Whether Kev was right or wrong about his actions, does not justify the assault that followed. If so then, where does one draw the line? If someone looks at you the wrong way, you don't have the right to punch his lights out.
Road Rage: What would you do?
- Thread starter Kev
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2 days ago a few guys got to arguing a McD's on Fraser. 1 guy pulled a machette out and took a few swings at the other guy who was trying to defend his brother. The man had to get his hand re-attached yesterday. This probably resulted from a little incident no bigger then Kev's. When you pull out a bat, the other guy may have a machette. When you pull out a machette, the other guy may have a gun. Maybe the US invades Iraq. Maybe a few buddies on the other end of a cell phone. Where does it end?
This is an excellent point.
It makes me laugh to read all these posters say that they would have gotten out and kicked the skinny sh1ts ass.
The skinny guy may have been all talk or he may have been a crazy fukk who in addition to the baton had a shank or even a gun in his pocket. Or even his buddies in another car.
So unless you are prepared to deal with the consequences of that you should keep your mouth shut and look the other. Sure it sux that your safety was threatened and your car was damaged but things could have been worse.
This isnt 20 years ago when people fought fair and only used their fists. And the correctional system is full of skinny sh1ts who commited assault, manslaughter or murder.
Id forget about this and drop it. It sounds like youve got a job, a car... essentially a life. This guy might be a low life with nothing to lose and if you pursue it then he may find out who you are and decide to take out some revenge.
This may not be the way things should work but its todays reality.
It makes me laugh to read all these posters say that they would have gotten out and kicked the skinny sh1ts ass.
The skinny guy may have been all talk or he may have been a crazy fukk who in addition to the baton had a shank or even a gun in his pocket. Or even his buddies in another car.
So unless you are prepared to deal with the consequences of that you should keep your mouth shut and look the other. Sure it sux that your safety was threatened and your car was damaged but things could have been worse.
This isnt 20 years ago when people fought fair and only used their fists. And the correctional system is full of skinny sh1ts who commited assault, manslaughter or murder.
Id forget about this and drop it. It sounds like youve got a job, a car... essentially a life. This guy might be a low life with nothing to lose and if you pursue it then he may find out who you are and decide to take out some revenge.
This may not be the way things should work but its todays reality.
deke said:
Kev- no double standard. I said Bertuzzi should be charged because he attacked someone. I recommended you file a report for the same reason. Where's the contradiction? I said file a report - I didn't condone the guy's actions, but do you really think the incident would have happened if you had just slowed down and stayed behind him? You provoked a guy who happened to be a nutso. Like you said - this is how people die - and for what - so you could get to the end of the block four seconds sooner? Go report the creep.
The final outcome to all of this is. I did file a report with the Vancouver Police. And the only reason i did was the majority who added to this thread said i should. Because on my own accord i would have turned the other cheek.
I was hoping i could do it over the internet but when you have a name or a plate number it then becomes a matter where the police come to your home to investigate. I was set to go to the 5 with the boys but i had to delay it because i had to wait for LE to show up.
I told the police the truth..........i passed the guy over street curbs he got pissed off blah blah blah. What was interesting is the police asked me how far do you want this to go? I said i don't want to press charges but i do want the perpetrator to be made aware that his actions are unacceptable.
When i was at the 5 at about 11pm i received phone call from LE stating that they tracked the guy down in Richmond. He confessed to what he done and he appologized. Well if your thinking thats pretty lame it is not, because tomorrow i'm contacting ICBC to file a damage claim to my car. And this is going to cost him a hell of alot more than me trying to go through the courts pressing charges. I don't think i would have gotten very far through the courts, but if i can make him pay a dollar figure.........that would be POSITIVE.
In the end no one wins the whole incident was idotic and just didn't have to happen. --- Kev
I was hoping i could do it over the internet but when you have a name or a plate number it then becomes a matter where the police come to your home to investigate. I was set to go to the 5 with the boys but i had to delay it because i had to wait for LE to show up.
I told the police the truth..........i passed the guy over street curbs he got pissed off blah blah blah. What was interesting is the police asked me how far do you want this to go? I said i don't want to press charges but i do want the perpetrator to be made aware that his actions are unacceptable.
When i was at the 5 at about 11pm i received phone call from LE stating that they tracked the guy down in Richmond. He confessed to what he done and he appologized. Well if your thinking thats pretty lame it is not, because tomorrow i'm contacting ICBC to file a damage claim to my car. And this is going to cost him a hell of alot more than me trying to go through the courts pressing charges. I don't think i would have gotten very far through the courts, but if i can make him pay a dollar figure.........that would be POSITIVE.
