What a tough way to end the season. They kept it interesting, but if only they had that effort for at least half the game.
How about them Canucks?
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Not a fan of hockey but I could tell that the Canucks lost as the streets were really quiet.
Abysmal performance, just like Game 6.
Can't expect to advance to the conference finals only showing up in the last 10 minutes.
Putting Lafferty and Mik in was a bonehead move by Tocc. We'd have been better off with a couple kids from Abbotsford than those two mouth breathers.
Miller was nowhere to be seen.
Petey had some hustle, but way too late into the series.
Hughes is clearly hurt. Bruised something, he got beat up badly in the Nashville series (what game was it that he went to the bench and was wincing for like 5-10mins???).
Hronek doesn't deserve anything over 5M, prove me wrong.
Couple of bad defensive games from our other D, and we hung Arty out to fucking dry.
Arty deserves the backup spot, unbelievable effort from the Latvian kid 🤴! Thrown into the fire and showed he could handle it. Too bad there was no offense in front of him.
Only two people I saw with some actual hustle tonight were Garland and Lindholm. Clearly the only ones on the bench without a morning tee time tomorrow.
I know we weren't even supposed to be here, but I'm fucking pissed at how this series ended. Had it been a close game the last two I'd of been fine. But the blow out on Saturday, and this disaster has me wanting to punch a hole in the wall.
We brought Demko back too early. Had they let him rest further into Nashville(probs would have went to 7), I think this would have been a different series.
/endrant
Can't expect to advance to the conference finals only showing up in the last 10 minutes.
Putting Lafferty and Mik in was a bonehead move by Tocc. We'd have been better off with a couple kids from Abbotsford than those two mouth breathers.
Miller was nowhere to be seen.
Petey had some hustle, but way too late into the series.
Hughes is clearly hurt. Bruised something, he got beat up badly in the Nashville series (what game was it that he went to the bench and was wincing for like 5-10mins???).
Hronek doesn't deserve anything over 5M, prove me wrong.
Couple of bad defensive games from our other D, and we hung Arty out to fucking dry.
Arty deserves the backup spot, unbelievable effort from the Latvian kid 🤴! Thrown into the fire and showed he could handle it. Too bad there was no offense in front of him.
Only two people I saw with some actual hustle tonight were Garland and Lindholm. Clearly the only ones on the bench without a morning tee time tomorrow.
I know we weren't even supposed to be here, but I'm fucking pissed at how this series ended. Had it been a close game the last two I'd of been fine. But the blow out on Saturday, and this disaster has me wanting to punch a hole in the wall.
We brought Demko back too early. Had they let him rest further into Nashville(probs would have went to 7), I think this would have been a different series.
/endrant
They didn't deserve to win. Oilers outplayed and outworked the Canucks the whole game. Impressed by their defence, since they're known for their scoring.
NO SHOTS on a 4 minute power play? None? Two shots in the first period? At home? In game 7? When you're supposed to come out roaring? Game over right there. Edmonton let them have a hope with that terrible give-away for the C's first goal, but you don't win playing 10 minutes of a 60 minute game. Silov kept them in a game that should have been 5-0 going into the third.
Not sure I even noticed Miller. Pettersson is useless. He spends more time on all fours than two skates. Why is Mikhaev on the ice at all? At least the Oilers had the sense to bench Perry. Hughes is over-played.
NO SHOTS on a 4 minute power play? None? Two shots in the first period? At home? In game 7? When you're supposed to come out roaring? Game over right there. Edmonton let them have a hope with that terrible give-away for the C's first goal, but you don't win playing 10 minutes of a 60 minute game. Silov kept them in a game that should have been 5-0 going into the third.
Not sure I even noticed Miller. Pettersson is useless. He spends more time on all fours than two skates. Why is Mikhaev on the ice at all? At least the Oilers had the sense to bench Perry. Hughes is over-played.
I totally agree. How does a team with a huge noisy crowd going crazy come out in the first period and get 2 shots on goal? They could have been behind 3 or 4 nothing after the first period if not for the goalie. They were lucky. Then came out in the second and did nothing again. Give Edmonton credit, their D played really good for most of the last t
I totally agree.They came out to start the game with no energy and a step behind the Oilers with the exception of the first shift. How does that happen on home ice with the energy of the crowd behind you? No excuses, and lucky to be tied after the first period. Bottom line, not enough offence and they let their shaky goalie off the hook until the last half of the third period. Too late, and didn't deserve to win. Give the Oilers credit for their defensive play the last two games. Draisaitl was the difference in the series, consistently scored big goals and assists when they needed them.
No knock on Drai whatsoever, but I'd say Evan Bouchard was the difference maker this series. Contributed offensively when it mattered; 2 of their wins were due to his goals.
Wonder what Silov's next contract will be worth and with whom. That kid earned himself one hell of a boost.
We couldn't even make it through the neutral zone the first 40 mins. Dump and change, or dump and chase for the 1st two periods.
