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westwoody

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My ATF and I have no problems, she never asks for anything unreasonable.
 

poonmiester

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Interesting..... this hits very close to home right now..... I have been going through a very similar situation withat an SP that is well reviewed.
At first always got the royal treatment from her as a customer .... she soon became the only one I would see.. this past summer we grew closer.... got to meet some of her family. ... was offered to meet some of her friends but politely declined..
We spent allot of time together ....picked her up after work.. had dinner with her on a regular base... when and visited apartments she was looking to rent and so on...

When we drove around she would hold on to my arm and lean her head on my shoulder.....
Needless to say it's fairly easy to get attached to such a sweet heart..
But what I could see was ....she has a struggle between who she is..which is very sweet...generous...kind heart ....and very loveable ..... and the other part of the struggle is dealing with what she is...... a service provider .... possibly jaded from all men... and will use any possible tactic to get what she wants.....
My first fall out with her was .. me refusing to cancel my trip to Thailand and stay here.... while in Thailand she asked me to borrow a large sum of money.... not that I was afraid she wouldn't make enough to pay me back.. but afraid she may not have the intention to pay it back .... and I am talking thousands of dollars....
Having gone down this path several years ago... and having paid through the nose ... I was very cautious.... so... I set up a little test and see her reaction ...... and as expected she didn't pass ..... so.. decided to not lend her any money..... no talking for a month or so.... then went to.see her as a customer..... and we were back on track again.... I went to her place and she would come to my place..... but the one thing I did... was everytime we had sex... I always paid.... many time she refused but told her ....if I pay... I do not feel obligated ....
And if I feel like seeing her ... I don't have to hesitate ....
She would then message me at night...... saying she was sad... and missed me and wanted me....
But soon realize that was more of her SP side then private side....

She suddenly was sick.... so .. took time of work......brought her medicine..... and took the time to take care of her....
But.... as soon she was feeling better texted her... called her ... for almost 3 days and no replies..... all of a sudden I get a message from her which says....." Can you drive me to the ferry".... no Hi.... no sorry I couldn't get back to you over the past 3 days... nothing..... so told her to take a hike.... but in allot more.words then this. ...
So last straw.... later month was her birthday.... bought her a little gift ....took her to Gotham for a nice dinner... and all seem to be back in place again.... except this time.... she didn't reply to any message for the next 4 or 5 days... so I decided to end it completely ..... no more as a friend.... no more as a customer.....
I'm sure she has many other men running at her beck.and call.....

So my suggestion to you OP...... break the tie.... you will end up being takin advantage of..... treated like second class...she will certainly have you waiting to see her even if you book her early... because she will know you won't mind... and you will.sit in your car for hours....

Because who they are and what they are is 2 different person wrapped up in 1 package....

As I said before ....been there done that..... and in the end ...really... if you know your woman has slept with half of perb members and reading about it all the time..... I'm not sure this leads to a healthy relationship.....
 

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Thanks for sharing. Wow....such evil intensions they do have eh? I feel for you sir. Talk about whole hearted and genuine lady:rolleyes:. Such a Vancouverite lol. :eek::fear:

Interesting..... this hits very close to home right now..... I have been going through a very similar situation withat an SP that is well reviewed.
At first always got the royal treatment from her as a customer .... she soon became the only one I would see.. this past summer we grew closer.... got to meet some of her family. ... was offered to meet some of her friends but politely declined..
We spent allot of time together ....picked her up after work.. had dinner with her on a regular base... when and visited apartments she was looking to rent and so on...

