. Anything else thats given is a bonus. Im paid to do a job and thats exactly what I do.

 

[tiger69]

@Insatiable Appetite:

"Some men are into the journey, and pleasing the women they see. Some just want to get off & I dont think they mean any offense towards the women that they see. Its a bonus when a client gives back in any form, but they pay for a service. I expect to be paid, respected at all times and for my clients to show up clean & on time but thats as far as my expectations go. Anything else thats given is a bonus. Im paid to do a job and thats exactly what I do."

Beautifully put. I think that's as mature and professional a response as it gets.
Personally I think if there's overall better communication from both sides and alot less ego, the experience can be much better for all parties involved.

 

[paprides]

Try this sometime:

1. Find a woman who's actually experiencing an orgasm while masturbating & willing to allow you to observe it.
2. When she allows you to, insert a clean finger in her vagina
3. Observe what happens. You should feel muscular contractions, increased wetness, elevation in temperature, involuntary purring noises, etc.
4. Increase the level of intensity of stimulation & repeat until she orgasms AGAIN.
5. Observe what happens. Eyes may roll back into head, chest may flush, bedding may be soaked (in rare instances, lips become slightly cyanotic; eyes may tear involuntarily & uncontrollable laughter could result.
6. Predict what that would feel like on your cock & balls.
7. Perform the necessary steps to test your prediction.

1. 
   

[/QUOTE]

I wish someone had so eloquently relayed this most valuable information to me following puberty.
The simple act of learning from one's partner's physical reaction, in addition to having a frank conversation regarding expectations, personal preferences and desires? Invaluable!