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tiger69

He who hungers for more.
Sep 5, 2015
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First off, this is not an attempt at getting cheap/cheaper services- as I said in my reviews, I think attempting to talk the price down is rude and in many ways, distasteful- yeah, and me a Chinese...it's a disgrace I know! I don't really know if there's even a point here- just something that kicks around in my head and, well you know, it's not like I can talk about this hobby with my real life pals or...god forbid, my gf...so here goes:

As far as the pooning crowd goes, I probably rank down there with the more poverty strikken margin- those ladies who's met me have seen first hand my situations, so I am not going to go into details for privacy reason. Suffice to say, despite holding down three jobs, and for the most part, happy with my lot in life, I am, as a "good" friend once so bluntly pointed out, "living constantly on the verge of being homeless."

About 12/13 years ago, when I first stepped into the pooning scene, still young, wild, and full of ideas, I remember I had this one outcall experience where, the lady whom I had a date with, pulled into the driveway of my rented basement suite in her spanking new Mercedes. I almost was too ashamed to open the door for her.

Ever since then, I've noticed this little but vicious voice that constantly biting at me in the darkest corner of my mind whenever I find a SP that's living in some big expensive house, or renting some $3000 apartment in the high end part of town- and this voice says, "You are not worthy, you are a little boy trying to play in a game meant for big people. Why are you spending money on these ladies when they are already 10 times richer than you are?"

I don't know if anyone else feel this way, but the fact is, I've never even bought anything more expensive than a good computer in my adult life. I think the most money I've been able to shelled out in my adult life was when I had to purchase a $10,000 piece of technology for work/school purposes, and that almost did me in lol. When I spend $200 a hour to visit a lady, that's the money that could put food on the table for me for 2 weeks- but to her who drove that Mercedes, man, her shoes probably cost more than that...

Maybe I'm just not for this hobby? Maybe people like me should just...spend our money on food and shelter and put our "fate" in our "hands?" I don't know...it's a question I been wrestling with on and off. This, and other issues, had prompted me to retire from the pooning hobby 12 years, and who knows, may do so again soon... Not looking for price reduction, not looking for sympathy, but more curious on if anyone else's wrestled with the same issue before, have decided to step out because of it, or any other "poor man's tales" that run along the same line. We've all seen great high end reviews of high end providers by some, seemingly super rich people who can spend $800+ on a date and don't lose any sleep over it. I enjoy those reviews, I envy their lifestyle and admire their class, but I am also interested to hear/see things from "my side" of the street.

And for the ladies, any encouraging words for the poor church mice crowd? Have you ever felt bad taking a client's money when you realized that you were alot better off than they were?

There are some very very special ladies who make them selves affordable to the lower bracket folk even when they are so well known and provide such good services that they totally didn't have to stay in this bracket where, admittedly, some very lousy specimens of human kind lurk. For that, I salute you all- and a special shout out to Surrey Jewel for she is a great example of that.

Comments? thoughts? Lets hear it... But don't flame me, I spook easily and when I'm spooked, I hit back...hard.
lol
 

poonmiester

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In my opinion as far as SP out there... many do make lots of cash.... and others are in this hobby...because money seems to flow through their fingers as if it was water.....
You may think this hobby is expensive.... but really..going out spending money on a date or a gf... you will end up spending more then visiting a provider... and may not even get any results.....

Yes there are pooners that spend 1000's of dollars on SP. .. and I know first hand.....when my financial situation was a little more healthy..I did the same....now... of course a allot more careful with the budget..... because the income is not as it once was...

Don't feel bad or ashamed about your situation .... I am sure there are many more in the same boat..... married..2 or 3 kids...and a wife that spends like money is no object..... their pooning budget is as limited as yours may be....

Don't go crazy.... enjoy what you can afford..and never worry about what the SP may think.... for them... you are another customer..... simple ....
 

westwoody

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Jun 10, 2004
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Even Adam Smith thought there was a place for prostitution in the economy.
An occasional recreational hookup with an escort will improve your quality of life.
No need to be a pooning star, once a month or even less is fine as long as you really enjoy it.

