In Buddhist Thailand it's called karma.
Then there's the philosophy described as follows:
"The leech has two daughters: Give and Give."
Generic List of providers who accept the donation after the session
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Then there's the philosophy described as follows:
"The leech has two daughters: Give and Give."
Pointing out that posting a list of providers that do not collect their fees up front is a bad idea? That is highjacking a thread? Such a list would obviously attract those intent on ripping off the provider. Let's post a list of variety stores with no security cameras, or of businesses that keep a lot of money in their tills. Equally good ideas.
Oh god, HB. With 3700 posts in two years that's gotta beg the question... do you spend your entire life on this board sucking up to these people? Or do you actually get out of your mom's basement and get around to meeting real human beings every now and then?
Get a life buddy.
Resaurants let you pay after you eat.
From that custom we get another custom "dine and dash"
what do you think
From that custom we get another custom "dine and dash"
what do you think
It's only been two years, hardly a lifetime.
I have a pretty fantastic life actually, you can read all about it in my 3,700 posts.
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The payment of the donation after a session is one positive reason for going there.
And that is accomplished, unlike in Canada, without any need to ask for it, since
it is an industry standard with the SWs of Siam.
Because of the many ripoffs that occur with DTES SW's i wouldn't be surprised if a
lot of guys request postpayment and get it at the same very high rate that i do. It
is no harder, if anything easier, to obtain in these economicly turbid times than it
was 3-6 years ago.
Who is going to ask them to do that? God in a dream appearing to each of them simultaneously?
A large number of DTES SW's can be described as survival sex workers. Asking them to adopt post payment as an 'industry standard'
Like the Borg collective?
If a guy is dumb enough to hand over cash to an addict prior to recieving services, then he will
get what's coming to him. An exception might be if he knows her well and is a regular.
Even if she appears normal DT, by the time she gets to your place or a hotel room or wherever
and does her drugs inbetween, she could have a total change of personality and, for example,
go on a serious paranoid trip where she does crazy stuff and is rather useless as a date.
Since i have a rep down there as being a straight shooter & standup guy, like i'm sure some
other guys do, it is easier to recieve trust with funds. For example the other day there
were two SWs, one whom i knew & the other i didn't, but they knew each other. The newbie i
was interested in wanted half up front, but i suggested she speak to her friend who would
vouch for me. And everything ended up happily ever after for all at the end of the night.
OTOH, if she hadn't trusted me, who knows who or what she might have ended up with.
Maybe just nothing but a bunch of bruises or broken bones.
Thank you for proving my point, Lenny.
I am really wondering... (In Canada) What is the point or the purpose in insisting to pay only after the session?
Is it so you can use the payment as some kind of leverage over the sp, control over the session and pressure as a reminder for the sp?
Do you always plan to pay at the end of the session, and pay the amount agreed upon?.... or do you decide on a different amount depending on how satisfied you are with the service?
What exactly is your intention when you insist on paying only after the session? (In Canada)
What you don't seem to grasp, Bijou, is that the clients get ripped off in this industry all the time by bad service providers. All the time.
Why do you believe that the SP should be gifted this "leverage", as you've put it, by default? Why should the client have to pay a lady and then, if the client isn't provided a level of service that wasn't promised, force him to have to make a decision on what kind action to take to rectify the problem?
I'd guess that clients get ripped off by SP's with the practice you subscribe to far more than SP's do who accept payment afterwards.
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Isn't that why you should go to well reviewed ladies? This isn't a typical business transaction, you're smarter than that. Yes there are girls who will rip guys off and vice versa................it's the reality of the world we live in.
Again, what purpose do reviews and websites like perb serve, if you aren't using the info here. I think the rip offs are exposed in the neighborhood watch section.. Are there really that many sp's that haven't been reviewed at all? Isn't that what the 411 section is for? I would assume that the number of sp's for whom there is no review and no response to a 411 - would be rather small. So if you want to make sure you avoid any risk of being ripped off, staying clear of sp's who fall in that category should solve it. Just wait until those with higher tolerance to risk and who don't mind taking chances have toftt.
Guess what? None of you have reviews I can find anywhere. I can't even post 411 to see if anyone may have had some issues with in the past. If I get ripped off or worse.. Guess what? I have no idea who you are...no name..no real contact info; a disposable phone and email account.. But you on the other hand, know my location, whether I'm alone there or not, where I advertise, what I look like (ie. face), etc...
Where are all the sp's willing to accept the payment afterwards no-questions-asked? I don't see anyone rushing over to announce they'll accept donations at the end of the session from now on. Afterall, if it truly wasn't a big deal for us and there were no risks but only benefits for accommodating your need for control, then wouldn't there be a long line of ladies volunteering to be added to this list? Well, where are they?
I grasp it just fine, Hugzy. I think it's you who doesn't grasp that it's not all about you and the women are also at risk of being ripped off or worse.
I thought this was the WWW. Anyway, the subject is a generic listing of providers who offer postpayment, not just limited to those in Vancouver, or the West Coast, or BC, or Canada. So it is open to discussion of the subject in any area of the world. This should have been even more obvious by the original post in the thread which spoke of SWs in Thailand.Indeed. I agree. This is Canada.
What would be of interest is to hear what the payment practices are in other countries of the globe. And on a somewhat related subject, the history of them, how they evolved or came to be the way they are, and what we can expect in the future. A book on this subject might make almost as good a read as Hatrick's adventures with SWs.
Is there anything stopping the guy from getting dressed and leaving without payment?
If these MP's wanted payment upfront, couldn't they get it after it is known what kind
of a session it is going to be?
SWs, BTW, usually find out what services are wanted beforehand, and then request
the payment before they are performed. Any reason MP's couldn't do that too, if they
wanted to? Annies MP of Bangkok, for example, requires prepayment.
To avoid getting ripped off it isn`t necessary to limit oneself to well reviewed SP`s.
The same goal is achieved by patronizing those who offer postpayment, which may also
render unnecessary the substantial time investment required to research reviews. Time
is money. Furthermore, IME, BTW, as limited as it has been with those well reviewed,
they have been no better in service than others. If anything, those offering after
session donations have the advantage. Why should i expect this to change?
Moreover, many guys, for a variety of reasons, may not be interested in limiting
themselves exclusively to the well reviewed. For example, SWs are seldom reviewed
at all, yet almost 30% {20 of 68} of PERB voters have said they do/would do them.
A list of at least 7 reasons why SWs are prefered over internet advertisers are
given in the same thread with the poll, titled "Streetwalkers: Who uses them":
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?134984-Sweetwalkers-Who-uses-them/page2
Okay, already! Here's your "generic" list:
- Provider A - the blonde one.
- Provider B - the one with with big knockers
- Provider C ......
What the hell do you mean by "SWs" in Thailand anyway? Most services are from girls connected to a bar, or within massage parlours. The reason that you do not have to pay in advance in Thailand is because you will get the shit beat out of you by her protector/manager/pimp if you rip her off. You normally take bar girls back to your place -- so they know where to find you. Massage parlours and the like have security staff, with the same result. Do you not see the difference between that and independent providers here?
Give it a friggin' break.
- Provider A - the blonde one.
- Provider B - the one with with big knockers
- Provider C ......
What the hell do you mean by "SWs" in Thailand anyway? Most services are from girls connected to a bar, or within massage parlours. The reason that you do not have to pay in advance in Thailand is because you will get the shit beat out of you by her protector/manager/pimp if you rip her off. You normally take bar girls back to your place -- so they know where to find you. Massage parlours and the like have security staff, with the same result. Do you not see the difference between that and independent providers here?
Give it a friggin' break.
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