Thoughts on MSOG for one hour appointment....

[SeductiveCameronDEL]

It always has to be the people that push the boundaries that wreck it for everyone else....

I didn't think it was going to be necessary, but it's slowly coming to MSOG being a restriction on one hour calls. Sorry to the lovely guys that don't take advantage, and just want a 2sog because they get the first one taken care of so fast, but there's been a wave of clients recently that treat my body like it's a one hour pass to a jungle gym, and someone just yelled GO. Continuously grabbing and poking and tweaking my body immediately after we just finish the first round, or attempting to fuck my face, or trying to have a 60-minute start-to-finish PSE, which I don't offer, at all. It makes me feel yucky, and there are enough SPs out there that offer PSE. First of all, for the most part, porn isn't real. I don't have any interest in perpetuating a stereotype that women love being semi- or fully violated during sex, especially with someone who is virtually a complete stranger. It scares me. I don't even do that stuff with boyfriends unless I'm really, really feeling it. The most recent example was when a client had 2sog, and then with 5 minutes left, asked for a bj "real quick" for round three. I said no. I'm completely GFE, and I enjoy chatting to my clients and connecting together as people, not feeling like I'm a series of holes to imaginatively stuff until a buzzer goes off and it's time for you to leave. Again, there are SPs that are totally cool with that. I am not one of them. Why not just seek that type of experience out with someone prepared for it? Ugh, and if anyone says "it's probably a power thing", I get that. If that's the case, it makes me feel even more yucky. Ultimately though, I just stop seeing clients that I remember do this to me, and I warn friends in the business about them as well. Kind of a losing situation for the dude.

I get that time with an SP is a short luxury for a lot of people. But please, please remember that the product in an SP/client situation is an actual person, and everything requires consent, including treating a person like a plaything sex doll. If you disagree with that, I'm not the SP for you.

 

[badbadboy]

There have been a few SP's I've known who only entertained MSOG on 90 min or longer dates.

They didn't enjoy the mechanical aspect of two shots in 60 min.

If you are promoting a quality over quantity experience, most guys will get it.

 

[voodooking]

I always treat an SP like a person rather than an object.
I think many clients pay an SP and have the feeling that they own her for that period of time which is pathetic.

I agree 100% that porn style sex is not real and can be not very enjoyable to perform for both parties.
A great GFE blows away any PSE in my opinion.

As for msog during a session I would honestly prefer to climax once and enjoy it rather than to try and pop a second time during a session just for some type of male ego thing.

 

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

I always treat an SP like a person rather than an object.
I think many clients pay an SP and have the feeling that they own her for that period of time which is pathetic.

I agree 100% that porn style sex is not real and can be not very enjoyable to perform for both parties.
A great GFE blows away any PSE in my opinion.

As for msog during a session I would honestly prefer to climax once and enjoy it rather than to try and pop a second time during a session just for some type of male ego thing.

I had a streak a while back where I was exceptionally busy in a 12 hour period & saw three vigorous gents (one a member who has reviewed me twice before we reunited...) who all stated explicitly "I really want to try to cum twice this time!" at the outset of the appointment. All three of them said after the first round "You took it all out of me; there's nothing left, and I'm perfectly OK with that!" and left smiling at the end of their hour because of the way everything unfolded. Quite frankly, I prefer to see the type of guy who's more interested in how many times he can make me orgasm in an hour before he allows me the pleasure of enjoying HIS orgasm! :nod:

 

[Caramel]

haha I totally agree with you, but the sad part is, most clients AND sp's will think that is what they have signed up for. That $200 to $300 dollars for 60 minutes (which in my opinion because I'm lazy and hate exercising, is an EXTREMELY LONG time) has to be used up every single second/minute, doing something sexual.

There seems to be a disconnect here between the idea of escorting and service providing, escorting is when you pay for companionship, you are paying for her time to spend with her, so that means you could be talking, cuddling, massaging, eating, walking, or just staring at eachother etc etc. Service providing or the type of "street" sex work is when you are doing sexual favours for money, totally different. But unless you want to give 10 minute blowjobs for 80 dollars a piece, and 15 minute full service for $100, you are signing up for that type of treatment whenever it arises with that type of client when you agree to offer a full hour for a bundle deal.

The other thing you can do is offer NO msog or limit it to 2 only, and then for the rest of the time only offer companionship, like a massage, and be very firm about it, don't be a sex doll.

On this thread the nice guys are commenting about how they only need 1 and see a SP as a human being, but then you go into the review section and there are hundreds of complaints about a $200 hour rate with no MSOG - or even a 45 min rate!

 

[voodooking]

I never said that I was " nice " but I am " kind " to people if I enjoy their company.

I am not the typical ego driven male that needs to cum multiple times to feel like I got my money's worth. ound:

haha I totally agree with you, but the sad part is, most clients AND sp's will think that is what they have signed up for. That $200 to $300 dollars for 60 minutes (which in my opinion because I'm lazy and hate exercising, is an EXTREMELY LONG time) has to be used up every single second/minute, doing something sexual.

