so we're going to pretend you didn't bring this to perb yourself a few days ago then deleting said thread.
GST On Sex - Buyer Beware
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Wouldn’t say completely anonymous… you mentioned take8easy from perb and I don’t think he cancelled last minute and it’s okay for someone to change there minds.
I'm pretty sure posting DMs is an infarction, at least for regular members. The mods have also said more than once, that paid advertisers need to obey the rules too. Not sure why you are an exception.
Hissy Fit : (A new definition ) Cancelling an appointment 17 hours ahead,( because of disagreement on rates and deceptive advertising) apologizing to the provider, not criticizing her on socials, be ripped by the provider, being called named, ridiculed and then tell your side of story (only after being told that by others about posts on X) without even mentioning the name or even the rates of the lady.
I guess from now on hissy fits would not include the following:
1. false advertising
2. not taking rejection very well
3. calling names and mocking clients simply for cancelling appointments
4. total disregard of other people’s privacy (I bet pooners are going to feel safer booking with this lady now)
5. everything else that this lady deems fit as per her opinion.
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Are you going to reschedule now that you know exact change is available?
Cant wait for the review.
Why so much drama, Take8 never paid the deposit or filled out the booking form so never had a confirmed date, his reasoning for not going through with the booking shouldn’t matter…
Sounds like u saved your money, .....enjoy it somehwere else
End of day, no actual appt was set and enough time was given to not proceed .... Her running to social media to out the conversation is very 'Karen' like
End of day, no actual appt was set and enough time was given to not proceed .... Her running to social media to out the conversation is very 'Karen' like
You definitely could have said this was me, no worries. I’m proud to advocate to be treated like other businesses.
1. FALSE ADVERTISING is hilarious. What did I falsely advertise?
2. You think this is about rejection? It’s not. It’s about respect. And no, I don’t take disrespect well and I don’t think that’s a bad thing.
3. This is not about you cancelling your appointment. You never had an appointment because you didn’t make a deposit. This is about you deciding not to book with me because you don’t see me as a legitimate business. You’d NEVER do this to any other business. I don’t want to see someone who decides that this industry is the only industry that has to beat you over the head with the information that we pay tax like any other business. I don’t care about your $450; I care that so many people don’t see sex work as legitimate. This isn’t just about you; it’s about the way we are viewed by many as less than. You’re just an example.
4. Again; nowhere did I violate your privacy. No one knows your name, where you live, what you look like; any of that. You sent me a name and I have not and will not ever share that.
5. I just want sex work to be decriminalized and destigmatised. I want to be respected. I want to be treated like any other business since I have to pay taxes and follow rules any other business does. I can’t even use payment processors because Visa and Mastercard won’t support our industry. You refusing to pay $22.50 in GST when you were going to tip $50 anyways is a symptom of the same problem.
You’re discriminatory. And I’m not sorry I called you out (anonymously, again, unless your legal name is “take8easy”).
Pretty sure he’s the Karen. Karens are typically nitpicky, discriminatory, demanding customers. The types to ask to speak to the manager. Refusing to patronise a business because they charge tax like any other business is peak Karen 😂
Always try to follow industry standard. The standard is cash at a flat rate, with taxes included if applicable. If you break that convention and charge more, MAKE IT OBVIOUS. I hate it when SPs advertise very obscure rates.... like where am I supposed to get $235+ tax from? Most ATMs only do 20s and 50s and I haven't held actual change in years.
I totally get needing to charge GST as they are registered and have a GST # but I'd want an invoice and receipt with a description of services as I would receive from any other business. There are a couple SPs who will invoice their services to your business as "cleaning services " or other services for a write off which if you choose to do that, up to you, but usually you would have to have a very good relationship with that SP and trust how she runs her show.
Paying with anything other than cash when she is reporting her income to the CRA is silly and potentially can identify you as a client. Remember, buying is illegal, and the government is always looking for a way to use you for the bare anal experience so we are taking on that risk, minimize it...