As for the expensive apartment, bear in mind that is like her office or storefront. It is not a luxury, more of an operating expense.
 

MichaelP

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Two things: this hobby, just like any hobby, falls into the range of disposable income type expense. Choose wisely how to spend it. To draw a parallel to your grocery bills: You can choose to buy more expensive seafood (say, wild line caught salmon) but you can also find cheaper alternatives (I personally like sardines). But, once in a while, you can splurge. If you can't spend $1K in a single encounter, well, simply don't. After all, don't spend beyond your means. How other people spend their hard (or not so hard) earned cash is up to them.

As for how she spends her money, that's up to her. Whether a Mercedes or $2K pair of shoes, that's up to her. A donation range was set up and you met that criteria. What happens within the set up time is between the two of you. What happens afterwards, well, each to their own.

If you choose to stay away for a while, there is no shame on it. As for regulars, there is a reason why I stick with a handful rather than seeking adventures every single time (please notice I am more of a massage guy than FS guy but it still applies the same way).
 

wetnose

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Lots of Canadians visit specialists who are substantially better off than them - except those specialists are medical specialists (sometimes grossing >$1M a year).

Does this make us any less worthy or less of a human being? Nope

Stop worrying about what people think of you - nobody really cares anyway.
 

resercher

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Apr 30, 2006
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First off, this is not an attempt at getting cheap/cheaper services- as I said in my reviews, I think attempting to talk the price down is rude and in many ways, distasteful- yeah, and me a Chinese...it's a disgrace I know! I don't really know if there's even a point here- just something that kicks around in my head and, well you know, it's not like I can talk about this hobby with my real life pals or...god forbid, my gf...so here goes:

As far as the pooning crowd goes, I probably rank down there with the more poverty strikken margin- those ladies who's met me have seen first hand my situations, so I am not going to go into details for privacy reason. Suffice to say, despite holding down three jobs, and for the most part, happy with my lot in life, I am, as a "good" friend once so bluntly pointed out, "living constantly on the verge of being homeless."

About 12/13 years ago, when I first stepped into the pooning scene, still young, wild, and full of ideas, I remember I had this one outcall experience where, the lady whom I had a date with, pulled into the driveway of my rented basement suite in her spanking new Mercedes. I almost was too ashamed to open the door for her.

Ever since then, I've noticed this little but vicious voice that constantly biting at me in the darkest corner of my mind whenever I find a SP that's living in some big expensive house, or renting some $3000 apartment in the high end part of town- and this voice says, "You are not worthy, you are a little boy trying to play in a game meant for big people. Why are you spending money on these ladies when they are already 10 times richer than you are?"

I don't know if anyone else feel this way, but the fact is, I've never even bought anything more expensive than a good computer in my adult life. I think the most money I've been able to shelled out in my adult life was when I had to purchase a $10,000 piece of technology for work/school purposes, and that almost did me in lol. When I spend $200 a hour to visit a lady, that's the money that could put food on the table for me for 2 weeks- but to her who drove that Mercedes, man, her shoes probably cost more than that...

Maybe I'm just not for this hobby? Maybe people like me should just...spend our money on food and shelter and put our "fate" in our "hands?" I don't know...it's a question I been wrestling with on and off. This, and other issues, had prompted me to retire from the pooning hobby 12 years, and who knows, may do so again soon... Not looking for price reduction, not looking for sympathy, but more curious on if anyone else's wrestled with the same issue before, have decided to step out because of it, or any other "poor man's tales" that run along the same line. We've all seen great high end reviews of high end providers by some, seemingly super rich people who can spend $800+ on a date and don't lose any sleep over it. I enjoy those reviews, I envy their lifestyle and admire their class, but I am also interested to hear/see things from "my side" of the street.

