How can we help perb?

[Dr_X_man]

You might have noticed a slow down in Edmonton section. Without pointing fingers or thinking that for this board to work another has to die. That is not true. All boards can work (and exist) at the same time just fine. I do not wish anything bad to any board.
For hobbyists it takes few seconds to post a review in more than a board.
For provides it takes few seconds to post an ad. in more than a board and it gives more exposure and avenue.
Again without pointing fingers, name calling or drama. What do you think should be done?

 

[mikeret17]

Well, Good Doctor,
I'm sure it's no real secret that many members on this board are also members on other boards. Again, without pointing fingers at anyone, it seems to sound like it's a mortal sin to post a reply on the multiple boards. Is it really THAT terrible? The whole idea is to get the word out to other members of the community, or communities if you will, on intel we have in regards to SPs, MPs, and such.
I think if it just became "more acceptable" to be a member of several boards and realize that all boards can co-exist without causing any irrepairable damage to any such boards, we all prosper
With all of us being adults on these boards, I can only hope we got beyond the whole idea of "COOTIES" before we entered our teens.

C'mon, suck it up, Buttercups. Intel shared with everyone benefits everyone.

 

[ymmvguy]

One way where it is win-win is to tell the beautiful ladies we visit to advertise on PERB. With more advertising, it also becomes a great reference source to find new ladies. Everyone benefits.

 

[B_Nice]

One way where it is win-win is to tell the beautiful ladies we visit to advertise on PERB. With more advertising, it also becomes a great reference source to find new ladies. Everyone benefits.

I do that all the time.

 

[Dr_X_man]

Well, Good Doctor,
I'm sure it's no real secret that many members on this board are also members on other boards. Again, without pointing fingers at anyone, it seems to sound like it's a mortal sin to post a reply on the multiple boards. Is it really THAT terrible? The whole idea is to get the word out to other members of the community, or communities if you will, on intel we have in regards to SPs, MPs, and such.
I think if it just became "more acceptable" to be a member of several boards and realize that all boards can co-exist without causing any irrepairable damage to any such boards, we all prosper
With all of us being adults on these boards, I can only hope we got beyond the whole idea of "COOTIES" before we entered our teens.

C'mon, suck it up, Buttercups. Intel shared with everyone benefits everyone.

Good points, Good Mike without name calling I'll say something I've noticed very recently. Few non active hobbyists are jealous for some reason or the other from good reputable reviewers. They instigate fights. It is unfortunate that those reputable reviewers have to defend themselves. Then drama begins with bans.
It is very easy to spot and know these "jealous" members because they simply provide wrong info. The good thing is non of their non-sense went unnoticed. I am optimistic. Hopefully, things will get better.

One way where it is win-win is to tell the beautiful ladies we visit to advertise on PERB. With more advertising, it also becomes a great reference source to find new ladies. Everyone benefits.

Telling providers not only help them, the forum and the hobby in general.

I do that all the time.

I have some thoughts to share what if we can ask Moderators for categorizing Edmonton into sections for example MP's, independents, a local 411
Just some thoughts

 

[Dr_X_man]

Perhaps you should look at the "we need a Fort Mac sub-forum" thread (https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?57954-Fort-Mac-sub-forum-required) and carefully consider post number 15.

I see your point and have not seen that before (on a second thought the situation is a bit different). However, there is still a lot to discuss.

 

[Bobo The Rabbit]

Post reviews.
Report troll to Mods by collecting all their negative/garbage/flame war starting posts with copy paste and links to the post itself and then forward that to the mods, I have done that in the past with a few trolls but lately I have been to lazy with our current crop.

 

[mikeret17]

I have been thinking, in my kind of self imposed break from active pooning (a choice few know why), I have been still reading alot of the threads in here pretty much daily, and I have noticed a bit of a trend in alot of the threads, no matter what the OP topic deals with.
The trend..... Hijacking.
The basic example:
- Paul D.Pooner goes to see SP Sally. Has a great time. Paul D. posts a review of his adventure.
- Alot of the first members to reply give great praise and some only hope to see Sally.
- 6 replies in, Jobber Jock says he would rather see Dar Ling at the Asian micro.
- For the next 22 posts the topic of the thread has now turned to a back & forth discussion of Asian SPs & MPs.
Wait a minute... what happened to the tale of Paul & Sally? Did Paul overstep any bounds in posting HIS Review? Apparently so, because no one seems interested in him or Sally.
Paul now decides that maybe he just won't post any more reviews.