There seems to be a disconnect here between the idea of escorting and service providing, escorting is when you pay for companionship, you are paying for her time to spend with her, so that means you could be talking, cuddling, massaging, eating, walking, or just staring at eachother etc etc. Service providing or the type of "street" sex work is when you are doing sexual favours for money, totally different. But unless you want to give 10 minute blowjobs for 80 dollars a piece, and 15 minute full service for $100, you are signing up for that type of treatment whenever it arises with that type of client when you agree to offer a full hour for a bundle deal.

The other thing you can do is offer NO msog or limit it to 2 only, and then for the rest of the time only offer companionship, like a massage, and be very firm about it, don't be a sex doll.

On this thread the nice guys are commenting about how they only need 1 and see a SP as a human being, but then you go into the review section and there are hundreds of complaints about a $200 hour rate with no MSOG - or even a 45 min rate!

 

[Caramel]

I never said that I was " nice " but I am " kind " to people if I enjoy their company.

I am not the typical ego driven male that needs to cum multiple times to feel like I got my money's worth. ound:

hehe I know I'm just sayin, theres all different colors here! but you definitely seem nice! which is a good thing...and the OP and the rest of the SPs will have to deal with every type of guy!

 

[golferjohn]

I never said that I was " nice " but I am " kind " to people if I enjoy their company.

I am not the typical ego driven male that needs to cum multiple times to feel like I got my money's worth. ound:

Is it ego or just being cheap? The client that only sees an SP as an amusement park, is likely to continue as it's his DNA/whatever. Water finds it's own level, so refusing service to that personality-type and providing PSA's for other SP's isn't altogether different than a client writing reviews for others to use as a guide.

I can only imagine the 'grapevine' among Sp's runs fast and true, so any particular offensive behavior could/would be weeded-out quickly enough and said client would need to find an SP more aligned with such predilections.

 

[tiger69]

Lol I can totally confirm what Ms. Phoenix said...after my session with her- well it was two hours but still, I was so drained I could've become a monk (for the next week or so anyway).

Honestly this whole MSOG thing puzzles me a bit. For someone who have problem even getting off one shot in two hours at time like me, it's beyond imagination how someone can do two or more in a hour. Don't people know that the quality of the orgasm is oh so so much better when you hold it in longer? I think MSOG should be something that, if it happens, fine, but shouldn't be something one go out of one's way to achieve. Maybe some of them figure if they get off two/three/four shots a hour, they get their money more worthwhile? I wonder if they try to do it multiple rounds without break when they masturbate too lol.
Responding to Ms. Phoenix's orgasm comment, I do have a question on that- maybe that's better on its own topic...not sure... But, I have heard from multiple providers that when they are with clients, they either don't orgasm at all and have to fake it, or they don't like to orgasm cause it makes them tired. With info like that, I can see many clients simply decide that trying to make a SP orgasm is a waste of time. In fact, personally speaking, I have one favorite SP that always fakes her orgasms, and it's getting to the point that I'm wondering if it's worth my time to daty at all cause it's like a vicious circle- me try to please her, she tries to act like she's pleased, and me, knowing she's acting but try to act that I don't know anyway...lol

 

[LalaniElectrica]

It's totally unacceptable for any person to touch any other in a way once you've asked them to stop or change the activity to something that's mutually enjoyable. I've had a few pushy guys being in the fetish world, who want this, or try and demand a last shot at the 5-10 min mark... if they are willing to extend the session and offer a little extra I sometimes go to overtime, but I always suggest a 90 min-2 hr appt for msog. If they naturally cum 2 times through the hr I'm totally fine with it, and I have told people that it's not a full-on pse-style fuck fest. It usually works but maybe 5% or 10% of the time we both know he's drained so we agree beforehand if it's too much of a chore the gent will help finish himself off or we just throw in the towel and enjoy all the other nuances that are available, soft gentle caresses, my body on theirs or vice versa and kissing chatting etc...

Your poking comments and grabbing comments are the main reasons I say digits are ymmv as most gents think what's in the porn movies is actually what's enjoyable, which is only half way true for most of us. All that being said, I once did this non-fs appt with this guy who just stared at me while he jerked off and came literally 6 times in a row within a half hr... lol... I've never seen anything like it before... lol lol...

Tips for gents, know yourself, if you are going for msog and fuck like a porn star, simply request it when booking, and book a longer session, or be prepared to offer a little extra $ if the session goes overtime because you are enjoying yourself. Also ask your provider to teach you what pleases them and learn how to pleasure a woman correctly so it's more enjoyable and the lady is more receptive.

Ladies, speak up during the session, not in a bossy way, but give guidance to your clients and direct them to what you like. If they do not listen to you, simply ask them to kindly leave as they are not respecting you as a human being. Be sure to receive your donation up front especially for new guests. Learn Self defense as well would be another suggestion!

