My recent HK and China trip: sex141.com girls; KTVs

[SaveThe7]

There is a place on Broadway right near the old Bowmac sign that advertises Chinese visas, it's a photo/copy place. I used them a few times for my old job and I think the six month multi entry was $90 tops. You can get multi entry no problem and there's no messing with the consulate if you go through them. The only thing is your passport has to be valid for more than 6 months longer than whatever visa you are asking for.

To be a little more clear, if you want a six month visa you need at least a year left on your passport. And like someone else said always put tourism, never business. I went to China 6 times for work, never had a problem. Had some fun but not as much as you =p

In HK I usually stayed in Jordan or Long Quay Fong but I did always make at least one trip to Fenwicks while it was still around, after they closed I just used sex141.

In China I was usually in Shekuo but I travelled around a bit, after reading your experiences I think I'd have a lot more fun if I went back and I have friends there still but I have 0 desire to go honestly.

Funny what you posted about Help in Rio, that place was old when I was there 15 years ago. I'd love to go back, I never got laid so much in my life and rarely paid for it. For those girls sex is just a friendly hello, I only wish it was cheaper and quicker to get there, it's a long damn trip.

 

[Chica Chaser]

<B><s>San Jose, Costa Rica</s>
Camaguey City, Camaguey Province, Cuba</B>

It's 8:00 PM now. I didn't sleep well at all. Between thinking...

<I>Whoops! Was interrupted by a Skype video call from Xiaoyan - the bed warmer that did not fuck me until near the end of my trip. Talking with her is tedious. She can't speak English so I have to translate what she types and then my reply. A simple conversation takes sooooo long. She's cute though so it's hard to hang up.</I>

As I was saying: between thinking about what I left out of this report; what I should put in; and how to keep it (somewhat) short, well, I just couldn't get to sleep for hours. Plus I'd just had a few good online road races - in iRacing. It's a SIM! Not a game.

Right now I'll try to think of things I should/must say about Cuba...

Um. Not many Americans go there. They're the freest people on earth but if they go to Cuba they could be fined or jailed - I think. Go figure...

If you visit you'll probably see a lot more Canadians than Americans. Germans and Italians too. Don't know about English and French. I don't remember meeting any.

Really though you won't see many tourists at all unless you stay at a resort. The two times I went I didn't, so I saw very few foreigners.

That reminds me of another problem with Cuba:

THE FOOD SUCKS!

I can't say what resort food is like. It must be alright for Cuba to compete with other Caribbean resorts.

Holguin City actually had a few restaurant options that, while I wouldn't want to eat at them for very long, were better than Camaguey City's.

In Camaguey City there was really only one restaurant that I went to. It had about two items on the menu that were, well, they were better than starving. Microwaved pizza and spaghetti.

In the Casa Particular I stayed at the typical meal was greasy chicken with rice. Maybe fish too but I don't eat seafood.

No. Don't go to Cuba's non-tourist ready cities for good eating. Go there if you want to lose weight though. That's practically guaranteed.

Two years after this first trip I went to Havana, on a very cheap charter flight, for a one week non-hobbying look-see. In my carry on I had several cans of Stagg Chili; a couple of Instant Noodle Soups; and a few other yummy things I can't remember. I was very glad to have brought them too.

In Camaguey City though, in the department stores that sell first world luxuries - like shampoo; soap; toothpaste etc - along with clothing and household goods - did they sell first world grocery items? I don't know. I didn't think to look. Certainly there were no stores in the streets that did.

Let's see... What else needs mentioning?

I want to make clear what I meant by Grand Pussy Central. I didn't really give a clear enough picture of what I saw. I mean, it's not just that I saw gorgeous girls of every skin tone. It's that there were so many of them! Dozens and dozens and more dozens. Most dressed very nicely too. (That's one thing about Latin America: the people don't have much but, generally, they do take care to dress well).

Of course this spectacle was bittersweet - being that I was two months shy of forty-eight. Thirty + years older than most of them.

What else to say?

Casa Particulares, as I've already mentioned, are like Bed and Breakfasts. Across the country you'll pay, or would have then at least, 25 to 35CUC. In the two weeks I was there I stayed in five(?) different ones - plus one Casa Illegal. (I'll talk about them later, as I believe they are key to having a successful pooning vacation in Cuba).

Of the five legal Casas I stayed in I'd say one was very nice, if small; one was nice - and pretty spacious; the others, well, they served their purpose. Actually one of the less nice ones, the one Il Italiano was at, had one thing going for it: a rooftop patio. It was very nice sitting up there looking at the clear, star filled sky.

This is a good place to explain how Casa Particulares handle guests that want to bring temporary girlfriends "home," (And it usually IS their home your staying in. More accurately, a Government house that the family is permitted to live in - if they behave).

Therein is the problem with allowing local girls to sleep with foreigners. They risk losing their license to operate as a Casa Particular - or their place to live entirely. They DO NOT want to be sent to live in the kind of shacks those on the outskirts of the cities, and in the country, live in.

So, knowing that a lot of the single men that visit Cuba would not if they couldn't bring girls home, they tolerate it. They tolerate it IF you bring just one girl and keep her for the duration of your stay there. That's what they'll tell you at least.

My experience was that I brought what? I think three different girls to the first Casa I stayed at in Camaguey City. All three were brought late at night - the third being the one I kept for four nights and days. I did have to move to another, nicer, Casa due to a guest's, with a reservation, arrival.

As already mentioned in passing, when a girl is brought back, the Casa must record her ID in their registry. La policia make regular checks of the books so, again, they do that or they take a big risk.

Likewise the girl is taking a risk. No normal, respectable girl would put her name in such a registry. She could probably get away with it once or twice but if she gave in to the temptation - being the "easy" money - once, well, how's she going to stop?

If she doesn't stop she will surely be tagged as a prostitute and either shaken down or sent to a work camp.

See the problem? I don't know why my four nighter was alright with the process. She didn't seem like a pro but maybe she already had an arrangement with the local law enforcers. She really seemed like a normal college age girl though. Hmmm.

Casa Illegales:

As mentioned, I stayed in one, in Las Tunas. A jinetero showed me to the place. It was there that I passed two nights with a girl that blew me but wouldn't fuck. He introduced her to me too.

A word about jineteros...

AVOID THEM LIKE THE PLAGUE!!! (More on this later).

The Casa was not even close to as nice as the worst legal Casa I stayed in. It seemed safe enough though; had a decent enough bed, and a private bathroom. All that a pooner really needs when he has a pretty girl with him.

Just as with the legal Casa "owners" he instructed me to bring the girls, one at a time preferred, at night. He was alright with me bringing a different one each night though. None were going to go in any registry.

I don't know how such places operate without being shut down quickly. You'd think the neighbors, maybe mainly jealous of the money being made, would rat on them. Can they possibly pay off the entire street?

Now that I think about it though, the legal Casa owners pay a substantial monthly fee to "the people," Maybe the illegal ones, which I expect are typically not so close to where tourists want to stay, get by paying a similar amount to key neighbors? More experienced Cuba travelers probably know the answer.