When we drove around she would hold on to my arm and lean her head on my shoulder.....
Needless to say it's fairly easy to get attached to such a sweet heart..
But what I could see was ....she has a struggle between who she is..which is very sweet...generous...kind heart ....and very loveable ..... and the other part of the struggle is dealing with what she is...... a service provider .... possibly jaded from all men... and will use any possible tactic to get what she wants.....
My first fall out with her was .. me refusing to cancel my trip to Thailand and stay here.... while in Thailand she asked me to borrow a large sum of money.... not that I was afraid she wouldn't make enough to pay me back.. but afraid she may not have the intention to pay it back .... and I am talking thousands of dollars....
Having gone down this path several years ago... and having paid through the nose ... I was very cautious.... so... I set up a little test and see her reaction ...... and as expected she didn't pass ..... so.. decided to not lend her any money..... no talking for a month or so.... then went to.see her as a customer..... and we were back on track again.... I went to her place and she would come to my place..... but the one thing I did... was everytime we had sex... I always paid.... many time she refused but told her ....if I pay... I do not feel obligated ....
And if I feel like seeing her ... I don't have to hesitate ....
She would then message me at night...... saying she was sad... and missed me and wanted me....
But soon realize that was more of her SP side then private side....

She suddenly was sick.... so .. took time of work......brought her medicine..... and took the time to take care of her....
But.... as soon she was feeling better texted her... called her ... for almost 3 days and no replies..... all of a sudden I get a message from her which says....." Can you drive me to the ferry".... no Hi.... no sorry I couldn't get back to you over the past 3 days... nothing..... so told her to take a hike.... but in allot more.words then this. ...
So last straw.... later month was her birthday.... bought her a little gift ....took her to Gotham for a nice dinner... and all seem to be back in place again.... except this time.... she didn't reply to any message for the next 4 or 5 days... so I decided to end it completely ..... no more as a friend.... no more as a customer.....
I'm sure she has many other men running at her beck.and call.....

So my suggestion to you OP...... break the tie.... you will end up being takin advantage of..... treated like second class...she will certainly have you waiting to see her even if you book her early... because she will know you won't mind... and you will.sit in your car for hours....

Because who they are and what they are is 2 different person wrapped up in 1 package....

As I said before ....been there done that..... and in the end ...really... if you know your woman has slept with half of perb members and reading about it all the time..... I'm not sure this leads to a healthy relationship.....
 
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poonmiester

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I have to say..... in all fairness to this girl...and maybe many other SP out there... allot of that double personality is created by us pooners..... not all of us of course ....but there are pooners that tell them they are worth more then what they charge....and they should be put on a pedastal for their beauty... and so on... why you ask? I am not quite sure....maybe to be in the girls good books... or maybe get a free ride down the road.... who knows...

The girl has an amazing and loveable personality ...... but as I have seen with her... her desire to get what she wants makes her roam from potential friend to another ..... and stays with that one until someone comes along and offers more ..... easy. .. and if she can't squeeze any more out of this one.... well many others are waiting in line. ...

So sad..... I really loved her sweet side.... and I believe it would be easy for someone who has not yet been burnt by this situation to fall head first into it without even realizing what has happen until it's too late....
Anyway...I wish her luck... and hope she does reach her goals one day.....
 

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You all know the right answer. Act accordingly.

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wilde

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These stories pop up here every so often and I always find myself asking the same questions. What did you guys expect? That the SP is going to retire and become your GF or wife? Are you even ready or capable of that?
 

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I have to addmit it has happened to me a number of times with the girls I saw .
And what I found is in my case I was to old to be there lover ..but just right to in a long time friendship .I am realistic ..and all though I hold on to hope that maybe. .. perhaps ..could be ...lIke some of those rich old guys tgat get the young girl friend .. partner .. wife..
I know that what I have us the best it will get ☺ which is good for me

But of course .we fall for these girls ..it part of why we are here looking for something that was missing in our life .. a.
Now have seen it happen a few time where SP'S hook up with a client .. some times yrs later when neither are in the business any longer ..
Be open minded and any thing is possible
 

EuroSZabina

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These stories pop up here every so often and I always find myself asking the same questions. What did you guys expect? That the SP is going to retire and become your GF or wife? Are you even ready or capable of that?
I'm sure the "in love gentlemen" is a young inexperienced fellow
We just don't think of anything like that when we are in lust lol
 

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Sps & clients are human so feelings can happen.

Life is short. If someone special comes into your life, appreciate them, cherish them, don't manipulate them, accept them the way they are, don't try to change them & try your best not to hurt them.

