The white man stole Canada & the USA from the Native
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LMAO!
wow get over it.
that was a long long time ago. By people I don't know personaly.
Life will go on. so move on.
wow get over it.
that was a long long time ago. By people I don't know personaly.
Life will go on. so move on.
Are you suggesting the NA Natives came from elsewhere and killed all the NA dinosaurs?
So criminal acts and atrocities like holocausts should be ignored and forgotten
because one is on the winning side {white} and it happend "long ago"? Remind
me not to enter into a business relationship with such folk ;
Shoulda had better Immigration Laws in the first place..........saves lots of problems down the road.............
They may not have killed the dinosaurs but they did originate elsewhere.
http://www.crystalinks.com/nativeamericans.html
yeah maybe man, just maybe the natives came from somewhere else on a straw boat or log canoes and killed all the dinosaurs with their weapons of mass destruction. by the way, the vikings will have to give up the land and return it as well, and also the greeks to give back to the gods etc...... like stated above its so looooong ago, i couldnt give a fuck. yeah it may have been done in a barbaric way?? but im living here now, and ill be damned if i gotta give you my piece of land that i worked for. i guess this will be a life long fight for the natives, it seems they wont give up on this issue. by the way, arent we doling out enough for the reservation cost and tax exemptions and many other things you get? get over it, we share the land now, be a productive part of society and quit this whining.
I don't know where you come from but I'm white and I was born here, this IS where I come from. = )
This is where my parents come from.
On my mothers side of the family this is where her parents come from.
Canada is where my mothers, parents, parents come from.
The past cannot be changed and making a statement like the one you made if you meant it is actually quite idiotic. Do you realize what it would take for the diaspora you speak of to actually happen? Think about it, many Canadians are of bi-racial backgrounds and ethnicities. I for example have a background of British, Irish, Italian and Austrian. Where would I go? That's also assuming any one of those countries would let me immigrate there. Does your proclimation also apply to non whites that have immigrated to or where born in Canada or also have roots here for several generations, how about the desendants of slaves that we're brought against their will to North America, do they just go back to Africa, and if so which country in Africa, how do they trace their roots?
Although the past cannot be changed, I'm a big believer in going forward in a positive direction. I'm not unsympathetic to the plight of the First Nations People, my mom's husband and my younger brother have First Nations blood in their backgrounds. I grew up in a small town where there were two large reserves and I have many good friends from First Nations tribes.
My honest opinion, get rid of the reserve system and do a better job of integrating First Nations people into Canadian society. By giving hand outs and let's face it, setting up an appartied system of land reserves, Canada has created a First Nations culture that in many cases is dependent on hand outs. The most successfull tribes in Canada have strong Chiefs that preech the ideology of personal and fiscal responsibility.
There are many problems in some First Nations communities that are a direct result of the arrival of Europeans in North America, we've all got to work together to get these issues in check and move foward because the status quo has not worked. Canada is a stronger and better nation with a happy, healthy and proud First Nations culture and people.
What you made was a very uneducated and simple statement. I think you need to think about this one for a bit.
hahaha...btw i'm not a native {but of Euro origin} and not whining, although i might have a bone
for righteousness and justice ;
I don't see how that gives you a right to live on stolen lands. By the law of justice
this land still belongs to them. The song that says "This land is our land", etc is a
blatant lie.
yeah i know, but we are so far beyond that now. i mean the post couple above by smakyo hits it right on the head. who would we really be giving it back to??? there is justice, but then there is also statute of limitations, (im just throwing that in there) we are waaaaay to culturally diverse to just say "give it back"
In your opinion did an injustice occur? And at what point in history could it have still been given back, if not today?
Personally i think if a Perfect Being wanted to settle this now, he could do it fairly. It's not too late.
i wouldnt be shy to say that how the natives were treated in the past was an injustice, however i strongly believe that we cannot give the land back. we all own it now. it is just as much mine as it is yours. i was born here, and i am entitled to ownership as well. so who would we be giving it back too? no one, cause it belongs to us all. thats why i say get over it, it happened so long ago. i think this argument is a total waste of time. the natives are being whiny babies about this. everyone and anyone could probably find something tied to them from history and try to claim ownership somehow! i bet if i looked hard enough i had ownership in microsoft and coca cola! maybe i should pester them too?!
Haha, LOL...thanks for laugh, anyway. Any more to add?
"And at what point in history could it have still been given back, if not today?"
"Personally i think if a Perfect Being wanted to settle this now, he could do it fairly.
It's not too late."
Give me a break dude. Alright you want to get educated, let me educate you. The people that call England home are not in most cases native to that land, They're made up of Saxons, Franks, Atrebates, Gaul's to name a few. Are you to tell me that everyone in England has to trace their roots back to whatever tribe they were a part of before the founding of England as we now know it and go back to what is known as their original region?
How about the native tribes of the area now known as France, it's been a land that has been fought over for a very long time. Franks, Gauls, Goths, Visi-Goths, Vandals and even the Hun's called the land home before it's foundation of modern France. How about modern day Russians who for the most part are the desendants of early Scandanavian peoples. Russia was a make up of lot's of different nomadic tribes of Europe and Asia. What happens there? Do we test everyone to find some genetic link to the oldest set of bones we find burried in the region.
The reason your arguement is still an argument (and a weak one at that) is because in terms of history the European annex of North America is a fairly recent event and the record keeping was a little better then say the time when we communicated with cave drawings. If you go back far enough every bit of land on this earth has had it's "Native" tribes displaced by another tribe of people.
When you can present viable solutions to what you see as a problem, I may take you more seriously. In the mean time I really hope you don't try to test my knowledge of ancient geography and anthropology because that would be a losing battle for you.
Yes, well, Vancouver has become Hongcouver, and will soon become New Hong Kong {like New York}. At least this was not accomplished by theft, murder and genocide, which most here seem fine with ;
financial power in its own way is a form of theft, genocide, murder whatever you want to call it. its just a modern stealth form of another weapon. this too will decide and displace many people. looking back generations from now, people will call us barbarians as well! now go eat a donair man! you need to chill seriously.
So, bottom line, because it has happened before it's ok, or so complicated to unravel to be unsolvable by a Perfect Being? Perhaps to a fragile limited weak mortal brain such as yours ; But you do agree that unjust thefts of lands, murders of nations and annihilations/holocausts of peoples have occurred, correct? That this is the bloody and pathetic history of mankind?