The More Personal Example.
-A Newbie posts a pretty good review of a Lady he saw at a Local MP.
- Again, a few good replies
- The owner of MP tries to show the review as an example of the type of girls she has working for her.
- Then a mob seems to descend on the thread attacking the owner of said MP, causing her to fire back her defense.
- On & on this goes, with PMs flying around commenting on the Newbie, The MP, The owner, and The lady who originally gave the great service.

I'm sure alot of you can think of your own examples of this type of problem. It seems to be causing alot of friction between alot of members. Alot of times, the Mods just put an end to the madness and close the thread, which seems to cause even more friction. (Round Round We Go)

Dr X, your original post asks what we can do to help PERB. In my mind, trying to do away with the HiJacking going on will be 1 step. Like oil in an engine, it will reduce the friction that seems to be trying to implode this board.

My thoughts. Feel free to disagree. As fellow members of this board, it is your option to have your own opinion.
Sorry if I have stepped on any toes. Next time, wear shoes.

 

[Dr_X_man]

Post reviews.
Report troll to Mods by collecting all their negative/garbage/flame war starting posts with copy paste and links to the post itself and then forward that to the mods, I have done that in the past with a few trolls but lately I have been to lazy with our current crop.

I do that. I get busy as well.

I have been thinking, in my kind of self imposed break from active pooning (a choice few know why), I have been still reading alot of the threads in here pretty much daily, and I have noticed a bit of a trend in alot of the threads, no matter what the OP topic deals with.
The trend..... Hijacking.
The basic example:
- Paul D.Pooner goes to see SP Sally. Has a great time. Paul D. posts a review of his adventure.
- Alot of the first members to reply give great praise and some only hope to see Sally.
- 6 replies in, Jobber Jock says he would rather see Dar Ling at the Asian micro.
- For the next 22 posts the topic of the thread has now turned to a back & forth discussion of Asian SPs & MPs.
Wait a minute... what happened to the tale of Paul & Sally? Did Paul overstep any bounds in posting HIS Review? Apparently so, because no one seems interested in him or Sally.
Paul now decides that maybe he just won't post any more reviews.

The More Personal Example.
-A Newbie posts a pretty good review of a Lady he saw at a Local MP.
- Again, a few good replies
- The owner of MP tries to show the review as an example of the type of girls she has working for her.
- Then a mob seems to descend on the thread attacking the owner of said MP, causing her to fire back her defense.
- On & on this goes, with PMs flying around commenting on the Newbie, The MP, The owner, and The lady who originally gave the great service.

I'm sure alot of you can think of your own examples of this type of problem. It seems to be causing alot of friction between alot of members. Alot of times, the Mods just put an end to the madness and close the thread, which seems to cause even more friction. (Round Round We Go)

Dr X, your original post asks what we can do to help PERB. In my mind, trying to do away with the HiJacking going on will be 1 step. Like oil in an engine, it will reduce the friction that seems to be trying to implode this board.

My thoughts. Feel free to disagree. As fellow members of this board, it is your option to have your own opinion.
Sorry if I have stepped on any toes. Next time, wear shoes.

It is not that I do not agree with you but for me a reply in a thread is better than no replies at all. I know the exact incident you are talking about.

 

[Bad Santa]

Thanks for trying to find the cure for what ails PERB Dr. X.

I'd suggest perhaps a Prairies based Moderator who can pay closer attention to this part of the board. The current PERB Mods are just too overworked moderating the B.C. sections to pay much attention to us. Also, the 411 section here is hardly used at all. Why not turn it into an Indy SP review section for Edmonton and leave the other Edmonton section to specialize in MP reviews only.

I think the Edmonton sections of the baby cowboard are more user friendly with more Edmonton Specific sections and the more hands on moderator approach. In the end, people will post reviews where the atmosphere is more condusive to doing so. The more reviewers you have on a board, the more members you attract and the more SPs will advertise there.

It's pretty simple really, if PERB wants to attract back more Edmonton and Calgary participants, they'll have to set the board up to be more attractive and easier to use for us prairie boys.

