Interesting..... this hits very close to home right now..... I have been going through a very similar situation withat an SP that is well reviewed.
At first always got the royal treatment from her as a customer .... she soon became the only one I would see.. this past summer we grew closer.... got to meet some of her family. ... was offered to meet some of her friends but politely declined..
We spent allot of time together ....picked her up after work.. had dinner with her on a regular base... when and visited apartments she was looking to rent and so on...
When we drove around she would hold on to my arm and lean her head on my shoulder.....
Needless to say it's fairly easy to get attached to such a sweet heart..
But what I could see was ....she has a struggle between who she is..which is very sweet...generous...kind heart ....and very loveable ..... and the other part of the struggle is dealing with what she is...... a service provider .... possibly jaded from all men... and will use any possible tactic to get what she wants.....
My first fall out with her was .. me refusing to cancel my trip to Thailand and stay here.... while in Thailand she asked me to borrow a large sum of money.... not that I was afraid she wouldn't make enough to pay me back.. but afraid she may not have the intention to pay it back .... and I am talking thousands of dollars....
Having gone down this path several years ago... and having paid through the nose ... I was very cautious.... so... I set up a little test and see her reaction ...... and as expected she didn't pass ..... so.. decided to not lend her any money..... no talking for a month or so.... then went to.see her as a customer..... and we were back on track again.... I went to her place and she would come to my place..... but the one thing I did... was everytime we had sex... I always paid.... many time she refused but told her ....if I pay... I do not feel obligated ....
And if I feel like seeing her ... I don't have to hesitate ....
She would then message me at night...... saying she was sad... and missed me and wanted me....
But soon realize that was more of her SP side then private side....
She suddenly was sick.... so .. took time of work......brought her medicine..... and took the time to take care of her....
But.... as soon she was feeling better texted her... called her ... for almost 3 days and no replies..... all of a sudden I get a message from her which says....." Can you drive me to the ferry".... no Hi.... no sorry I couldn't get back to you over the past 3 days... nothing..... so told her to take a hike.... but in allot more.words then this. ...
So last straw.... later month was her birthday.... bought her a little gift ....took her to Gotham for a nice dinner... and all seem to be back in place again.... except this time.... she didn't reply to any message for the next 4 or 5 days... so I decided to end it completely ..... no more as a friend.... no more as a customer.....
I'm sure she has many other men running at her beck.and call.....
So my suggestion to you OP...... break the tie.... you will end up being takin advantage of..... treated like second class...she will certainly have you waiting to see her even if you book her early... because she will know you won't mind... and you will.sit in your car for hours....
Because who they are and what they are is 2 different person wrapped up in 1 package....
As I said before ....been there done that..... and in the end ...really... if you know your woman has slept with half of perb members and reading about it all the time..... I'm not sure this leads to a healthy relationship.....
I'm sure the "in love gentlemen" is a young inexperienced fellowThese stories pop up here every so often and I always find myself asking the same questions. What did you guys expect? That the SP is going to retire and become your GF or wife? Are you even ready or capable of that?
Well said MissTanya.Sps & clients are human so feelings can happen.
Life is short. If someone special comes into your life, appreciate them, cherish them, don't manipulate them, accept them the way they are, don't try to change them & try your best not to hurt them.
But a red flag to me is when some people stick a permanent "sp" label or "client" label on someone, If you can't see past their JOB...which is just a job.. or a HOBBY which is just a hobby then maybe it's best to keep things purely professional... Some can handle it, others can't & I think the majority fall under the latter..
It is still a form of love. Just that the English language is bereft of a range of words to describe the different forms of love (or we don't use what we have available to us). The ancient Greeks (for instance) were much better at it with words/concepts such as: philia (deep friendship), ludus (playful love), pragma (long lasting love), philautia (love of self), storge (love for your family members), eros (sexual passion), agape (pure love for everyone). Our understanding and sense of the different forms of love is not well-developed.It's not just the case of falling in love.... there are other feelings that do twist things.... example when you get to a certain age... and you get a great connection with a young SP... easy to.start caring... feel over protective of them... since we have more life experience... and don't wish any harm to happen to these girls.... it's not being in love... it's being caring.....
I have never expected her to be my GF .... or my lover .... all I expected was a mutual respect for each other.... easy enough.... when she needed me I was there... never said no... always made time.... not because I was in love..... but I cared...and at my age....I have enough experience to separate and tell the difference....