And for the ladies, any encouraging words for the poor church mice crowd? Have you ever felt bad taking a client's money when you realized that you were alot better off than they were?

There are some very very special ladies who make them selves affordable to the lower bracket folk even when they are so well known and provide such good services that they totally didn't have to stay in this bracket where, admittedly, some very lousy specimens of human kind lurk. For that, I salute you all- and a special shout out to Surrey Jewel for she is a great example of that.

Comments? thoughts? Lets hear it... But don't flame me, I spook easily and when I'm spooked, I hit back...hard.

lol
Im impressed you hold down 3 jobs and you have a girlfrend as well.

honestly there have been olny 2 times that I have personaly felt bad with regards to money when seeing an escort and both times It was becase the escort in qestion was trying to take me for as much money as possible. This had nothing to do with how she dressed or what she drove but how she behaved.

I am not by any means a rich person but both those times .

The escort asked me how much i paid for where i lived and both times they seemed to be more interested in my cost of houseing. Than prefoming a service for me . Clearly they where trying to find out how much they could get out of me . Unless there is some sort of weard female sexual fetish for affordable housing that I don't know about . My feeling was look I have paid you the agreed upon fee for service . Money was put in the womans hand before they started asking me about my place like i am a realestate agent trying to sell it to them .

Now unless your considering haveing me sign some sort of loan Agreement for aditional charges That i do not know about . You do not need to know about how much I pay for utilitys. Im serous both asked how much my monthly electrical bill was.



But i swear both times it was almost like just after i paid them Yea Yea we will fuck in a min hon you pay how much again for this place how are you able to get all this so cheep . Talking about my taxes and utilitys hard to beleve but it happens to be a major mood killer for me.

There are two problems that you seem to think you have the first being your telling yourself that you can not aford the services of an sex worker This is a jugment for you alone to make and it is a jugment based not upon what type of car she drives or what type of shoes she has on but what fee she charges you. This whole hobby or any hobby really is about how much do you enjoy it now if the money you part with causes you such pain that it is not worth it to you to use the sex workers serveces lets take this to comical lenghts and say if you spent an hour with a sex worker that would mean you would have to not eat anything but bread and water for a year and be homeless then I would say dont spend money on the sex worker.


The other problem is you read reports on this bord by people who seem to be able to aford high priced sex workers and have more money than you as I have said before we know nothing about anybody on this bord for all you know the man who writes the shineing revew about the high priced escort could have just gotten his tax refund or gst check and is living in a cardbord box and using the internet from a public library computer . or maybe they still live with mom and dad amd thats why they seem to be super rich people who can spend $800+ on a date You have no idea. The olny reqirment for this bord is acess to the internet any prety much anybody in north america can get that.

So these rich men may not be as wealthy as you think. Also realize to the more one has the more he has to lose.

Yes I look at my bank acount and think I can't aford that So I decide not to use the servcies. However I think it is great that we have it avalible to us I wish I had the internet and knew what I know now about how to hire a sp when I was 18 I would have spent less time with porn and more time with real women.

I guess what I am most worred about as a single man Is I could end up being stupid and falling in love with a woman who will try to manipulate me to get every cent out of me and unfortunaltey I have read the about that hapening to men . Mostley when they let the sp into aspects of the pooners life that are not related to sp services.

and unfortunatley there are women who do this type of thing most of them are not even sp but just women who manipulate men for there money and give them nothing in retern


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sevenofnine

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Nov 21, 2008
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I think I said it once before you should have your financial situation in order, and your life for that matter before you start seeing hookers.
It is very easy to get lost in this hobby and carried away and wake up one day and realize you spent your life on porn or hookers or whatever, its the same for booze and gambling enjoy it but beware it has a bite.