In any case, it's good for pooners that they exist. If ever I return to Cuba to hobby it is the Casa Illegales that I will seek out. Decent ones though. They do exist.

This is a good place to leave off for now. Starbucks is about to close.

Continued next post...

 

[Chica Chaser]

SaveThe7,

Thanks for the helpful info - and the teaser about Rio. It is the pooning place that is still most dear to my heart.

 

[King Arthur]

Wow I was away for a few days and missed a number of posts
Thanks CC for keeping things going!!!

I've been to Cuba about 8 yrs ago, staying in a nice resort.

It's just like you said - the people are very very poor, sadly so, and so the authentic Cuban food you find OUTSIDE of the resort does kind of suck. They don't have a lot of variety and due to the Embargo don't get a lot of options. The resort food is fantastic, as it is different and flown in by the resort.

I never imagined pooning there, and would find it difficult for the reasons you gave.
Incredibly nice people, safe for tourists, but difficult to easily find women to poon with.

 

[King Arthur]

Rio

I definitely enjoy the China/HK content the most, since I loooooove Asian women, but I'm also looking forward to when you talk about Rio.

You have it as the clear #1 on your list, yet that would be the country I would be most scared to visit.

In China and Cuba, even though they are poor counties, tourists are respected and protected. I felt very safe in both countries. But in Rio, the crime rate is so high, towards foreigners and nationals alike, that I would be extremely worried for my personal safety to go on a pooning vacation there. Yet it seems like it was your favorite place.

 

[Chica Chaser]

You have it as the clear #1 on your list, yet that would be the country I would be most scared to visit.

Rio does have its own section, what is it? Crime and Safety? On the ISG.

I went to Cuba in '07 because of the reputation both Colombia and Rio have.

Help Disco was ground zero for crimes against tourists. I didn't have any trouble though. Sure the beggars were extremely annoying but none assaulted me. It probably helped that my apartment was in a building a stone's throw from it.

Now that Help is no more the area around it is back to normal. I heard that from an American Expat that lives in Copacabana. He loves that it has closed for good. I wish it hadn't - for a reason that will be made clear in my post about Rio.

 

[Chica Chaser]

<B><s>San Jose, Costa Rica</s>
Camaguey City, Camaguey Province, Cuba</B>

To continue...

I kind of lost my flow; my train of thought. Let's recap why Cuba is advanced pooning:

<ul>
<li>THE FOOD SUCKS
<li>Prostitution is illegal - making the desirable no or low mileage girls (where pay2play is concerned) extremely hesitant to register in the guest book of a tourist's Casa Particular. I'm guessing most, unless they're naive or stupid, would not.
<li>The Casa owners don't like guests to bring a different girl every day. That said, I did get away with it three times at one Casa. Was I lucky or are a lot of them hungry enough to risk it?

Find one sweetheart and keep her till you check out! That's what they like.

<li>The internet is SLOW. They've an advertisement for it that shows an attractive young woman, sitting in lotus position - hands upturned and resting on her knees, holding a fiber-optic cable that is passing between her fingers. Well after trying on numerous occasions to check my Yahoo! Mail and it taking, I kid you not, ten or fifteen minutes - at a rate of 6CUC/hour - I had to laugh. "Right," I thought. "You'd need the patience of the Buddha himself to use the internet here.
<li>THE FOOD SUCKS
</ul>

Let's see. Am I forgetting anything?

Oh yeah...

If you're very lucky your Casa owner <U>might</U> let your girl stay one night without registering. I doubt more than that. If you get back from town very late, so that no neighbors are likely to see, that'll improve your chances.

It would probably also help if you've already had had a girl stay with you. I mean, most Latinas have dark hair and are of similar height. On the dark street, just before you both enter the Casa, even if a neighbor does see it's unlikely they'll be able to tell she's a new catch. I think.

I've listed the negatives. What about the positives?

<ul>
<li>Cuba has many many beautiful young women that earn very little from their government created job. In fact it's not unheard of for Doctors, Lawyers, Nurses... Professionals in general to, uh, supplement their income.
<li>If you go after the non-pros; the part-timers, you're pretty much guaranteed a GFE - IF you treat them as a girlfriend and not as a whore. Non-pros certainly won't be thinking of themselves as such.
<li>It's safe. The risk of assault and/or robbery, by force, is extremely low. There won't likely be a safe, digital or otherwise, in your room so I've no idea of the risk of some of your belongings being stolen.

Actually when I stayed a week in Havana my buddy had the Fido SIM card stolen from his phone. He wasn't using it in Cuba so he didn't notice until we'd left.

We both found this very very disappointing as we'd given that family a lot of things we'd brought from Canada. Of course probably only one of them did it but who?

<li>It's not overrun with tourists - when you get out of the resorts.
<li>There are ATMs. Not many but you only need a couple or three - in case one or two are out of order.
<li>It's CHEAP! Figure 30CUC/night for the Casa; 20CUC for food? (If more, not much more); 30 to 40CUC for your temporary girl friend.

Of course you should do actual research before you go. Prices, for <U>everything</U>, might have gone up.
<li>The people are friendly - but you can say that about most places.
<li>You will appreciate what you've got back home more - for a while at least.
</ul>

Jineteros:

Of all the regrets I've had while hobbying my biggest, by far, happened in Camaguey City - and it involved jineteros.

What's a jinetero? A hustler and, I guess, pimp - though I didn't think of them as that at the time.

A female jinetero is called a jinetera - the 'a' denoting a feminine noun. Jineteras, you can bet, are nearly always prostitutes.

I'd actually read about them before visiting Cuba. My reading didn't prepare me for spotting them though. I mean, when I think of a hustler I think of a fast talking, maybe loud mouthed untrustworthy looking guy. The three jineteros I met were anything but.

The first, as I think I already mentioned, I met in Las Tunas. He struck up a conversation with me while I sat on a park bench. I thought he was just a really friendly guy that liked meeting foreigners. You know... to break the monotony of day to day life there. There's not much to say about him specifically, except that if he had not shown me to the Casa Illegal I've mentioned who knows when I'd have found out they exist.

The other two I met in Camaguey City. They worked as a pair. One was very respectable looking; clean cut. The other fashioned himself after Bob Marley. He had the look down but for the smell of weed. I wonder if he's ever smoked it in his life?

All three of these guys had a few things in common:

(Take note!)

<ul>
<li>They spoke basic English - whereas most Cubans do not
<li>They were very calm looking; spoke slowly and quietly
<li>They smiled a lot and seemed genuinely friendly
<li>They never, EVER, mentioned money - though they did, at my insistence, let me buy them a drink
<li>They are BAD MEN.

I suppose one could be generous and say that they're only trying to make the best of a bad situation. After all, they're not stupid. They know of the riches; the "good life," that exists in faraway lands that they'll never, EVER, get to visit. Why shouldn't they get to enjoy the things we take for granted? In their shoes maybe many of us would do the same.
</ul>

When I say they are bad I say it with hindsight. At the time I wasn't even sure they were the jineteros I'd read about. They just seemed so NICE!

