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The differentiation between attitude and service??

Cami Parker

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So I've noticed that reviews are often broken down into categories... Looks, Attitude and Service. Looks, that's obvious and can clearly stand on it"s own unaffected by the other categories. Objectively, one can acknowledge a lady's physical beauty even if the time spent together was not necessarily the best experience he's ever had. That being said, it seems like attitude and service are very intimately intertwined. From my understanding on the definition of attitude that is. Can you even have good service that comes with a bad attitude? For example, if I'm at a restaurant and the server is "technically" bringing out the food efficiently, filling my water glass in a timely manner, but with a sourpuss face on, or dismissively telling me the specials with a "who gives a shit" air about them, and stalking off everytime they leave the table... well then I suppose technically, the tangible service was fine as they did what they were paid to do, but I don't call it good service unless it"s service with a smile. In my opinion, one is unable to provide goos service with a bad attitude. Do you really want to be with someone who's physically doing a good job but is clearly miserable while doing it? That being said, obviously it's broken down this way for a reason, and I would love some different views on the subject, because obviously I'm not getting it. LOL
 

take8easy

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So I've noticed that reviews are often broken down into categories... Looks, Attitude and Service. Looks, that's obvious and can clearly stand on it"s own unaffected by the other categories. Objectively, one can acknowledge a lady's physical beauty even if the time spent together was not necessarily the best experience he's ever had. That being said, it seems like attitude and service are very intimately intertwined. From my understanding on the definition of attitude that is. Can you even have good service that comes with a bad attitude? For example, if I'm at a restaurant and the server is "technically" bringing out the food efficiently, filling my water glass in a timely manner, but with a sourpuss face on, or dismissively telling me the specials with a "who gives a shit" air about them, and stalking off everytime they leave the table... well then I suppose technically, the tangible service was fine as they did what they were paid to do, but I don't call it good service unless it"s service with a smile. In my opinion, one is unable to provide goos service with a bad attitude. Do you really want to be with someone who's physically doing a good job but is clearly miserable while doing it? That being said, obviously it's broken down this way for a reason, and I would love some different views on the subject, because obviously I'm not getting it. LOL

I thought L A S stood for Looks, Attitude and Sex!! In this hobby, I think Attitude and Service kind of go hand in hand. Based on my experience, good service was given to by the ladies with good attitude. Bad service for me was always accompanied by bad attitude. But someone with good attitude might not be good in the sex category. I have experienced that personally.

But you have differentiated Attitude and Service fairly well.

T8E
 

golferjohn

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I thought L A S stood for Looks, Attitude and Sex!! In this hobby, I think Attitude and Service kind of go hand in hand. Based on my experience, good service was given to by the ladies with good attitude. Bad service for me was always accompanied by bad attitude. But someone with good attitude might not be good in the sex category. I have experienced that personally.

But you have differentiated Attitude and Service fairly well.

T8E
I interpret 'service' as a PC way of saying 'sex', and I'll agree with 8 that a great attitude doesn't automatically translate into great service...but it sure helps :) IMO, Id much prefer an SP w/a wonderful demeanor and willingness to share vs. a stellar technician any day of the week.
 

badbadboy

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Attitude and Service go hand in hand.

Attitude is the SP's approach to the client about providing the service as specified within the SP's boundaries. Making the experience top notch :nod:

Service is the actual fulfillment and how stylishly it is presented. Some SP (and clients) are very passive, some are not. I love spontaneity, creativity and when an SP wants to do something out of the norm. Bathroom counters, Kitchen counters, shower sex to name a few.
 

felixthecat

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Attitude/Service categories must have come from pre-GFE era. In GFE, a certain attitude is a part of the service definition. But even these days, many go happily without it both on provider and client sides.

Can you even have good service that comes with a bad attitude? For example, if I'm at a restaurant and the server is "technically" bringing out the food efficiently, filling my water glass in a timely manner, but with a sourpuss face on, or dismissively telling me the specials with a "who gives a shit" air about them, and stalking off everytime they leave the table... well then I suppose technically, the tangible service was fine as they did what they were paid to do, but I don't call it good service unless it"s service with a smile.
If the server leaves bitemarks on the cork, being unskilled, he's low on service even if he has the best attitude.

On the other hand, the server could be openminded and willing to, say, lick the plates afterwards if the client desires. That has to be recognized as above-and-beyond service, even if the server does not demonstrate GFE attitude to clients. There will be people recommending him to each other, "go see this person if you want your plates licked".

A good example of the latter case was a retired SP whom I'll call Nicole G. She initiated rimming on the clients, which is definitely above the average service offering. Yet she's known for one of the most hateful rants on PERB about her clients and getting satisfaction from hustling them.
 