With our education system? Journalists don't get their and there correct, if we had words that didn't require a modifier to describe snow - we would get Journalists stating "because of the extreme cold, we will have (word for wet slippery snow) on the roads" because even a good spell/grammar checker isn't going to offer the word for ice.It is still a form of love. Just that the English language is bereft of a range of words to describe the different forms of love (or we don't use what we have available to us). The ancient Greeks (for instance) were much better at it with words/concepts such as: philia (deep friendship), ludus (playful love), pragma (long lasting love), philautia (love of self), storge (love for your family members), eros (sexual passion), agape (pure love for everyone). Our understanding and sense of the different forms of love is not well-developed.
To give an analogy, the Inuit have about 50 different words for snow, each with very specific meanings and connotations... 'cause it is a central part of their lives. We tend to use love in a very loose way to mean a whole range of things, when really we should have different words that provide meaning with more precision.
Thank you Sybian. As a reasonably recent arrival in this expansive country, there is much that I don't know, so thank you for adding weight to my analogy.Gandalf...The Inuit have 50..or more, different words for snow, then there are over 150 for the formation of it due to wind..Then there are 40 to 60 words, to describe the texture of ice ,snow, and its weight bearing properties...As well as how it sticks together.
I happen to know quite a few Inuit...And your right .The word "Love" is used with a fairly broad brush.
I do have children.... they are adults now.... and I have to say.... giving advice to someone or to your children isn't with the intention of always being listened to...... but a way to point them in a direction ....offer an option ...to any or what may be the decision they will finally make.....With our education system? Journalists don't get their and there correct, if we had words that didn't require a modifier to describe snow - we would get Journalists stating "because of the extreme cold, we will have (word for wet slippery snow) on the roads" because even a good spell/grammar checker isn't going to offer the word for ice.
I don't think that poonmiester has any children/grandchildren or he would know how much listening to advice to expect.
Interesting..... this hits very close to home right now..... I have been going through a very similar situation withat an SP that is well reviewed.
At first always got the royal treatment from her as a customer .... she soon became the only one I would see.. this past summer we grew closer.... got to meet some of her family. ... was offered to meet some of her friends but politely declined..
We spent allot of time together ....picked her up after work.. had dinner with her on a regular base... when and visited apartments she was looking to rent and so on...
When we drove around she would hold on to my arm and lean her head on my shoulder.....
Needless to say it's fairly easy to get attached to such a sweet heart..
But what I could see was ....she has a struggle between who she is..which is very sweet...generous...kind heart ....and very loveable ..... and the other part of the struggle is dealing with what she is...... a service provider .... possibly jaded from all men... and will use any possible tactic to get what she wants.....
My first fall out with her was .. me refusing to cancel my trip to Thailand and stay here.... while in Thailand she asked me to borrow a large sum of money.... not that I was afraid she wouldn't make enough to pay me back.. but afraid she may not have the intention to pay it back .... and I am talking thousands of dollars....
Having gone down this path several years ago... and having paid through the nose ... I was very cautious.... so... I set up a little test and see her reaction ...... and as expected she didn't pass ..... so.. decided to not lend her any money..... no talking for a month or so.... then went to.see her as a customer..... and we were back on track again.... I went to her place and she would come to my place..... but the one thing I did... was everytime we had sex... I always paid.... many time she refused but told her ....if I pay... I do not feel obligated ....
And if I feel like seeing her ... I don't have to hesitate ....
She would then message me at night...... saying she was sad... and missed me and wanted me....
But soon realize that was more of her SP side then private side....
She suddenly was sick.... so .. took time of work......brought her medicine..... and took the time to take care of her....
But.... as soon she was feeling better texted her... called her ... for almost 3 days and no replies..... all of a sudden I get a message from her which says....." Can you drive me to the ferry".... no Hi.... no sorry I couldn't get back to you over the past 3 days... nothing..... so told her to take a hike.... but in allot more.words then this. ...
So last straw.... later month was her birthday.... bought her a little gift ....took her to Gotham for a nice dinner... and all seem to be back in place again.... except this time.... she didn't reply to any message for the next 4 or 5 days... so I decided to end it completely ..... no more as a friend.... no more as a customer.....
I'm sure she has many other men running at her beck.and call.....
So my suggestion to you OP...... break the tie.... you will end up being takin advantage of..... treated like second class...she will certainly have you waiting to see her even if you book her early... because she will know you won't mind... and you will.sit in your car for hours....
Because who they are and what they are is 2 different person wrapped up in 1 package....
As I said before ....been there done that..... and in the end ...really... if you know your woman has slept with half of perb members and reading about it all the time..... I'm not sure this leads to a healthy relationship.....