I have been to my sp;s house and simply went wow, and asked my self the question how much of that did I pay for, a lot but in terms of her overall wealth not very much,

but like I said I am secure in who I am I was older when I started this, fifty something, maybe to old to enjoy some wild crazy sex part of me wishes I was ten years younger when I started this but then I think ten more years of money spent on this hobby. na I'm good,
you can ruin your life in this you really can.
do it for the right reasons.

sex is nice but not everything.
 
Feb 9, 2016
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Well, you don't have to care how others think of you. The participants and providers of this hobby know that it is no strings attached.

I understand that cost of living is higher and higher, especially u are from Richmond (Correct me if I am wrong). Housing cost is unbearable in Lower Mainland.

Other than my main job, I am actually running a small side business and do a part time job so that I have available cash for this hobby.

Different people like different kinds of hobby, as hobby can be defined as spending money on certain objects in order to meet certain emotional/spiritual needs. For example, some people like to collect expensive watches (Rolex, Omega), Japanese Robots (called Gundam that can range anywhere from $100 to $5000 CDN per robot), etc...
I am no exception, I like to collect On Field Authentic soccer jerseys that cost about $150 to $200 per one. The thing is I just wear them once and then store them in my closet which caused my wife to roll her eyes and said why am I wasting such money. The point that I am trying to make is that as long as you are comfortable spending that kind of money without putting you in a catastrophic financial situation, that is all it matters.

If you are willing to pay, SPs would be willing to provide their service to satisfy you unless you are like a total jerk or something. You do whatever you are happy with and you cannot control how people think. Others could think of you in a thousand of ways, and it will probably drive you crazy if you lose sleep over every thoughts.

In Conclusion, if you are back in this hobby again, enjoy the moment with your girl no matter it is 1hr, 2 hrs, or 6 hrs. As long as you feel happier and better after a date, spending $$$ is well worth it.


First off, this is not an attempt at getting cheap/cheaper services- as I said in my reviews, I think attempting to talk the price down is rude and in many ways, distasteful- yeah, and me a Chinese...it's a disgrace I know! I don't really know if there's even a point here- just something that kicks around in my head and, well you know, it's not like I can talk about this hobby with my real life pals or...god forbid, my gf...so here goes:

As far as the pooning crowd goes, I probably rank down there with the more poverty strikken margin- those ladies who's met me have seen first hand my situations, so I am not going to go into details for privacy reason. Suffice to say, despite holding down three jobs, and for the most part, happy with my lot in life, I am, as a "good" friend once so bluntly pointed out, "living constantly on the verge of being homeless."

About 12/13 years ago, when I first stepped into the pooning scene, still young, wild, and full of ideas, I remember I had this one outcall experience where, the lady whom I had a date with, pulled into the driveway of my rented basement suite in her spanking new Mercedes. I almost was too ashamed to open the door for her.

Ever since then, I've noticed this little but vicious voice that constantly biting at me in the darkest corner of my mind whenever I find a SP that's living in some big expensive house, or renting some $3000 apartment in the high end part of town- and this voice says, "You are not worthy, you are a little boy trying to play in a game meant for big people. Why are you spending money on these ladies when they are already 10 times richer than you are?"

I don't know if anyone else feel this way, but the fact is, I've never even bought anything more expensive than a good computer in my adult life. I think the most money I've been able to shelled out in my adult life was when I had to purchase a $10,000 piece of technology for work/school purposes, and that almost did me in lol. When I spend $200 a hour to visit a lady, that's the money that could put food on the table for me for 2 weeks- but to her who drove that Mercedes, man, her shoes probably cost more than that...

Maybe I'm just not for this hobby? Maybe people like me should just...spend our money on food and shelter and put our "fate" in our "hands?" I don't know...it's a question I been wrestling with on and off. This, and other issues, had prompted me to retire from the pooning hobby 12 years, and who knows, may do so again soon... Not looking for price reduction, not looking for sympathy, but more curious on if anyone else's wrestled with the same issue before, have decided to step out because of it, or any other "poor man's tales" that run along the same line. We've all seen great high end reviews of high end providers by some, seemingly super rich people who can spend $800+ on a date and don't lose any sleep over it. I enjoy those reviews, I envy their lifestyle and admire their class, but I am also interested to hear/see things from "my side" of the street.