I agree with Mikeret17 that both PERB and CAF can have successful Edmonton sections because people do like to have choices and many of us do hop back and forth between the two boards anyway.

 

[Moderator-1]

This is an interesting thread. It's a pity that this or other posters aren't able or willing to take a moment to assist us and report questionable posts or threads.
While we can't always agree or do things that way specific member requests, we do really on members to support for our work here.

Post reviews.
Report troll to Mods by collecting all their negative/garbage/flame war starting posts with copy paste and links to the post itself and then forward that to the mods, I have done that in the past with a few trolls but lately I have been to lazy with our current crop.

 

[mikeret17]

I do that. I get busy as well.


It is not that I do not agree with you but for me a reply in a thread is better than no replies at all. I know the exact incident you are talking about.

Then we will have to agree to disagree, X. Respectfully of course.

I see what you are saying about any reply is a good reply.As commented previously, intel benefits everyone.

It just seems that some of the population in here try to cut a corner and try to instill their off-topic intel wherever they can, and at times in a pushy & rude manner. Perhaps some of the "wise old sages" in here have gotten used to it and ignore it to a degree. But alot of the new breed coming along are trying to use their voice and feel they are a) being ignored or b) their OP was incorrect for 1 reason or another. Soon, guys like you and I may be the wise old sages, and the newbies of today will be "the inmates in charge of the assylum", if this is how we continue to show them the ropes.If we can nip this in the bud and bring the community together on the same page, This and other boards can & will prosper & co-exist.

Is it asking too much to take a few extra seconds to create a new thread to voice this (off topic from OP) intel & comment?

Just 1 man's opinion. Respectfully of course.

 

[Dr_X_man]

Thanks for trying to find the cure for what ails PERB Dr. X.

I'd suggest perhaps a Prairies based Moderator who can pay closer attention to this part of the board. The current PERB Mods are just too overworked moderating the B.C. sections to pay much attention to us. Also, the 411 section here is hardly used at all. Why not turn it into an Indy SP review section for Edmonton and leave the other Edmonton section to specialize in MP reviews only.

I think the Edmonton sections of the baby cowboard are more user friendly with more Edmonton Specific sections and the more hands on moderator approach. In the end, people will post reviews where the atmosphere is more condusive to doing so. The more reviewers you have on a board, the more members you attract and the more SPs will advertise there.

It's pretty simple really, if PERB wants to attract back more Edmonton and Calgary participants, they'll have to set the board up to be more attractive and easier to use for us prairie boys.

I agree with Mikeret17 that both PERB and CAF can have successful Edmonton sections because people do like to have choices and many of us do hop back and forth between the two boards anyway.

Bad Santa is in the house (I mean thread). Since you are here and you are a great reviewer. One of the reason that I stated earilier please ignore those jealous haters. The board can not afford banning great members like yourself. However, a moderator has to be fair in banning therefore banning great members with those idiots. In few words, once things start to get out of hand ignore those posts and immediately report them to the moderator. Please you are valuable to get dragged into a fight or defending yourself.
In regards to number of moderators and work load. You are totally right specially if you compare it to CAF. Plus the subcategories that Edmonton for instance can be divided into. It helps reviewers and it might help Moderators as well.

This is an interesting thread. It's a pity that this or other posters aren't able or willing to take a moment to assist us and report questionable posts or threads.
While we can't always agree or do things that way specific member requests, we do really on members to support for our work here.

Thanks. We try our best Moderator-1. I do not remember ever disagreeing with you or wanted things to be done differently. Personally, I'm just discussing ideas.

Then we will have to agree to disagree, X. Respectfully of course.

I see what you are saying about any reply is a good reply.As commented previously, intel benefits everyone.

It just seems that some of the population in here try to cut a corner and try to instill their off-topic intel wherever they can, and at times in a pushy & rude manner. Perhaps some of the "wise old sages" in here have gotten used to it and ignore it to a degree. But alot of the new breed coming along are trying to use their voice and feel they are a) being ignored or b) their OP was incorrect for 1 reason or another. Soon, guys like you and I may be the wise old sages, and the newbies of today will be "the inmates in charge of the assylum", if this is how we continue to show them the ropes.If we can nip this in the bud and bring the community together on the same page, This and other boards can & will prosper & co-exist.

Is it asking too much to take a few extra seconds to create a new thread to voice this (off topic from OP) intel & comment?