Here's what happened that resulted in my biggest regret:

A cute girl caught my eye. I tried to take her to my Casa but, without her ID, the owners would not let her in. I guess it was when we got back to town, a ten minute walk away, that she introduced me to her "brother," and his friend.

Actually I don't think she ever said he was her brother; he said she was his sister. I was skeptical that a brother would help prostitute his sister but it didn't really matter to me. What mattered is that he told her to go to her home in the country and return next day with her ID. That night I met her was a bust but the next day I'd be getting some sweet pussy! I thought...

The appointed time came and passed next day and the girl didn't show. "No problemo senior. Ella va venir. Espere," they told me. So I waited and while I waited we passed the time chatting. "Are these two jineteros?" I thought. "When are they going to ask for money?" and "If they're jineteros they're certainly playing it cool. VERY cool,"

A couple of hours passed and it became obvious she wasn't going to show. (Yes I was that desperate for some action). I knew it. They knew it. And they knew I knew it. I swear they looked a bit deflated, what with their money making scheme falling apart as it had.

The night was still young. In fact the sun was still bright, still an hour from setting I guess. Throngs of people had been walking past and still were. Among them many young women.

A light went on in my head. (Not literally).

"Maybe you could talk to one of these girls for me?" I said, in Spanish.

This is where I made my biggest mistake of the trip. If you ever go to Cuba and decide to use the services of a jinetero never EVER let them arrange a girl for you.

If you know the going rate for short time and long you won't get over charged. That's not the problem. After all, you can always say "No deal," The problem is that those damn jineteros will extract the money from the girl! I've no idea how much but probably a lot of it.

They'll probably also, if the girl is inexperienced in such matters, hugely overstate the money she's going to receive from the nice rich foreigner. They'll build up her expectations but they'll all come crashing down when you offer her, and hold out for, "fair market value,"

You should have seen them perk up when I suggested my plan. "Game on!" they must have thought.

Right away one of them said "Quien?" ("Who?")

I was in charge now and I told them to hold their horses; that I'd tell them when I spotted the one I wanted.

It was ten minutes until she came along. Breathtaking she was. She walked talking animatedly with a girl friend. Laughing. Smiling. I was smitten and, I'm sure, my pulse quickened.

"That one!" or "Ella!" I said, pointing her out - not really daring to believe I could soon be fucking her.

He walked right up to her; pointed at me; and within seconds she was standing in front of me - looking just as fine up close as she had from a distance.

"Tu sabes lo que yo quiero?" I asked her. ("You know what I want?")

"Si," she said brightly.

Holy fuck! Pay dirt!!!

I checked her ID. She was over eighteen - though I don't remember by how much.

I think we went to my Casa but the owners wouldn't let her in without her registering and she was too smart to do so.

So off we went to find an Casa Illegal. The guys knew of a few but we had to find one that was available.

Continued next post...

 

[Chica Chaser]

<B><s>San Jose, Costa Rica</s>
Camaguey City, Camaguey Province, Cuba</B>

To continue...

In short order we did. The price was 3CUC for an hour I think.

It was a dump. The mattress, I noticed by lifting the "clean," sheet, was half eaten or decayed away; the room had no furnishings to speak of; no proper toilet and no shower!

She was gorgeous though. How could I not go through with it now?

We got down to business; talked money. I knew 20CUC was the going rate so even though I'd have paid a lot more for her in some other country, I wasn't about to overpay there. Besides, you're quickly tagged as a sucker when you do.

"Mui poco," ("Very little,") she said in a plaintive, disappointed voice.

I held firm and she accepted - but said she wouldn't suck me.

I held firm that she would or the deal was off.

She accepted.

At this time I was a bit pissed with her. Totally overlooking the involvement of the jineteros I was thinking "Hmmm. Maybe she's not inexperienced after all?"

So, to my shame, I fucked her beautiful mouth a bit and then got her into doggy position with her ass at the edge of the bed.

God she was beautiful. She had either naturally or sun bronzed flawless skin that shined! Her back; the groove of her spine; her ass; her hair... Everything looked perfect. I was excited, to say the least.

I must have put the condom on in record time and then I was inside her and she was wet! With blood.

Yes she was menstruating and pretty fiercely at that. She was the second girl, of the five I had - not counting the one I let go when she went all mechanical - that was having her period! I'm guessing it's just too hard for these girls to turn down a chance to make a month's wages in an hour or so.

I fucked her a bit and then tossed the condom and came on her back - more than I usually did at that time. Excitement will do that to you.

I told her not to move and got some tissues and cleaned up my mess. We dressed and I left in front of her - remarking to the jineteros, who I was stupidly surprised to see still waiting for us, that she was a disappointment.

I don't know what you all make of this story. What you think of me now. I've told it as a way of saving another girl from the path I <U>might</U> have put her on. As a way of strongly discouraging you from ever involving any such persons in the finding of a girl.

It gets worse though. The biggest hobbying regret ever comes from the memory of what I saw the next day:

At the bicycle taxi area; the place near La Plaza de los Trabadores; the area where some well used looking girls gather to find their next trick - I saw her.

She was leaning against a fence I guess, looking bored and a bit down. She saw me but no new emotion registered on her face. What she thought of me I've no idea.

What a difference the loss of a radiant smile makes. Did I cause that?

I wish I could at least relive that moment - if not the whole sordid affair. I'd go up to her and invite her to sit in the restaurant with me. I'd apologize for being an ass. I'd talk to her and try to make things right. How that would be possible, if my worst fears are true, I do not know.

I fear that those two bastards shook her down for all the money I gave her and told her she owes them even more; threatened to rat her out to the police if she didn't come through for them.

Did they make her their whore? Or is it possible that that beautiful creature was already working that way when I first spotted her in the crowd?

I guess I will never know if I had a hand in fucking up her life.

Now you can understand the reason for my biggest regret. I hope you've learned from it.

Chica Chaser

To be continued...

 

[Chica Chaser]

This will help with the mood CC... that story is a bit depressing.

Yeah it is depressing and disturbing.

I will be writing a bit more about it before moving on.

I like this second video you've posted more than the Brazil one. Neither shows any real hotties but, for some reason, I like this it more.

 

[Chica Chaser]

<B><s>San Jose, Costa Rica</s>
Camaguey City, Camaguey Province, Cuba</B>

To continue...

So what else is there to say before moving on. Hmmm.

Regarding my biggest regret, well, obviously I feel bad about it. I've even thought of going back to see if that girl is working, from the street, where the low rent girls gather.

It would hopefully be a waste of time and money; meaning I wouldn't find her.

That wouldn't mean she hadn't been drawn into the business though. She might just be taking a break; she might be working one of the few clubs; she might be off cause she got pregnant; lastly she might have been sent to a prison work camp.

Without knowing her name and address there's really no way I can find out for sure what became of her. Now realizing how calculating and smooth the two jineteros were, I doubt they'd have let a find like that just go on her merry way after she'd paid them their first demand.