And for the ladies, any encouraging words for the poor church mice crowd? Have you ever felt bad taking a client's money when you realized that you were alot better off than they were?

There are some very very special ladies who make them selves affordable to the lower bracket folk even when they are so well known and provide such good services that they totally didn't have to stay in this bracket where, admittedly, some very lousy specimens of human kind lurk. For that, I salute you all- and a special shout out to Surrey Jewel for she is a great example of that.

Comments? thoughts? Lets hear it... But don't flame me, I spook easily and when I'm spooked, I hit back...hard.
lol
 

tiger69

He who hungers for more.
Sep 5, 2015
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@Sevenofnine: " It is very easy to get lost in this hobby and carried away and wake up one day and realize you spent your life on porn or hookers or whatever, its the same for booze and gambling enjoy it but beware it has a bite."


Lol so true...

@Ms. Phoenix:
Lol yeah I can imagine how much of a pain that was with taxi and skytrain and all.
 

voodooking

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Oct 13, 2015
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You definitely need to learn to have more confidence in yourself,
Most women find insecure men to be a complete turn off.

I have never once felt like I was ever unworthy of any high end SP that I have ever seen.
I don't give one fuck if some dentist , doctor or lawyer can book more time with one of my favorite SP's than I can afford.

Always make the most of your time that you have with an SP and treat them like a queen.
 

hornygandalf

Active member
Im impressed you hold down 3 jobs and you have a girlfrend as well.

honestly there have been olny 2 times that I have personally felt bad with regards to money when seeing an escort and both times It was becase the escort in qestion was trying to take me for as much money as possible. This had nothing to do with how she dressed or what she drove but how she behaved.

I am not by any means a rich person but both those times .

The escort asked me how much i paid for where i lived and both times they seemed to be more interested in my cost of houseing.
They may have come from Hong Kong, where asking the cost of housing is just about a standard 'getting to know you' type question whenever you visit someone's place for the first time. Don't take it as necessarily them trying to suss out how much to squeeze you for.
 

Caramel

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I assume you're only targeting this towards the "high end" women who charge $800+? Because believe me there are plenty of girls who are just as broke as you!
 
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derivative

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Tiger69, interesting thread. I have two questions:

1. You have a girlfriend and do this?
2. Are you an arts major?
 
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That is a fairly accurate portrait of people of East Asian descent (I am, so I hear this question from others many times). However, I am not sure there are many independent SPs who are from HK, or China.
My parents in law are Persians, and a lot of them like to gossip what others do for a living and expect a very high standard as well.

Maybe some escorts were just curious and see if they can squeeze more $$$

They may have come from Hong Kong, where asking the cost of housing is just about a standard 'getting to know you' type question whenever you visit someone's place for the first time. Don't take it as necessarily them trying to suss out how much to squeeze you for.
 

vancity_cowboy

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tiger

i noticed your misuse of a couple of key words. if you change the way you use those words, it might change the way you think about things

the words are: 'game' and 'hobby'

escorting is neither - escorting is a business, pure and simple...
 

Lo-ki

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Check your closet..:)
tiger

i noticed your misuse of a couple of key words. if you change the way you use those words, it might change the way you think about things

the words are: 'game' and 'hobby'

escorting is neither - escorting is a business, pure and simple...
Well said...:)
 

voodooking

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Oct 13, 2015
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I have honestly never understood why anyone would ever call seeing SPs a " Hobby " . :pound:


tiger

i noticed your misuse of a couple of key words. if you change the way you use those words, it might change the way you think about things

the words are: 'game' and 'hobby'

escorting is neither - escorting is a business, pure and simple...
 

westwoody

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It is a leisure activity like going to a movie, skiing, riding a bike, whatever.
I consider it a hobby.
 
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