I totally get needing to charge GST as they are registered and have a GST # but I'd want an invoice and receipt with a description of services as I would receive from any other business. There are a couple SPs who will invoice their services to your business as "cleaning services " or other services for a write off which if you choose to do that, up to you, but usually you would have to have a very good relationship with that SP and trust how she runs her show.
Paying with anything other than cash when she is reporting her income to the CRA is silly and potentially can identify you as a client. Remember, buying is illegal, and the government is always looking for a way to use you for the bare anal experience so we are taking on that risk, minimize it...
She's still a misandrist though.
Her advocacy would be much more impactful if she refrained from attacking others, aligned her actions with her beliefs, and avoided being hypocritical.
Additionally, many other providers prefer to distance themselves from her, which raises questions about her reputation.
We all also should recognize that there are many providers who would choose to operate as they currently do, even if this were legal, primarily for the benefits of tax advantages and discretion.
Abrasiveness to the max. Sounds like take8easy dodged a bullet
I'm pretty sure he said it's not the fact you charge tax but that your ad in tyst didn't advertise it
Dunno why it's so hard to just incorporate the tax in to the advertised RATE ( nice of u to update ur ad after all this started)
There was no discrimination and no nitpicking shown in the the texts u posted to Twitter...... But sure he's a 'Karen' for declining to carry forward with the date with more than enough time given to cancel a NON BOOKED APPT 😂
If buying sex is illegal in Canada, why would I pay GST on it?
I am all for decriminalizing this trade. I am fully against not treating s*x workers with respect and dignity. I never short pay or haggle over prices. Read my reviews from last five or six years, you wont find a single sentence bad mouthing an so. Do you think that’s because all the sessions are fulfilling? No. Only time I would post something negative is if the SP was a scammer or was misleading etc. But I know that these women do need business and I chalk up even my somewhat bad experiences as “ymmv”. Things would be different when I had just getting my feet (and fingers) wet in this hobby.
If this lady in discussion wants to do all the good things for this trade as she says she does (I am sure her intents are good), take us, the users with you. Although i wont join the movement openly (being married etc), I would gladly show my support. Heck thousand of dollars I have spent on this hobby were not aimed at mistreatment of women in this trade.
A very dear female friend of mine told me how sick it was of me to go to escorts and I had to explain to her that many of these lovely women are pursuing other careers and most of the ones I see work in clean, safe environment. If we the hobbyists didn’t see them, they could be in financial hardship.
If this happened when I was a newbie many years ago, I would have been much more vocal and less inclined to mince my words. But now that I have met some awesome ladies, my perspective has changed. After posting this thread, I have considered and reconsidered the idea of shutting down this thread but as soon as I open PERB, she is at it again.
Kudos for her concerns about this industry but I just hope she understands that she is doing more damage to her ideology, her cause and a few other things simply because she is failing to see where ‘it’ went wrong. I intentionally used the word ‘it’ instead of ‘she’.
Oh well, that’s her choice.
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That’s a valid point but the point I am making is that I am willing to pay any additional surcharges be it GST, PST, or In call fee, room preparation fee, towels fee, or whatever other fee but the provider should be very clear about it. She just should not use what seem like sneaky ways of making more money.
Instead of $450, just advertise and charge me $500 and say it includes GST, that works for me! Absolutely it does!
These women are special, they are beautiful, both inside and outside. I don’t even partake in FS anymore because of my age, I just want to get away from work, daily stress, my family and spend time being with them and enjoy sensual moments. I have been doing that with honesty and respect for over 190 times, please reciprocate it respectfully or at least don’t go about shredding me just because I very respectfully made a point AND politely apologize for not interested in going with the session.
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It’s not sneaky. I pay GST. I want to buy a condo, and I can’t do that if I don’t claim my income. No other kind of business includes GST in their pricing.
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