You know... Of the few places I've hobbied Cuba was the first one, and so far only one, where I've done this sort of thing. Meaning, possibly, unintentionally, put a never-sold-herself-before girl on that path. The fact that decent pay2play options were hard to find kind of set the stage for it to happen.

The other girl; the one I kept for four days; she was different. She heard me coming along as I walked back to my Casa late one night. She turned and flashed me a friendly, "Hey how are you?" type smile. Before I could respond some teen on a bike rode up and started talking with her while she walked. I, being a fast walker, outpaced them and was soon at my Casa's door.

As she came near to passing hesitated; was afraid to stop her. To all appearances she was just another college age girl walking home after the concert.

As luck would have it though, Il Italiano and his girl arrived back, in a bicycle taxi, seconds after me - just as the girl was passing. What timing!

Il Italiano, much more experienced in the ways in Cuba, and more bold than I, saved the <s>day</s> night. Reading my face and body language; seeing I was kind of frozen watching the girl pass; he made a kissy kissy sound with his lips.

IMMEDIATELY the girl turned around and smiled.

That was all I needed. In Spanish I said, "Yo tengo un problemo. Tengo una cama grande pero no chica. Quires dormir conmigo esta noche?" (I have a problem. I have a large bed but no girl. Do you want to sleep with me tonight?")

"Si," she said happily.

At that we went to my room and I made the deal I mentioned earlier - about paying her 20CUC just to sleep with me and 30CUC if we had sex.

That girl, while she seemed very normal, probably had at least a bit of experience. Either that or she'd already thought about doing it, if the opportunity came up, and was comfortable with the idea. She must have been a bit of a free spirit to have a tattoo of the Devil on her calve!

On the other hand she probably wasn't experienced enough to have crossed the line between accepting gifts from a lover, sort of, to accepting money outright. Otherwise why would she have jumped at the chance to go shopping - but kept all the receipts?

It seems like a silly distinction I know but I believe, to some (many) girls there is a difference. Hell up here you have service providers that insist on calling the money a donation or tip. I don't know though, maybe there's a way to wiggle out of being charged with prostitution if you don't accept payment for sex - the "donation," being a gift supposedly independent of the, uh, activities?

So I've no bad feelings about that girl. I don't lead girls on either. This one mentioned how it would be nice if we got married. I told her that I didn't come to Cuba to find a wife; and that being married to a girl her age, while maybe not unheard of there, would be ridiculous in Canada.

I also, usually, tell the girls I am like a dog - in that I like to fuck different girls.

<I>Speaking of dogs, we saw two doing it in the street as we passed by in a bicycle taxi. I yelled "Hey! Otros positiones!" ("Hey! Other positions!") much to the amusement of my girl and the driver. Ha ha ha. I crack myself up sometimes.</I>

What would you guys have done if faced with the same difficulties I had in getting pay2play action? It wasn't a conscious idea to me - the notion of finding a fresh girl and putting her on such a path. (I wasn't thinking that far ahead).

If I had it to do over again I am not saying I would not go after the girl. With such a beauty the little head often takes charge. I would do it differently though - and leave jineteros out of it.

Here's how I think it should be done:

<ul>
<li>find a decent Casa Illegal to stay at. Some are every bit as nice as government licensed ones. For that enlist the help of a taxi driver - making it clear that he is to show you to the place but stay outside while you find out the price.
<li>don't mention why you need a Casa Illegal. He'll probably know anyway if he has half a brain.
<li>if he offers a girl to you tell him you're not interested.
<li>make it clear to the Casa owner your intention to (probably) bring a different girl back each night - when it's dark.
<li>now go out and find your temporary girlfriends. The ones that work the street you're probably not going to want. That leaves the ones that work the night clubs. The one that picked me was mechanical in bed but otherwise very nice to be with. Certainly there are others like her that are more natural in bed.
<li>if need be; if you can't find a suitable full or part-timer, you now have the option of bringing a normal girl to your place - since she won't have to put her ID in a registry.
<li>if you doubt that the girl you pick up has ever hired herself out before DO NOT <U>EVER</U> OFFER TO PAY HER CASH - unless you don't mind risking pushing her over a (psychological) line there's no crossing back from.
</ul>

This is an untested "game plan," I thought up. If I ever go back there I'll put it to the test.

Yes I do not rule out going after normal girls. I will never again offer them straight payment though. Nor would I proposition them, to have sex, right away.

A better plan, to hopefully avoid having them make the connection in their mind between having sex, with a stranger, and, uh, prostitution, would be to go slow.

Start a conversation with her by asking her directions or the time or, well, whatever; see how she responds to you; if favorably, and after some time has passed, maybe tell her how pretty she is. If she hadn't guessed before then what you were after she'll start getting the idea.

If things move along well, maybe say something, in Spanish of course, like:

"Listen I really like you. I think you're great. It's too late now (make sure it is) but tomorrow I'd love to take you shopping; buy you some nice new clothes. Right now though, to be honest, all I can think about is what it would be like to make love to you,"

Would that work? Definitely sometimes and maybe often. The whole encounter should feel very natural - admittedly harder to pull off if there's a great age difference.

Done this way a lot of girls would not think of themselves as whores. They'd be giving and receiving pleasure from someone they've come to like. Probably on that island, where the vast majority of the families have nothing in the way of luxury; no endless means of distraction; having sex/making love is one of the only really pleasant ways to pass the time.

Of course even if you don't involve jineteros there's always the risk that they, ever watching and waiting for ways to make a CUC, will take note of the girl with you and bookmark her for a future shake-down. The only way of pretty much ruling that possibility out is by keeping her in the Casa 24/7. But then how would you take her shopping?

Really, for me, I think it's best to stick with girls that have already crossed that line - hopefully of their own free will.

Um. I guess that's it. I can't think of anything else to say really - except for these few points:

<ul>
<li>there are air conditioned tourist buses to get around the island.
<li>a couple of cities are very historic and pretty. I didn't visit them though.
<li>a guy named Pototo - you say Potato, he says Pototo - has a useful website about Cuba. (I think it's his). Check it out at: http://www.cuba-junky.com/havana/pototo.htm.
<li>remember the opening Disclaimer of this Cuba report: YMMV - and things might have changed in three years. Research research research before you go. Or go with VERY low expectations, wing-it, and take what good times you find.
<li>Casas should have air conditioning as well. If you're they're when it's very hot make sure yours works before settling in. It took me days to get a brighter bulb put in the bathroom. There's no telling how long you'd wait for an air conditioner to be repaired
<li>Cuba is somewhat noisy. Not from traffic; from animals. Expect to hear roosters crow through the night; maybe pigs screaming as one of them gets its throat cut. Silicone putty earplugs are invaluable in blocking out a lot of noise. Much better than foam ones because they don't try to expand in your ear, nor do they irritate it. Also a plush sleep mask, with extra padding below the eyes to better block light from that area, will make even the brightest room PITCH BLACK. At first you feel it on your head but after a while it's barely noticeable.
</ul>

Next up is Costa Rica. It should be a MUCH shorter report. The scene there is pretty straightforward and I've no stories to tell. I'll probably use a summation type format to just quickly list the pros and cons of hobbying there.