They kept playing 1-2-2 which killed their momentum, and I think if they just trusted Silovs more to run 2-1-2 like we do with Demko in net it could have been a different game. We switched to being more aggressive(2-1-2) in the last 10 minutes and if it wasn't for a brilliant timeout by Knob with 4 minutes left I think we'd have tied it.
Losing Brock left them shook 😳
Love watching Connor Garland, reminds me of Cliff Ronning one of my all time favorite Canucks.
If everyone brought it like he did it game 7 , Dallas would be next.
If everyone brought it like he did it game 7 , Dallas would be next.
He's an rfa,so he'll probably get a bridge deal. Unless another team tries an offer sheet, then the nuck would receive a butt load of 1st round picks. Same with Hronek.
They really are Canada‘s team, the Canucks sure could use a bit of that
I know we were chasing a conference title, but fuck me why didn't they rest his ass.
Perfect storm of stupidity?
Player believes he has to go out there and prove something (maybe includes some pressure from teammates?)
Medical staff and trainers know its only tendonitis and leave it up to the player to decide (see above)
Coach relies on player veracity and medical/trainers diagnosis and prognosis.
But yeah, they could have sat him for a while to prepare for the playoffs.
The dimwitted narrative that 'its up to the player blah-blah-blah' loses sight of the fact that in this instance, he is your top player and should be managed to ensure he can play at his best, not some half-assed level where he's as much a drag on the team as the driver of production he is supposed to be.
Should have sat him at the ASG for about 4-6 weeks.
People like to point this shit out, but understand that professional sports teams are PAID MERCENARIES.
If you want to watch people playing for their country instead of $$$, you watch the Olympics (which Bettman hates, not surprisingly).
I decided I was not going to comment on the Canucks / Oilers series on PERB until it was done. (This was not out of any respect for Albertans, LOL.)
The Canucks did well, but at times not well enough.
They did well considering they were barely expected to be in the playoffs, not division leaders, and considering they were playing against an Oilers team that has 2 of the league's top 5 offensive players in McDavid and Draisaitl. (Some say 2 of the top 3). #1 penalty kill and #1 power play in the league.
But honestly, Game 6 the Canucks team let that 1% of complacency about "having one more game to finish it" get into their heads, and being less than 100% focused in this series meant losing. If they had played either game 6 or 7 like they did in game 5, the Oilers would be dead. It just seemed like the Canucks were determined to always do things the hard way. Comeback games instead of dominating from the puck drop to the final whistle. Comebacks are great to show you have determination and can be dangerous at any time, but there's only so many times you can do that before your luck runs out, and it finally did. That last game, they still could have won, if they had played the whole game like those last 10 minutes, instead of falling behind by three goals first.
With respect to players, going in I had made my thoughts clear on that: We needed better play from the top guys: Boeser, Miller, Petterson, Quinn Hughes.
Specifically about Petterson, I had one thought which was basically: "Don't make us regret the Bo Horvat trade". And that's exactly what happened.
Well, Boeser and Miller lived it to it pretty well, they stepped up and played hard as they could. The problem with Boeser going down was that the Oilers only had to neutralize Miller to eliminate the Canucks as an offensive threat. (And it greatly reduced the team's shot accuracy too.) Miller had to be the #1 threat AND neutralize McDavid, and that's asking for a lot from one guy. Gee if only there was another top scoring threat on another line ... but there wasn't.
I think the Oilers figured out early on that Petterson was no real threat to them, a secondary or tertiary priority. Knowing this freed them up to just smother Miller's line, and wait for it to get tired so their own top guys would have an opening. Maybe Petterson's linemates bear the responsibility for that line's failings as well, but whatever it was, it was not working. Lindholm, Dakota Joshua and Conor Garland (secondary threats not primary) all seemed to outperform. I know people want to say "well, he did a lot of good back-checking and so on", but he's an 11m dollar 1st line center, not some 3rd or 4th line shut down guy.
As for the Canucks defensemen, that's another issue: Quinn Hughes. Where was the guy who was a supposed Norris trophy contender? 10 points in 13 games is not nothing, but none of those points were goals. Every time the Canucks had a power play, I kept gritting my teeth at all the lost opportunities to generate a point shot. Meanwhile Zadorov was out there hitting, shooting, scoring, blocking and shutting down the enemy forwards.
Sometimes I forget that it was a long time since this team was even in the playoffs, so maybe for some of these guys, they never knew what was really required of them as players until this series.
Okay, overall, the best Canucks forwards were Boeser and Lindholm (not the same level of threat as Miller, but scored quite a bit and great on faceoffs). Best Canucks defenseman was Zadorov, or at least he sure stood out like one.
Best Edmonton forward, McDavid or Draisaitl? Debatable. (Points off McDavid for being a whiner to the refs, which was an unpleasant surprise). More clear is my opinion that Bouchard was the Oilers' best defenseman, clearly the kind of point-shooting artillery piece which the Oilers had and the Canucks did not have.
Well anyways, it is done. The Oilers are the last Canadian team in contention so if the Canucks cannot bring the Cup back to this side of the border, they should.
No matter how testy this series got at time
Exactly. It sounds like management-written bullshit. Not that I doubt he had a nagging injury, but as you said, if it was impacting him on ice, they should have rested him, certainly after clinching the playoff spot.