In the end no one wins the whole incident was idotic and just didn't have to happen. --- Kev
CT your IQ is equal to that of a mouse. Once again you open your trap and shit flows out.Cock Throppled said:
Ok your reading comprehension is lacking so i'll spell it out for you.
I was speeding? (NO i did not and, and this is not the issue.)
I passed him in a safe manner? (Yes i did but this is not the issue either.) If there was a problem with what i did the police would have addressed that. They did not. If you want to find fault with me you can not.
The issue is the guy assaulted me, and he admitted that to the police. Can you understand that CT? (I didn't think so
) I didn't provoke anyone with my driving. This toothpick for whatever reason took this incident way to far. I hoped hes learned from this and it will be the end of this stupidity. In the end no one wins because...........well if we were to pick someone............i win. Because toothpick will pay fincially and he'll have a police record that he carries forever. --- KevI've discussed this logically and respectfully. You seem to have the inability to do that and resort to childish insults. I NEVER claimed you were speeding. YOU are the one who passed someone else - Over speed bumps no less. If you had just slowed down behind him- under the speed limit or not it wouldn't have happened. Geez - talk about not comprehending. I'll say it again - read slowly - you provoked a nutso - HE took it too far - HE was the one who assaulted you and your car - HE is the one most at wrong. Just try to comprehend that you NEVER know who you're dealing with and how they will react - so why allow the incident to begin in the first place by doing something so stupid as passing over speed bumps that are meant to slow traffic and didn't get you any further anyway? Do you also pass cars slowing in school zones? The lack of respect you've shown me while arguing here shows immaturity.
CT it was very late and i over stepped with my tone and i apologizeCock Throppled said:
There was nothing wrong with me passing him in the manner i did. I passed him over those pumps at a greater speed but was in no way dangerous or reckless in my driving. I told the police what i had done they didn't see any wrong in it. What do you do when someone is holding you up? Well i go around.
Its a drivers prerogative to drive the speed they wish on a side street. I don't complain if they do, however i don't have to sit behind them and follow. 59th street is very wide. 5 cars can drive down it side by side. So if i swing to the right i am in no way near another vehicle.
I'm not going to run my life because there is a slim chance that i might meet some whacko. They only thing i can do when meeting up with one is handle the situation correctly. And i feel i did that. --- Kev
I think you did the right thing kev, by making this guy pay out of pocket for his actions may make him think twice the next time he tries this, going through the courts would have been a waste of time. I too get frustrated with slow drivers , either pull over to the side or get off the road.
Fukkum hitrack,I dont care what the dude pulls up in,if he gets in the curb lane,Its on!hitrack said:
Personally I would've charged the clown and also made the ICBC claim. If he was charged and it went to court even in the case of an aquittal he would've spent $2k/day in legal fees at the very least. If he was convicted the judge would have definitely ordered him to pay for the damages in addition to whatever other penalties would have abeen acessed against him at sentencing.
I would also suggest that you invest in a baseball bat or any other tool of your choice since you do not want to be completely defenseless should this clown had decided to smash your window and come after you or worse you and your family. If you carry anything like a bat make sure u occassionaly use it for what its intended for and hence have a legal justification of why you carry it around eg. no reason to carry an axe if you dont camp! LOL
I would also suggest that you invest in a baseball bat or any other tool of your choice since you do not want to be completely defenseless should this clown had decided to smash your window and come after you or worse you and your family. If you carry anything like a bat make sure u occassionaly use it for what its intended for and hence have a legal justification of why you carry it around eg. no reason to carry an axe if you dont camp! LOL
I went to ICBC about the damages to my car. ($260 dollars worth) They said that the only way to make this sucker pay is to press charges, because the police won't release the suckers name to ICBC otherwise. Even then i have to pay my deductable, in hopes i get reimbursed from this clown. If he fights it, it could be a long time before i see my money back. I decided to drop the claim against my car, its just not worth it. Plus the damage was only cosmetic. But this jerk does have a police record now, so if he decides he wants to be Babe Ruth again he better think twice. --- Kev
Kev - I think you're mistaken, here. He would only have a record if convicted. With your complaint, but no charge it has only been recorded as a complaint against him. It WILL red-flag him if he commits an offence, but doesn't give him a record.