Chica Chaser

 

[Chica Chaser]

San Jose, Costa Rica

I'm back - for a bit. I renewed my iRacing.com subscription and have spent the last week practicing and racing - trying to get faster.

To Continue...

San Jose, Costa Rica was the first place I flew to specifically for cheaper pay2play sex and, hopefully, better GFE type service. January of 2005 was when I made the first of four 11 day trips there. All days and nights, except for one week during the first trip, were spent in San Jose - the capital of Costa Rica.

At the time I knew next to nothing about the scene there. All I had to go on was a scrap of info, archived by Google I think, from some Usenet Newsgroup. Cheap massage places with pretty girls is what was mentioned. I did have the name of one place but I forget it now and did not find it when I got there.

I didn't know about the Del Rey Hotel with its Blue Marlin Bar/Casino; Key Largo Bar/Restaurant; the many strip clubs - of varying price and quality; or The Sportsmens Lodge. I knew some Spanish though. I picked it up during the five or six two month trips I made to Mexico from '88 to '93.

On the forum http://costaricaticas.com/forums/, and using the same Chica Chaser nickname, I posted about two or three, maybe all four, of those trips. If you're still interested in Costa Rica, as a pooning destination, after I describe Buenos Aires, Colombia, and Rio de Janeiro, head on over to the CRT forums, create a free ID; log in; and then click this link to what turned out to be my most popular report:

http://costaricaticas.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5713

Its title is Second Trip, Full Report. Here's the first few lines...

LOOKING FOR LOVE IN ALL THE WRONG PLACES

THE BEGINNING

Life after mystery girl - with sub-headings such as:

Vanessa; "Money First," Chica; "NO MAS TEQUILA" Chica; Birthday Chica (Name omitted only to protect her job); The China Syndrome; La Colombiana aka "That Tickles"; and A (Very) Local Catch.

Having just re-read it I must say it's pretty good. Some of you have told me that this report is well written. Comparing the two I can't see that I've improved in writing from then to now.

Here I'll summarize what the scene there is like:

For pay2play action you have five main choices: The Blue Marlin Bar; Key Largo; The Sportsmens Lodge; massage places and strip clubs - oh and the transvestites from the street too! Ha ha ha.

There are probably other options now but those were the main ones then and likely still are.

From my experiences there I'd say it's a hard place to get an all nighter. (Toda la Noche in Spanish). As I said earlier though these were my first ever pooning trips so YMMV.

The quality of the girls is pretty good. You've got your local Costa Rican girls, known as ticas (and guys as ticos), Nicaraguan girls (nicas); Panamanian; Dominican Republicans and the (in)famous Colombianas.

Just like in Cuba you can find fair skinned girls and black beauties but, again, no Asians to speak of.

Most of the girls I hired were ticas. Usually pretty, or beautiful, and sometimes gorgeous but alas, always unable to stay the night due to "my baby," One tica, on my fourth and last trip did stay the night though. In fact she was the last girl I had in CR and was a nice way to close that chapter of my pooning life.

I had one nica, twice, that was very pretty and sweet. She seemed very tired though each time I went to the small local bar she worked out of.

La Colombianas are usually, with few exceptions, the most beautiful - even drop-dead gorgeous - of all the girls. Unfortunately they're also, usually, Ice Princesses; Land Sharks. They fly from Colombia to make a lot of money in a short time. Don't slow them down! Ha ha ha.

If you go there you will HAVE to try one or two. I wish you luck in getting the elusive GFE. Go to Colombia, their motherland, if you want that. That's what some CRTers have done - becoming former Costa Rica lovers in the process.

What about those five main choices?

The Blue Marlin Bar is in the Del Rey Hotel. It's open 24 hours as is the casino on the same floor. Walk into this place with a girlfriend/wife and you'll quickly be dragged out of it - with a shit-eating-grin on your face. Most of the girls in the bar area, and some in the casino, are working girls - staff not included - though many a guy has expressed his wish to bang one of the hottie bartenders.

In '05 the asking price was Cien Dollares ($100USD). Many a board member will tell you "NEVER PAY ONE HUNDRED". I tried not to but, well, sometimes you just have to try a girl and see if she's great in bed. In my experience, if they hold out for a full hundred, they aren't.

The Blue Marlin Bar is not a dive, by the way. It's a nice bar in a decent hotel. If you get a room there, which I don't recommend, and pick a Colombiana, she'll be very pleased with the quick turn around time of simply catching an elevator instead of a taxi. She probably won't let it show though.

Here's a link to their website:

http://www.delreyhotel.com/nightlife.php?ids=4

Key Largo is a place I got turned onto late into my trips. At the time I was still suffering from what turned out to be a ten year sleeping problem - so late night venues killed my energy the next day(s). Due to this I only went there a couple of times. It's owned by the Del Rey people, I guess, and has working girls in its bar too. The difference is that it has live bands, sometimes, and a dance floor. As a result less hard core girls tend to go there - though some Land Sharks can be seen here and there. I highly recommend checking it out.

The Blue Marlin Bar is a sight to see but if you're going to hunt in one or the other Key Largo is your best bet for a GFE. It is where I pulled the one all nighter I had in the nearly forty-four nights I passed in Costa Rica.

The Sportsmens Lodge is a great place to stay whether for your first pooning trip to SJO or any other. It's a small place of about twenty(?) rooms that caters to, uh, gentlemen travelers. No man brings his girlfriend/wife there. Only temporary girlfriends.

It's in what, I assume, used to be someone's very nice home - only about a ten minute walk from the Blue Marlin/Key Largo. Several massage places are even closer.

Continued next post...

 

[Chica Chaser]

San Jose, Costa Rica

To continue...

During my trips I mostly stayed at a nearby hotel called El Castillo (The Castle). It's a castle in name only. Really it's a nice, forty(?) room hotel that has regular guests and guys like us. In other words: Low Lifes. Ha ha ha. (I do crack myself up).

At the time a room, if paid with cash, was about $45USD whereas the Sportsmens was closer to a hundred - and a big step up in atmosphere. Not that El Castillo is a dive. Not by any means. It was clean and well managed when I was there. An American named Darren managed it. I don't know if he still does.

Tip: <I>If you stay there ask for room 23. It's on the second (top) floor and at the far end. That means it has no foot traffic outside and it has windows on two sides - for great cross-flow ventilation.</I>

Even if you stay there you're still welcome at The Sportsmens Lodge. They've a bar/restaurant there and a mini Blue Marlin scene now too I hear - though they try to weed the Ice Queens and Land Sharks out I think. There'll be no shortage of Americans, and the odd Canadian (not that we're odd) to speak with.