1) Players play with small injuries all the time, especially in the playoffs. They do heroic shit like block 90mph shots and hobble to the bench, then come back for more. And if they can't, they set aside their pride and let someone else take them spot rather than be a liability.
2) You know who did get injured right around that time ? Thatching fucking Demko, our #1 goalie. The team went through all this playoff battle mostly with an untested 3rd string goalie. (And he was great, thank fuck!)
Signing & non-signings for next season will be interesting, maybe frustrating.
Lindholm, Zadorov, Dakota Joshua, they need to keep. Silovs too, he definitely earned it.
I have no opinion on keeping Cole or Hronek. Was not impressed with them in the playoffs.
In general, I do not want them to be keeping the guys who underperformed while trading away the guys who performed well.
The Canucks did well, but at times not well enough.
They did well considering they were barely expected to be in the playoffs, not division leaders, and considering they were playing against an Oilers team that has 2 of the league's top 5 offensive players in McDavid and Draisaitl. (Some say 2 of the top 3). #1 penalty kill and #1 power play in the league.
But honestly, Game 6 the Canucks team let that 1% of complacency about "having one more game to finish it" get into their heads, and being less than 100% focused in this series meant losing. If they had played either game 6 or 7 like they did in game 5, the Oilers would be dead. It just seemed like the Canucks were determined to always do things the hard way. Comeback games instead of dominating from the puck drop to the final whistle. Comebacks are great to show you have determination and can be dangerous at any time, but there's only so many times you can do that before your luck runs out, and it finally did. That last game, they still could have won, if they had played the whole game like those last 10 minutes, instead of falling behind by three goals first.
With respect to players, going in I had made my thoughts clear on that: We needed better play from the top guys: Boeser, Miller, Petterson, Quinn Hughes.
Specifically about Petterson, I had one thought which was basically: "Don't make us regret the Bo Horvat trade". And that's exactly what happened.
Well, Boeser and Miller lived it to it pretty well, they stepped up and played hard as they could. The problem with Boeser going down was that the Oilers only had to neutralize Miller to eliminate the Canucks as an offensive threat. (And it greatly reduced the team's shot accuracy too.) Miller had to be the #1 threat AND neutralize McDavid, and that's asking for a lot from one guy. Gee if only there was another top scoring threat on another line ... but there wasn't.
I think the Oilers figured out early on that Petterson was no real threat to them, a secondary or tertiary priority. Knowing this freed them up to just smother Miller's line, and wait for it to get tired so their own top guys would have an opening. Maybe Petterson's linemates bear the responsibility for that line's failings as well, but whatever it was, it was not working. Lindholm, Dakota Joshua and Conor Garland (secondary threats not primary) all seemed to outperform. I know people want to say "well, he did a lot of good back-checking and so on", but he's an 11m dollar 1st line center, not some 3rd or 4th line shut down guy.
As for the Canucks defensemen, that's another issue: Quinn Hughes. Where was the guy who was a supposed Norris trophy contender? 10 points in 13 games is not nothing, but none of those points were goals. Every time the Canucks had a power play, I kept gritting my teeth at all the lost opportunities to generate a point shot. Meanwhile Zadorov was out there hitting, shooting, scoring, blocking and shutting down the enemy forwards.
Sometimes I forget that it was a long time since this team was even in the playoffs, so maybe for some of these guys, they never knew what was really required of them as players until this series.
Okay, overall, the best Canucks forwards were Boeser and Lindholm (not the same level of threat as Miller, but scored quite a bit and great on faceoffs). Best Canucks defenseman was Zadorov, or at least he sure stood out like one.
Best Edmonton forward, McDavid or Draisaitl? Debatable. (Points off McDavid for being a whiner to the refs, which was an unpleasant surprise). More clear is my opinion that Bouchard was the Oilers' best defenseman, clearly the kind of point-shooting artillery piece which the Oilers had and the Canucks did not have.
Well anyways, it is done. The Oilers are the last Canadian team in contention so if the Canucks cannot bring the Cup back to this side of the border, they should.
No matter how testy this series got at time
Exactly. It sounds like management-written bullshit. Not that I doubt he had a nagging injury, but as you said, if it was impacting him on ice, they should have rested him, certainly after clinching the playoff spot.
1) Players play with small injuries all the time, especially in the playoffs. They do heroic shit like block 90mph shots and hobble to the bench, then come back for more. And if they can't, they set aside their pride and let someone else take them spot rather than be a liability.
2) You know who did get injured right around that time ? Thatching fucking Demko, our #1 goalie. The team went through all this playoff battle mostly with an untested 3rd string goalie. (And he was great, thank fuck!)
Signing & non-signings for next season will be interesting, maybe frustrating.
Lindholm, Zadorov, Dakota Joshua, they need to keep. Silovs too, he definitely earned it.
I have no opinion on keeping Cole or Hronek. Was not impressed with them in the playoffs.
In general, I do not want them to be keeping the guys who underperformed while trading away the guys who performed well.
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