But a red flag to me is when some people stick a permanent "sp" label or "client" label on someone, If you can't see past their JOB...which is just a job.. or a HOBBY which is just a hobby then maybe it's best to keep things purely professional... Some can handle it, others can't & I think the majority fall under the latter..
Well said MissTanya.

Wanted to comment on this thread but think my own personal views really don't align with most here. But yeah, best to watch yourselves and if you can't find that seperation, best to keep things strictly "business".
 

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I get warm fuzzy feelings for the physically perfect Emmy St Clair just from her pics and I've never met her so I can see its not impossible to develop a fondness for a particular SP. I could never date an SP but an ex SP with a clean bill of health I would never say never to
 

poonmiester

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It's not just the case of falling in love.... there are other feelings that do twist things.... example when you get to a certain age... and you get a great connection with a young SP... easy to.start caring... feel over protective of them... since we have more life experience... and don't wish any harm to happen to these girls.... it's not being in love... it's being caring.....
I have never expected her to be my GF .... or my lover .... all I expected was a mutual respect for each other.... easy enough.... when she needed me I was there... never said no... always made time.... not because I was in love..... but I cared...and at my age....I have enough experience to separate and tell the difference....
 

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Dont get your hopes up that some young SP cares about the life lessons being offered by a middle aged or older guy. No more interested than I or any of us cared about lessons offered by a middle aged lady when we were in our 20's. Its the cycle of life where we all at one point get to be young and not care and not listen to the concerns of the older generation.
 

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It's not just the case of falling in love.... there are other feelings that do twist things.... example when you get to a certain age... and you get a great connection with a young SP... easy to.start caring... feel over protective of them... since we have more life experience... and don't wish any harm to happen to these girls.... it's not being in love... it's being caring.....
I have never expected her to be my GF .... or my lover .... all I expected was a mutual respect for each other.... easy enough.... when she needed me I was there... never said no... always made time.... not because I was in love..... but I cared...and at my age....I have enough experience to separate and tell the difference....
It is still a form of love. Just that the English language is bereft of a range of words to describe the different forms of love (or we don't use what we have available to us). The ancient Greeks (for instance) were much better at it with words/concepts such as: philia (deep friendship), ludus (playful love), pragma (long lasting love), philautia (love of self), storge (love for your family members), eros (sexual passion), agape (pure love for everyone). Our understanding and sense of the different forms of love is not well-developed.

To give an analogy, the Inuit have about 50 different words for snow, each with very specific meanings and connotations... 'cause it is a central part of their lives. We tend to use love in a very loose way to mean a whole range of things, when really we should have different words that provide meaning with more precision.
 

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It is still a form of love. Just that the English language is bereft of a range of words to describe the different forms of love (or we don't use what we have available to us). The ancient Greeks (for instance) were much better at it with words/concepts such as: philia (deep friendship), ludus (playful love), pragma (long lasting love), philautia (love of self), storge (love for your family members), eros (sexual passion), agape (pure love for everyone). Our understanding and sense of the different forms of love is not well-developed.

To give an analogy, the Inuit have about 50 different words for snow, each with very specific meanings and connotations... 'cause it is a central part of their lives. We tend to use love in a very loose way to mean a whole range of things, when really we should have different words that provide meaning with more precision.
With our education system? Journalists don't get their and there correct, if we had words that didn't require a modifier to describe snow - we would get Journalists stating "because of the extreme cold, we will have (word for wet slippery snow) on the roads" because even a good spell/grammar checker isn't going to offer the word for ice.

I don't think that poonmiester has any children/grandchildren or he would know how much listening to advice to expect.
 