I still get a chuckle when I think back to a conversation I had with one thirty-something American I spoke with there. I asked what brought him to San Jose; how he'd found out about the scene. He explained that his brother had recently died in a car accident. Struck with the "one never knows how much time is left" type experience of, that both he and his dad flew from Florida to SJO. I don't remember how it came up but he remarked that it was "A bit weird at first having sex in the same room as my dad," - who was also having sex with his girl. Ha ha ha.

Here are links to both:

http://www.hotelcastillo.biz/ (Remember that room 23 is recommended - by me. )
http://www.sportsmenscr.com/

There is another option I recommend: The Hotel Rincon de San Jose. It definitely caters to Eco-Tourists but has an apartment that, in '05 at least, they rented out at a very fair rate. I paid about $45USD if I recall correctly. If more, not much more. Both it and El Castillo are very close to The Sportsmens Lodge. All three are a short walk to Blue Marlin/Key Largo.

Here's a link to it:

http://www.hotelrincondesanjose.com/

And a link to photos I took of it back then. Maybe it's the same; maybe worn more around the edges; maybe recently renovated:

http://s6.photobucket.com/albums/y224/JELB1960/Hotel Rincon de San Jose Apartment/

Let's see... Of the five main places to hunt massage parlors and strip clubs remain.

At the time the popular massage places, for foreign visitors at least, were Oasis - west of Centro (Downtown); Zona Blue; and one other I can't remember the name of right now. It and Zona Blue were very close to The Sportsmens Lodge. Down the hill on the way to Centro. At the time Zona Blue was just a massage place but I hear it's a little hotel too now. Maybe it's a good hotel option too?

I still remember a cute-as-a-button student I did at Zona Blue. She literally had stacks of text books with her in the lounge area. She was about nineteen and pretty sweet - though obviously new to the business. That was evident when she smiled with amusement while pointing to the mirrored ceiling. Whether she liked looking at herself in bed or the 45 year old white guy next to her I don't know. Guess.

I went down on her and at first I thought I had a dud. Then, after about a minute or two's tongue lashing she grabbed the back of my head and pressed me harder into her sweet pussy. Ahhh. I tried to arrange, secretly, for her to come to my apartment (at the Rincon) but she wouldn't without a friend - for security I suppose. Really I was stupid because I likely could have paid the boss for two hours with her, about $100USD or less, and taken her out that way. She probably wouldn't have been worried about security knowing he knew exactly where she was. Ah well.

What massage places are hot there now? If you go tell us.

Now we come to the last item: strip clubs. I'd say they're the best reason to go to San Jose. Certainly don't go there for the city's beauty. It has practically none. For that go to Buenos Aires; Argentina or Medellin, Colombia.

Yes the strip clubs in San Jose were pretty good. They come in three basic types: clip joints that'll try to hoover the money out of your wallet; reasonably priced ones; and the cheap ones that only/mostly locals go to.

Elite is a clip joint I went to. (I don't remember the names of any others). I wrote about my experience there in the first trip report I posted to CRT forums.

The report is titled "Don't Hate Me Because I'm Stupid!" and tells how I managed to spend $750USD there one night - and only got laid once! As I think I remarked in that post, the bean counting part of my brain was completely ignored that night; the little head was doing all the thinking. I knew better too! I knew I could have full service sex in a massage place for about $30USD. I don't think I knew about the Blue Marlin and Key Largo then though. I certainly didn't know about Tango India and, my favorite, Kamur Night Club.

Those two places were great. Tango India had more high end looking girls but a lot still seemed nice - not like the pros that work the strip clubs here in Vancouver. They have/had an actual, full size airplane in that place. A DC3 I think - or something like it. It's a VIP area that you can take girls up into. Kinda brings new meaning to the term cockpit eh? Ha ha ha.

Lap dances there were about... I think $2USD per song? I don't know for sure but they were cheap and the girls were hot.

Kamur was my favorite strip club though. I went there many times. Of all the ones I went to in San Jose they had the most similarity to the peeler bars up here. The ambiance, while not sleazy, wasn't as nice as The Cecil or The Drake - when they were newly renovated. The girls were great though. Pretty girl-next-door types without attitude. Plus Kamur girls put on actual strip shows. In my experience such Vancouver style shows are hard to find in Latin America.

Laps dances worked out to $9USD for three songs and were done in a private booth. As with lap dances everywhere in Latin America full contact is the norm. The girl will be/get fully naked and you can put your hands wherever you want. Maybe even your fingers and tongue if you're lucky. (The booths used to have curtains on them but they were removed because guys were getting too lucky with them in place).

Back then a rather meek looking American owned the place. Now and then I'd see him in there but, what with all the staff, I'm sure he didn't do much managing. A couple of years ago it was bought by that big shaved headed guy that had a reality show shot in a chicken ranch he owned. (You all know what I mean by a chicken ranch, in Nevada, right?)

So now Kamur might be a pricey clip joint or, hopefully, the fun and pretty cheap place it was then. If I ever went back to San Jose it would be for more fun times there and at Key Largo. There are other, better places to fly to though so I doubt I'll ever return. Hell Colombia is only what? Three hours more distant? Buenos Aires and Rio seven or eight?

I should add that pay2play is the norm in most if not all of the strip clubs. Kamur had rooms on site; then it didn't; then it got them back when the new owner took over. Other places might not have rooms but certainly know of short time hotels nearby.

Oh and for some really cheap strip clubs that mainly only local ticos go to try: La Pantera Rosa (The Pink Panther) and Le Grillon. There are others but I can't recall their names. I imagine full service would be less than $50USD in such places - unless they try to give you a gringo price.

Here's a link to Le Grillon's website:

http://www.nightclublegrillon.com/english/

I haven't looked at the site. In fact I'm surprised they have one. Maybe they've gone high end?

...

Remembering that Kamur had a website I did a search for it but Google doesn't have it listed now. I did find the following video on YouTube. It was no doubt shot covertly. From what I can tell there are now two floors to the place - so they must have closed the gay strip club that was on the main floor? Or combined the two. lol.

Looking at that video near the end it seems that none of the girls know what to do up there on stage. They seem bored. That's not how it was in '05.

San Jose would be a not bad place to get your feet wet, so-to-speak, pooning in a foreign land. With minimal planning you could stay at any of the three places I've mentioned; hang out some at the Sportsmens and chat up some experienced pooners. Maybe buy a round of drinks or something. Probably you'd be welcome to go out with some guy(s). They'd get a kick out of showing a noob around; seeing the look on your face when you walk into the Blue Marlin Bar; or when you go to a strip club and have some hot hot hot chica literally drop into your lap to sit with you for a not outrageously priced drink. That happened twice to me at Kamur. Mind you I'd been there more than a few nights so no doubt the two girls had each noticed me buying girly drinks and private dances.

That's about it for San Jose. A nice choice for pooning - until you venture further south.

Chica Chaser

 

[hotjac]

Going to Guangzhou and HK mid-January and might be able to free up a night or two, does anyone having any more info that they are willing to share.

thanks in advance.

 

[shades]

Quote: "into a clip joint and paid about $200HKD ($30USD) to have a very cute Philipina girl sit in my lap and DFK me for half an hour."