Caspian403

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I was with a lady recently who had a fantastic attitude. She was friendly fun and engaging. She really wanted to make my experience great. The actual service however didn't match with what I wanted physically. Her BJ wasn't the right pressure at the right time to keep me going.As for our real naughty time together, any position where she had control our pace just didn't match. I couldn't achieve climax unless I set the pace.

Looks fantastic, attitude fantastic, lots of appropriate talk and enthusiasm, service- not a match.
 

westwoody

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Yes, you can have poor attitude but good service.
 

jamasianman

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Usually a poor attitude can detract from good service. If she gives you the best blowjob of your life but complains when she's not sucking and is generally just not fun to be around, its gonna detract.
 

girth-brooks

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Attitude is the bow that ties the entire package. I will not spend time with someone that isn't into making a general effort in every category of the experience.
 
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(snip) For example, if I'm at a restaurant and the server is "technically" bringing out the food efficiently, filling my water glass in a timely manner, but with a sourpuss face on, or dismissively telling me the specials with a "who gives a shit" air about them, and stalking off everytime they leave the table... well then I suppose technically, the tangible service was fine as they did what they were paid to do, but I don't call it good service unless it"s service with a smile. (snip)
I've had this happen. I kind of felt that it was a real hassle for me to be there, so I cancelled my order and left. When they asked why I just said I didn't like the 'atmosphere'.

Service and attitude are very much combined. If you feel like you're not wanted there, how can you enjoy yourself?
 

badbadboy

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Well... yes, you can have a great attitude with sub par service, sadly, but would you consider it great service with a sub par attitude?? Even if technically, she was great?
That is an interesting question which is totally realistic.

Sort of like the talented sexual gymnast type that spins around doing her moves while not giving a thought about if the client is also enjoying themselves? So technically the clients along for the ride ;)

Been there and I recall seeing this SP a few times thinking the attitude would catch up with the service. The SP was with one of the agencies and told it was a GFE gig. Turned out she wasn't personally into GFE but rougher stuff ie loved getting her nipples twisted painfully. It was my first experience with giving and receiving pain.

:jaw:
 

oneoldone

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I've had this happen. I kind of felt that it was a real hassle for me to be there, so I cancelled my order and left. When they asked why I just said I didn't like the 'atmosphere'.

Service and attitude are very much combined. If you feel like you're not wanted there, how can you enjoy yourself?
I am with you on this one( although there are probably some guys who don't care as long as they get their rocks off). It happened once to me with a non SP in the middle of things she says don't mess my hair. My response was to pull out put the pants back on and head for the door. When I got there she asked what are you doing and my reply was I'm not messing your hair.
 

dchoye

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That is an interesting question which is totally realistic.

Sort of like the talented sexual gymnast type that spins around doing her moves while not giving a thought about if the client is also enjoying themselves? So technically the clients along for the ride ;)

Been there and I recall seeing this SP a few times thinking the attitude would catch up with the service. The SP was with one of the agencies and told it was a GFE gig. Turned out she wasn't personally into GFE but rougher stuff ie loved getting her nipples twisted painfully. It was my first experience with giving and receiving pain.

:jaw:
One time I had an SP bite me unexpectedly during BBBJ
Caught me off guard. It was painful and left a red mark that took a few days to heal over
Later told me it was cause I was pinching her nipples to hard which I was unaware
The service was generally good and not rough at all until the bite
I think that would one time that I felt the service was generally positive but negative attitude.
 

Caspian403

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Well... yes, you can have a great attitude with sub par service, sadly, but would you consider it great service with a sub par attitude?? Even if technically, she was great?
I see what you're saying & I agree with you. Bad attitude is bad service.
 

pilpay

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From what I've seen, the correlation is that service is the range of things a lady is willing do and attitude is how "into it" they are while doing it.
 

oneoldone

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If I were you I'd stash a Sasq-light & a flea comb in the trickmobile. ..just in case the opportunity for a Sasquatch Experience presents itself
I am sure we could find one or two pooners who have "seen" a saquatch and give hatrick directions. how about it boys.
 

athaire

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From what I've seen, the correlation is that service is the range of things a lady is willing do and attitude is how "into it" they are while doing it.
Bingo.....my thoughts exactly
 

apl16

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Personally, I find that my attitude and service will greatly affect the lady's attitude and service. When the lady is really trying with a good attitude it makes me mentally happy and can make up for a lack of skills.
 

Dick Ford

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This is so true. I find the more I bring to the table, whether that's a respectful attitude, enthusiasm, attention to grooming, generosity, the better the date will go, mostly. That said, I've had decent dates with great service and not so great attitude, too. They aren't my first choice, but sometimes beggars can't be choosers.

Personally, I find that my attitude and service will greatly affect the lady's attitude and service. When the lady is really trying with a good attitude it makes me mentally happy and can make up for a lack of skills.
 
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