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Gandalf...The Inuit have 50..or more, different words for snow, then there are over 150 for the formation of it due to wind..Then there are 40 to 60 words, to describe the texture of ice ,snow, and its weight bearing properties...As well as how it sticks together.
I happen to know quite a few Inuit...And your right .The word "Love" is used with a fairly broad brush.
 

hornygandalf

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Gandalf...The Inuit have 50..or more, different words for snow, then there are over 150 for the formation of it due to wind..Then there are 40 to 60 words, to describe the texture of ice ,snow, and its weight bearing properties...As well as how it sticks together.
I happen to know quite a few Inuit...And your right .The word "Love" is used with a fairly broad brush.
Thank you Sybian. As a reasonably recent arrival in this expansive country, there is much that I don't know, so thank you for adding weight to my analogy.
If only we knew, understood and could express Love as well as the Inuit are able to precisely articulate the various nuances for snow, its attributes and formation.
 

poonmiester

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With our education system? Journalists don't get their and there correct, if we had words that didn't require a modifier to describe snow - we would get Journalists stating "because of the extreme cold, we will have (word for wet slippery snow) on the roads" because even a good spell/grammar checker isn't going to offer the word for ice.

I don't think that poonmiester has any children/grandchildren or he would know how much listening to advice to expect.
I do have children.... they are adults now.... and I have to say.... giving advice to someone or to your children isn't with the intention of always being listened to...... but a way to point them in a direction ....offer an option ...to any or what may be the decision they will finally make.....
 

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Oh wow you're one step ahead of me ..Thanks for sharing your experience !


Interesting..... this hits very close to home right now..... I have been going through a very similar situation withat an SP that is well reviewed.
At first always got the royal treatment from her as a customer .... she soon became the only one I would see.. this past summer we grew closer.... got to meet some of her family. ... was offered to meet some of her friends but politely declined..
We spent allot of time together ....picked her up after work.. had dinner with her on a regular base... when and visited apartments she was looking to rent and so on...

When we drove around she would hold on to my arm and lean her head on my shoulder.....
Needless to say it's fairly easy to get attached to such a sweet heart..
But what I could see was ....she has a struggle between who she is..which is very sweet...generous...kind heart ....and very loveable ..... and the other part of the struggle is dealing with what she is...... a service provider .... possibly jaded from all men... and will use any possible tactic to get what she wants.....
My first fall out with her was .. me refusing to cancel my trip to Thailand and stay here.... while in Thailand she asked me to borrow a large sum of money.... not that I was afraid she wouldn't make enough to pay me back.. but afraid she may not have the intention to pay it back .... and I am talking thousands of dollars....
Having gone down this path several years ago... and having paid through the nose ... I was very cautious.... so... I set up a little test and see her reaction ...... and as expected she didn't pass ..... so.. decided to not lend her any money..... no talking for a month or so.... then went to.see her as a customer..... and we were back on track again.... I went to her place and she would come to my place..... but the one thing I did... was everytime we had sex... I always paid.... many time she refused but told her ....if I pay... I do not feel obligated ....
And if I feel like seeing her ... I don't have to hesitate ....
She would then message me at night...... saying she was sad... and missed me and wanted me....
But soon realize that was more of her SP side then private side....

She suddenly was sick.... so .. took time of work......brought her medicine..... and took the time to take care of her....
But.... as soon she was feeling better texted her... called her ... for almost 3 days and no replies..... all of a sudden I get a message from her which says....." Can you drive me to the ferry".... no Hi.... no sorry I couldn't get back to you over the past 3 days... nothing..... so told her to take a hike.... but in allot more.words then this. ...
So last straw.... later month was her birthday.... bought her a little gift ....took her to Gotham for a nice dinner... and all seem to be back in place again.... except this time.... she didn't reply to any message for the next 4 or 5 days... so I decided to end it completely ..... no more as a friend.... no more as a customer.....
I'm sure she has many other men running at her beck.and call.....

So my suggestion to you OP...... break the tie.... you will end up being takin advantage of..... treated like second class...she will certainly have you waiting to see her even if you book her early... because she will know you won't mind... and you will.sit in your car for hours....

Because who they are and what they are is 2 different person wrapped up in 1 package....

As I said before ....been there done that..... and in the end ...really... if you know your woman has slept with half of perb members and reading about it all the time..... I'm not sure this leads to a healthy relationship.....
 
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