Chica, would you be able to elaborate where exactly that would be, i.e specific joint name, or just the surrounding area would suffice. Was it in Wan Chai? I'm on my way out to HK, and would be more than willing to sample this scene. thanks.

 

[lenny]

Quote: "into a clip joint and paid about $200HKD ($30USD) to have a very cute Philipina girl sit in my lap and DFK me for half an hour."

Chica, would you be able to elaborate where exactly that would be, i.e specific joint name, or just the surrounding area would suffice. Was it in Wan Chai? I'm on my way out to HK, and would be more than willing to sample this scene. thanks.

I think he meant the lowtrack in rain city.

 

[winky32]

Not to hijack this thread.... but I will be heading to Chang Ping and surrounding areas in May.... if anyone else is in the area I could show you around. Very seasoned pooner in these areas and I can speak English and Mandarin quite well.

Going to Guangzhou and HK mid-January and might be able to free up a night or two, does anyone having any more info that they are willing to share.

thanks in advance.

 

[sx-man]

Glad you have a good time in China. Thanks for the write-ups.

 

[Chica Chaser]

Colombia; Buenos Aires, Argentina; Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

Well it's been over a year since I've added anything to this already very long thread. A combination of factors caused me to cease writing: an enticing offer from iRacing.com to re-instate my account, and a great disparity in the number of "Thanks for posting," type posts - when compared with the huge view count. How could so many read it and so few say anything?

Now I feel the problem is that one can read posts on this board without being a member; without signing in. So how many of the thousands of viewers were anonymous lurkers? Maybe a majority were.

Regardless of how things were then, for the moment, and inspired in part by tantalizeme's continued mention and high praise of my report, I've decided to write about my top three favorite mongering destinations.

It's important to remember, while reading this, that in Asia I've not been to the Macau, the Philippines or Thailand - just Hong Kong, for three nights, and mainly Changpingzhen for a month. Nor have I been to an FKK resort in Germany - or anywhere in Europe, for pooning that is, except a few nights in Amsterdam (in 2001). That city, by the way, stinks. Literally. It's waterways must be quite polluted.

To recap, so far as mongering trips are concerned, I've only been to, in order: Costa Rica (4 X 11 nights), Buenos Aires (2 X 18 nights and 2 X 8 nights), Cuba (21 and 7 nights), Colombia (21 nights), Rio de Janeiro (10 nights and 2 X 18 nights and 10 nights), Hong Kong and Changping, China (3 and 30 nights). I was all over Mexico from '88 through '93 but never thought to explore the Pay2Play scene there. A huge DOH! moment if there ever was one.

Oh wait! I did, over the course of a week or so, spend about $500 on a beauty working out of Tijuana's Chicago Club ($50 X 10 sessions). That was in '93, at the tale end of my last trip through Mexico, while I was exiting the country by land. That girl was so very hot that it didn't matter to me that she was also quite cold.

In previous posts I've already spoken of Costa Rica - and how after venturing further south to Buenos Aires it fell out of favor with me. I've also written about Cuba and, of course, Hong Kong and China. That leaves the three locales listed in the sub-title to this post:

Colombia; Buenos Aires, Argentina; Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

Incidentally, since my trip to Hong Kong and China, I flew south yet again and visited both Buenos Aires and Rio - plus a new locale: Montevideo, Uruguay - which was a total bust so far as mongering goes.

I'm at a loss to know how I should write about these three places? All-at-once or one-at-a-time in sequence - lesser to best - as I started to do one year ago. I fear that, if I choose the latter method, my interest in finishing this report will peter out before I get to writing about Rio - the destination I love most.

Keeping this point in mind, I apologize in advance if this turns into a mish-mash of random comments.

Commonalities - General

Let me start with what these great mongering destinations have in common:

• They are all Third World countries - whatever, exactly, that means.
• They are all in South America - in case you didn't know - and enjoy mostly mild to hot temperatures unless one goes up into the mountains. Those little mountains they call the Andes.
• They are all Latin countries - settled by the Portuguese in Brazil and the Spanish throughout most of the rest of the continent - though "settled," as a way of describing how Spain took over much of the land, is being very very kind to that country's history.
• Being Latin countries - with probably less than 15% pure blooded Indians remaining - Latin women are, of course, everywhere. Laughing and smiling, fiery (spirited) and vivacious Latinas. Many or most of the girls start learning to dance as soon as they can stand. Meaning they tend to have great rhythm - something that seemed to be sorely lacking over in Hong Kong and China. Even at a young age some girls dance in ways that, well, they really shouldn't be dancing - if you get my drift.
• Latin women seem to love, well, being women! Women's liberation is decades behind where it is here. Consequently it seems that more women dress in a feminine way and don't want to be like men. And they're easier to please, unspoiled, un-gringafied, unless they come from a wealthy family. Even then they're probably a lot more approachable and less snobby than their North American counterparts.
• The above two factors are what make Latinas among the best lays on Earth. Maybe the best.
• The continent is chock full of Spanish Colonial architecture - which I do love. Natural materials abound in all but the most modern constructions. Ceramic tiled floors, hardwood furniture and fittings (doors and such), Spanish roof tiles, stone. Plastic, and the unfinished ceilings that we see so much of here in the First World are, thank God, not yet very common there.
• As a general rule it's cheaper to vacation in South America - though you do have to pay $1000 to $1500 to get there and back. This seems to be changing though, at least in Brazil, where a combination of their strengthening currency and their rising prices, are, very sadly, making that destination increasingly expensive.
• The above means, of course, that eating out usually costs less even in pretty fancy restaurants. For example, '07 in Recoleta in Buenos Aires - the tourist hotspot of that beautiful city - I enjoyed a huge steak with pototoes and vegetables, dinner rolls and a Coke, and full table service on a sun lit patio - for about $10. Due to that country's continuing economic woes that meal might now cost $15. Rather embarassingly, I have to admit that I didn't eat even one meal in Recoleta during this year's visit. Sorry. I did notice that Meal Deals in McDonalds and Burger King now cost pretty much what they cost here. Used to be they were about two thirds our price.