Just 1 man's opinion. Respectfully of course.

It's my signature good Mike . However, I agree with you in general. It's just those little details. In the incident you have mentioned. The hijack was by the owner of the MP. I do not blame her for doing that at all but it opened the door for others attacks. Again she got dragged into the trouble. If it were not for her good personality, her nice attitude and Her fans. Things might have gotten worse.

 

[mikeret17]

I agree. And in PM and a couple person to person discussions, it was all sorted out, the way it should be. I have nothing but respect for her and her operations. A definite class act all around. I think if there were more people like her in the mix, alot of the problems would fade into obscurity.

 

[dieselman]

Then we will have to agree to disagree, X. Respectfully of course.

I see what you are saying about any reply is a good reply.As commented previously, intel benefits everyone.

It just seems that some of the population in here try to cut a corner and try to instill their off-topic intel wherever they can, and at times in a pushy & rude manner. Perhaps some of the "wise old sages" in here have gotten used to it and ignore it to a degree. But alot of the new breed coming along are trying to use their voice and feel they are a) being ignored or b) their OP was incorrect for 1 reason or another. Soon, guys like you and I may be the wise old sages, and the newbies of today will be "the inmates in
charge of the assylum", if this is how we continue to show them the ropes.If we can nip this in the bud and bring the community together on the same page, This and other boards can & will prosper & co-exist.

Is it asking too much to take a few extra seconds to create a new thread to voice this (off topic from OP) intel & comment?

Just 1 man's opinion. Respectfully of course.

Well said!


DM

 

[Bad Santa]

Bad Santa is in the house (I mean thread). Since you are here and you are a great reviewer. One of the reason that I stated earilier please ignore those jealous haters. The board can not afford banning great members like yourself. However, a moderator has to be fair in banning therefore banning great members with those idiots. In few words, once things start to get out of hand ignore those posts and immediately report them to the moderator. Please you are valuable to get dragged into a fight or defending yourself.
In regards to number of moderators and work load. You are totally right specially if you compare it to CAF. Plus the subcategories that Edmonton for instance can be divided into. It helps reviewers and it might help Moderators as well.

Thanks Dr. X but it's great members like yourself that are going to make PERB successful in the future. I'm an old fucker who's probably on the downhill slide of his pooning career so it's more of you younger boys who are going to have to carry the torch in the future. PERB has to attract reviewers like yourself and guys like Rockivy and Dahamma back to this board.

 

[Dr_X_man]

Well said!


DM

Bad boy, you just like to disagree with me (kiddin') I do not see a problem in disagreeing but I still think we agree. As Mike said if thread topic is different then a new thread should be created.

Thanks Dr. X but it's great members like yourself that are going to make PERB successful in the future. I'm an old fucker who's probably on the downhill slide of his pooning career so it's more of you younger boys who are going to have to carry the torch in the future. PERB has to attract reviewers like yourself and guys like Rockivy and Dahamma back to this board.

Thanks Bad Santa but we still need you and all the great reviewers (I won't say names 'cause I might forget and the list is long).
However, it is unfortunate that the other names you have mentioned hardly (lately) post here.

 

[wolverine]

The follwing folks would make great fair minded Mods based on their drama free posting history.

Wolverine, Dr X., emilna, 69guy, Trawler, Jim, ymmvguy, Peace Guy.

I've been offered the job at least a couple of times in the past, but turned it down. I'm prone to power abuse!

 

[ThisEndUp]

perhaps we can re-recruit those sp and posters that were recruited to the other board?

and those that continue to post false/incorrect information and backpedal and change stories should be shown the door?

known bait & swichers, spammers and those that continue to post in wrong areas should be booted too

and fake reviewers that cant be proven should be referred to Penthouse

 

[Snoopy99]

my 2 cents' worth:
i find the biggest difference between here and the baby cow is the abundance of rules;
1. You can't post links to non-paying providers, so readers have to guess, and impede the flow of intel
2. You can't post reviews on providers who don't want to be reviewed (antiquated - but nonetheless it's a rule)

I understand the advertising revenue model - but it's not helping the fundamental reason why pooners visit these boards.
We want good intel, and hopefully all of us share it without posting fake reviews.
If it takes 2 hands to clap, why don't we also invite the provider to offer their side of the story, when we post a review?