 

[diamondd5243]

For me, the second sog always feels a lot better than the first so i personally love msog. I can still go twice in an hour and consoder myself lucky when it's offered. That being said, most of my sessions are now 1.5-2 hrs and have never pushed for a 2nd sog.

I've never thought of it as a male ego thing.

 

[marsvolta]

really? another provider is complaining that guys pay for an hour and want to fuck for an hour?

 

[SeductiveCameronDEL]

Snip... I have heard from multiple providers that when they are with clients, they either don't orgasm at all and have to fake it, or they don't like to orgasm cause it makes them tired...

I can only speak for myself, but I ALWAYS attempt to achieve orgasm with my clients. I mean, you're there anyway. Why not enjoy it to the fullest? I think what gets tiring is when, again, the porn aspect comes in, and men think that they can just rub away (sometimes almost literally ound at a clit, and a woman is going to writhe with pleasure, cumming over and over again. It isn't a button. Just like you, we need a break between orgasms, and things are very sensitive in that general area for a few minutes after. But to purposely avoid orgasm...how do you do the task at hand well if you're avoiding pleasurable feelings? Wouldn't that be robotic and obvious?

 

[SeductiveCameronDEL]

really? another provider is complaining that guys pay for an hour and want to fuck for an hour?

Step right up ladies! This man will treat you right!

 

[CanineCowboy]

My opinion is mixed on this topic. Generally I just go with the flow of an encounter and feel satisfied with a single orgasm, but I find that sometimes I still feel a strong sexual desire after my first orgasm and want to have further sexual contact. If a woman isn't interested, I would never push her, but I would feel misled if she advertised msog on an hour appointment. My take would be that it would be fair for me to assume consent if she advertised msog and if she isn't interested in msog she should also probably advertise that fact, so there is no uncomfortable misunderstandings.
Knowing that msog is a possibility, allows me to relax and enjoy the experience more in the moment and not worry about climaxing super quickly. In one encounter, recently an escort had got me so stimulated in the first 10 minutes of our appointment with foreplay that I came in about 2 seconds or less of engaging in vaginal sex. She made me totally comfortable with it because she told me not to worry, she was game for round two after a break. Her response wasn't any different from my experiences in the civilian world.
So Cameron I would say set your own rules and be clear to potential clients about it. As an aside, I don't know if you realize it, but the tone in some of your posts comes across as quite aggressively negative and judgemental of clients you service, maybe you should try a better screening process?

 

[Man Mountain]

My opinion is mixed on this topic. Generally I just go with the flow of an encounter and feel satisfied with a single orgasm, but I find that sometimes I still feel a strong sexual desire after my first orgasm and want to have further sexual contact. If a woman isn't interested, I would never push her, but I would feel misled if she advertised msog on an hour appointment. My take would be that it would be fair for me to assume consent if she advertised msog and if she isn't interested in msog she should also probably advertise that fact, so there is no uncomfortable misunderstandings.
Knowing that msog is a possibility, allows me to relax and enjoy the experience more in the moment and not worry about climaxing super quickly.

Excellent post! :clap2:

 

[Insatiable Appetite]

Yes, really. Deal with it.

Nice contribution.

 

[SeductiveCameronDEL]

Excellent post! :clap2:

I agree! But what you described is a very valid situation where msog wouldn't be a problem with me. I mean when one or both people achieve climax, and there is no pause. No conversation, no moment to catch your breath, just constantly and aggressively trying to be sexual, or attempting to do things without consent first, like stuffing fingers into my butt or trying to face fuck me. I guess I would say it's a ymmv thing. I would never be the type of SP to try and get you off as quickly as possible and send you on your way. I'm actually always a littler weirded out when I have clients leave early, and I wonder if I did something.

And Canine, this is part of my screening process. I don't its unfair to ask that I'm treated like a human being. My posts are meant to be tongue in cheek and also informative, and they do weed out people who are looking for that kind of visit. I post about the experiences I've had so I can hopefully avoid them in the future.

 

[CanineCowboy]

Not to belabour the point, but 'neither the tongue, nor the cheek' come through in your posts. I maybe missing your intention, but at times there is a whiff of conceit and a waft of criticism. I would simply state in your ads 'I prefer to balance the social and intimate elements of my appointments and am not interested in 60 minutes of sex', 'msog is ymmv', 'I am not a pse provider', 'no 69', 'no digits in vagina or anus', 'don't ever try to face fuck me', and 'if you are male - please keep your ass averted from my eyes at all times, I find them generally revolting'. Problem solved.

 

[newman78]

I guess I'm an odd duck, when I meet with an SP I make just as much about them as it is about me. I take the extra time to make sure the SP Im with cums at least once if not more. Im usualy a 2 shot guy but if the chemistry is right then I'll try for a 3rd but I'll usually put in an effort not just expecting the SP to make it happen them selves.