Huawai.....
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No, I would not buy a Huawei product.
And after how the Chinese government has treated Canadian visitors and Canadian companies, just because Canada followed the rule of law (arrested a Huawei official at the request of the USA), I am trying not to buy any Chinese products.
JD
And after how the Chinese government has treated Canadian visitors and Canadian companies, just because Canada followed the rule of law (arrested a Huawei official at the request of the USA), I am trying not to buy any Chinese products.
JD
I have absolutely no faith in Chinese products. We have things that are over 20 yrs old that are going strong and Chinese things that broke down within months.
Spent thousands dollars on counter tops only to realize that they are not real quartz. just imitation being mass produced in China.
With all due respect to my Chinese Canadians......... I absolutely do not want to buy anything that is China made.
Spent thousands dollars on counter tops only to realize that they are not real quartz. just imitation being mass produced in China.
With all due respect to my Chinese Canadians......... I absolutely do not want to buy anything that is China made.
Then don't by anything "China made". I suspect however; you (like all of us) own many "China made" things without even realizing that they are "China made".
I thought the downfall of Blackberry smartphones were, well, Apple, Samsung, LG, etc. making better smartphones that people actually wanted to buy. Perhaps a bit harsh on Blackberry, but true unfortunately.
Cell phones from established Chinese brands can have quite attractive value for money. Quality is close to South Korean brands, without the same price premium that Koreans charge for their perceived advantage.
I wouldn't buy Huawei specifically, because there should be consequences for getting caught spying and being involved in subsequent actions against Canada.
I don't believe all Chinese electronics in North America could be spying on us undetected, as the channels of information (internet/mobile) are still controlled by locals. There are enough hackers who'd examine Chinese customer devices for any funny activity.
If the perception/wide held belief that Chinese companies steal intellectual property is correct. It's not hard to see where the lower price points in Chinese smartphones comes from. Yes, the likes of Apple and Samsung probably charge more because their brand loyalty can justify a higher price. But if their intellectual property is the ones being stolen by Chinese manufacturers. Then it's basically a situation where Apple and Samsung have to pay for R&D that the Chinese companies simply steal, thus the Chinese manufacturers have one less nut to cover (R&D) and can undercut their competitors (Apple, Samsung, etc.). Having said all that; there was a time when Hyundai's looked remarkably similar to Honda's; and now Hyundai is considered a viable auto maker on it's own merits. Funny how that works. Either "imitation is the greatest form of flattery" or "if you aren't cheating, you aren't trying"; just don't know which one applies when it comes to smartphones, probably a bit of both.
Fair point, another reason to stay off Huawei then. There are a few innovation levels where R&D pays off. On the top level, a whole product idea which came from the original iPhone and didn't change much since. Then software - it's either Apple's iOS or Google's Android - also not making money anymore as Android is essentially free. The design of the case and some smaller components is something companies do by themselves so not much profit from IP theft (ignoring blatant copycat fakes).
Which leaves the intellectual property related to cellphone processor and related electronics (chipset). If those are designed by US companies (Apple or Qualcomm), the most important pieces of intellectual property are paid off whether the phone was made in China or not. Some Chinese companies do use Qualcomm's Snapdragon electronics, but Huawei is based on Chinese-designed electronics and is therefore a likely beneficiary of intellectual property theft.
Indeed. It's assembled in China / Mexico. Still I support Canadian whenever I can.
I've tried very hard not to buy US made goods because of the BS from the Narcissist in Chief.
Now China is on the same list because of how they are treating Canadians who are legitimately on biz in China.
I sure hope my iPhone doesn't die!
Now China is on the same list because of how they are treating Canadians who are legitimately on biz in China.
I sure hope my iPhone doesn't die!
The alternative is to buy outright Chinese.
RIM AKA BB Limited still gets licensing fees - and a lot of it.
I would argue that TCL is an outright Chinese company. Don't get me wrong, they make some good stuff, I have two of their Roku TV's. But TCL is very much a Chinese company. And my Lenovo laptop has some American software called Windows that Lenovo pays fees for - but I still have a Chinese laptop.
Part of my purchase goes to a Canadian company and I'm OK with that.
I don't have any animosity towards Chinese manufacturing whatsoever. It's not like we can avoid it.
I can't imagine a phone or device out there that doesn't contain at least some components from China. I thinks it's always about effective marketing and branding and Huawai definitely has their work cut out for them. My brand is Samsung and I've no doubt they've got a few skeletons in their rather large closet.
"Has their work cut our for them", Huawei's already done work. They're the number 2 smartphone manufacturer in the world - I believe they surpassed Apple last year.
Not because of recognition internationally, but because they serve the largest market in the world predominantly - China.
Huawei gets by by making cheaper phones than Apple, which is an aspirationaly brand. Those who can't afford Apple buy Huawei in China.
Huawei is only 2 - 3% in North America in terms of Market share. In terms of being an international competitor, they have a long ways to go.
Also, Huawei phones have amazing cameras, I'm surprised people here go gaga over the new Google phone. If they hold a Huawei flagship, it beats the Google and iPhone cameras out of the water.