Commonalities - Of the Pay2Play Scene

• When it comes to mongering, none of the three locales are cheap like Thailand and the Philippines - and China. In fact you can pay as much for sex there as you would here but (and especially if you learn some Spanish and/or Portuguese) you don't have to. Cheap options abound. You just have to know where to look for them - and get a bit lucky finding those diamonds in the rough.
• Unless you fail to assert, in a non-violent way, your dominance - the man is King down there. Women expect you to take the lead in most, if not all, matters. Of course some experienced Service Providers will jump at the chance to turn the tables - if you let them. Once you establish who's in charge things should, in theory at least, go more smoothly. (This is, admittedly, an area I need more practice in - being that I so often find beautiful and even gorgeous women while there and can end up being putty in their hands).
• BBBJs are the norm in Buenos Aires and Rio de Janeiro. Not so much in Colombia - though with a little polite begging, err, I mean coaxing la Colombiana will probably comply with your wish.
• Pay2Play Latinas tend to be more like normal girls/women. Meaning it's far easier to find non-hardcore SPs - even very beautiful ones - that aren't cold land sharks. Treat them like a date instead of a whore and, more often than not, you'll be treated more like a (loved) boyfriend than a stranger.
• Stating what I just said in another way, in my experience it's far easier to have a good to great session with a Latina SP - in Latin America - than your typical SP here. Even with a very beautiful, but much more down-to-earth, Latina. Sometimes, maybe still often, for a lot less cost than here. Of course traveling isn't cheap - what with the cost of flights, hotels, and meals away from home. You should like seeing new far away places if contemplating a trip to South America.
• All the usual options for Pay2Play sex are available: hookup cafes, working girl stocked bars, private apartments, medium to high end night clubs, street girls and - in beloved Rio - Termas. Sweet Termas - where every man is made to feel like a Rock Star! For me, Madonna Night Club in Buenos Aires, and 4X4 (Quatro por Quatro) and L'uomo Termas - and Balcony Restaurant - in Rio are my mainstay go-to places for a good time. (As already mentioned on an earlier page Help Disco is no more. Yes, the Copacabana night club with hundreds of working girls has been torn down to make way for a museum. The upside to this sad tale is that Copacabana's seedy night crawlers have disappeared. That, at least, is a good thing).

(Continued next post)

 

[Chica Chaser]

Colombia; Buenos Aires, Argentina; Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

Differences - General

• When someone that actually knows next to nothing about South America thinks of it, they probably think it's filled with dark skinned people - and it's more dangerous than North America. I am speculating here because I forget what my thoughts were before I ever flew south.
• Once they do a bit of research they learn that, sure, there are a lot of dark skinned people but there are also plenty of semi-dark and light skinned as well - and herein are the differences: I believe Colombia's non-Native people are mainly descendants of the Spaniard; Argentina and southern Brazil had lots of Italian and German (and other European) immigrants - as well as at least as few evil (if you believe U.S. State Department propaganda) Persians; Northern Brazil has a higher concentration of blacks - the descendants of slaves. And, of course, in Brazil many Portuguese settled the land too - enough to make its local variant the common language of some 180 million people.
• Researching levels of danger one would probably rank Colombia as #1, Brazil #2, and Argentina #3. I've no idea whether that's a fair ranking. I can tell you that I've never had a serious problem with anyone in any country I've visited. Maybe because I'm tall and don't wear expensive clothing; don't wear a watch; and never wear jewelry. Maybe I've just been lucky. I really can't say. I keep my wits about me whenever I walk unfamiliar streets - whether here or half way around the world.
• A comparison of the cost of accommodation across the three countries would put Buenos Aires as the cheapest - due to an abundance of weekly apartment rentals; Colombia second cheapest - where a hotel is the most likely place you'll stay; Rio de Janeiro the highest - where both hotels and apartments cost significantly more in Copacabana and Ipanema. Ipanema, incidentally, was made famous by this beautiful song:
  
  
  
  That's Adrianna Lima in the video - one of Brazil's most famous exports.
  
  If you are the love-em-and-leave-em type that doesn't care to have a bed warmer for the night, one way you could greatly reduce trip costs is by Couch Surfing! Logistically it requires more planning ahead, accommodation-wise, than I like but its benefits can go beyond the saving of cash - such as to the making of new friends and being shown around town by locals.
• I feel that Rio de Janeiro - or more specifically Copacabana Beach in Rio - is the most beautiful of the three places to visit; Bogota, Medellin and Pereira, in Colombia come second - due to their mountainous settings; Buenos Aires comes third because, even though it's on the Atlantic, you don't really see the sea. However... take away the beach setting of Copacabana (Oh! And its very distinctive and impressive mountains) and the mountains surrounding the three cities of Colombia I've named and it's no contest... Buenos Aires wins hands down. There's a reason it's called The Paris of South America.

Differences - Of the Pay2Play Scene

• The main difference here is price. Colombia should, in general, be cheapest; Buenos Aires second cheapest; Rio de Janeiro the priciest. Unless you seek out the places that the ordinary local man goes to - as opposed to those places frequented, not by tourists, but well-to-do locals. If you seek out such places it can be dirt cheap in each place - but proportionately harder to find beautiful girls/women.
• So far as sexual satisfaction goes you can turn the above ranking on its head. The Carioca's of Rio win hands down; The Porteños of Buenos Aires cum a close second; the more reserved, for Latinas, Colombianas third. Yes in Rio Pay2Play sex might cost more but it's a lot harder to have a bad fuck. In fact, I guess I've had at least fifty, and maybe closer to a hundred, different women in Rio - yet only, and literally, a single handful of duds. One dud, however, resulted in the next girl giving me what was until then the best head I'd ever had! All of those women blew me bareback; more than a few made it their mission to get me off; one raped me! (No not with a strap on!) What I mean is that I told her "Look... I've already had sex three times today so we're just going to go to bed and in the morning we'll make love." What do you think the girl did then? Given the easy out I just offered? She unzipped me, whipped out junior, engulfed him in her sexy mouth; got him rock hard; then climbed on top of me and slipped him inside her. From then on it was game on! (Maybe she was trying to kill me?) Only afterward did she let me sleep. That bitch!!! (Ha ha ha). That was in 2007, during my first trip, and I paid her about $110 CDN in the morning - about ten or eleven hours later.

(Continued next post)

 

[tantalizeme]

Colombia; Buenos Aires, Argentina; Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

Well it's been over a year since I've added anything to this already very long thread. A combination of factors caused me to cease writing: an enticing offer from iRacing.com to re-instate my account, and a great disparity in the number of "Thanks for posting," type posts - when compared with the huge view count. How could so many read it and so few say anything?

Now I feel the problem is that one can read posts on this board without being a member; without signing in. So how many of the thousands of viewers were anonymous lurkers? Maybe a majority were.

Regardless of how things were then, for the moment, and inspired in part by tantalizeme's continued mention and high praise of my report, I've decided to write about my top three favorite mongering destinations.

Incidentally, since my trip to Hong Kong and China, I flew south yet again and visited both Buenos Aires and Rio - plus a new locale: Montevideo, Uruguay - which was a total bust so far as mongering goes.

I'm at a loss to know how I should write about these three places? All-at-once or one-at-a-time in sequence - lesser to best - as I started to do one year ago. I fear that, if I choose the latter method, my interest in finishing this report will peter out before I get to writing about Rio - the destination I love most.

Hey brother,

Nice to see you sharing your amazingly perceptive insights again, on pooning in Latin America.

There may not be an avalanche of appreciative comments, but please don't let that be a deterrent. Most fellow pooners don't seem keen on writing comments (or reviews, for that matter)—and when a thread gets as massive as yours here, the sheer weight of information discourages a lot of people from reading.

I certainly nominate this thread as possibly being the single most interesting I've ever read on PERB, and as far as I'm personally concerned, the most influential. I'm currently saving up for a trip, either to the Philippines or to Buenos Aires!

Looking forward to the next instalment of your report.