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Shakerod

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These #45 Dillusionists firmly believe when he said he could shoot someone in Times Square, he wouldn’t be arrested. The Ukraine influence peddling is yet another example of something to ignore on their part.

On the other hand any slip up by Democrats is a federal crime.
Everyone knows that was a joke. Just as it was probably a joke when certain celebrities threatened to beat him up, kill him, or as Madonna said, “Blow up the White House?”
 

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Because they are projecting all their crimes on to Trump. I think they are having second thoughts about an Impeachment vote because they have such a weak argument. Imagine trying to get rid of a president because he is trying to STOP corruption. What an upside down fucking world we are living in.
Trump is trying to stop corruption? Come on, you are not that gullible.
 

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What do you call withholding billions of dollars in military aid? How could you EVER make the argument that it's OK for a foreign nation to investigate an American Citizen?

I ask again...why defend 45 so vehemently? It can't be for the idle joy of watching him dismantle our/my democratic institutions...tell me there's a substantive reason for this blind support
Please post a direct link to proof that Trump witheld military aid, as a quid pro quo to investigate Jow Biden. It never happened.

What do you call what Biden boasted about, where he actually gave Ukraine six hours, or he would withdraw loan guarantees?

Nations ask foreign nations and their police organizations to investigate their citizens all the time. Ever hear of Interpol?

What do you call getting foreign agents to compile the Steele Dossier on Trump?

Trump is a repugnant human being, and flawed by almost any measure, but I enjoy seeing the over-sensitive far left heads explode because he's finally someone to challenge the multi-gender, you're-responsible-for-climate-change, but I'm not crowd, the let all migrants come and bring their arguments and crimes with them, Antifa fascists, ignore personal responsibilty Democrats who think anybody who doesn't think like them, is a Nazi, yet they are the ones who are most intolerant. That's why I defend Trump against ridiculous accusations, that are mostly made up by political opponents.

PS - unemployment rate in US down to 50-year low.
 

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Please post a direct link to proof that Trump witheld military aid, as a quid pro quo to investigate Jow Biden. It never happened.
What do you call what Biden boasted about, where he actually gave Ukraine six hours, or he would withdraw loan guarantees?
The prosecutor that The US, (and the majority of The EU) were leveraging to be ousted was a central figure in the corruption that was so egregious that the rest of the First World had to step-in. Biden boasting that we'll 'withhold a Billion dollars' unless he's removed, provides a useful 'sound-bite' for Fox, but the facts are The Ukraine replaced the corrupt prosecutor with one that actually DID investigate the company Biden Jr. eventually contracted with. It's useful to get the full-story ( https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/10/1/20891510/hunter-biden-burisma-ukraine-shokin)
 

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Please post a direct link to proof that Trump witheld military aid, as a quid pro quo to investigate Jow Biden. It never happened.
Let's say you're a Country (Ukraine) and your neighbor that out-guns you by a factor of 100 decides to militarily invade and occupy an Eastern Sector while amassing enough fire-power to obliterate your entire nation. Let's say the rest of the world sees this act of aggression (war) and provide you the necessary aid to defend yourself and then one of the countries (The US) providing this decides to stop, (citing that there's too much corruption in your country for us to continue supporting you) and then the leader calls and throughout the conversation repeatedly (8 times as being reported) request that you re-open investigations regarding his political rival (Biden, Sr.) and family members (Biden Jr.). You mention that you really need those Javelins to fend off the country invading you (Russia) and that leader (45) says 'I'd like a favor, though'.

That's the 'essence' (as Shiff so 'illegally' paraphrased), and your argument is that an explicit 'tit-for-tat' is the bar upon which 'no candidate/president shall enlist the aid of ANY foreign nation'? The implication is clear, (and 45's record of investigating/policing corruption is woefully non-existent)...'get me something on Biden and I'll (begrudgingly) release the funds that have been appropriated by Congress.

I can't see how those 'dots' don't connect.
 

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Let's say you're a Country (Ukraine) and your neighbor that out-guns you by a factor of 100 decides to militarily invade and occupy an Eastern Sector while amassing enough fire-power to obliterate your entire nation. Let's say the rest of the world sees this act of aggression (war) and provide you the necessary aid to defend yourself and then one of the countries (The US) providing this decides to stop, (citing that there's too much corruption in your country for us to continue supporting you) and then the leader calls and throughout the conversation repeatedly (8 times as being reported) request that you re-open investigations regarding his political rival (Biden, Sr.) and family members (Biden Jr.). You mention that you really need those Javelins to fend off the country invading you (Russia) and that leader (45) says 'I'd like a favor, though'.

That's the 'essence' (as Shiff so 'illegally' paraphrased), and your argument is that an explicit 'tit-for-tat' is the bar upon which 'no candidate/president shall enlist the aid of ANY foreign nation'? The implication is clear, (and 45's record of investigating/policing corruption is woefully non-existent)...'get me something on Biden and I'll (begrudgingly) release the funds that have been appropriated by Congress.

I can't see how those 'dots' don't connect.
As I knew, you cannot link to any "smoking gun" or direct threat on any call. You're just buying the steaming pile Schiff is selling you, and regurgitating what he's fed you. When he invented entire parts of the call to justify his attack, it should have been a clue.

And about what Biden did, threatening to withold funds? Forgot that, did you?

You might also want to have some facts added to see where your belief in Schiff lies - "The Trump-Zelensky call sparked House Democrats to launch an impeachment inquiry into the president last week — despite the fact that both presidents denied any pressure was applied to probe into the Biden family."

"Newly disclosed text messages show*Gordon Sondland, the United States Ambassador to the European Union, defended President Donald Trump’s July 25 telephone call with the leader of Ukraine, affirming the president has said “no quid pro quo of any kind” took place between the heads of state, according to a report.

"Ruslan Ryaboshapka, the Ukraine's prosecutor general, said at a news conference that his office was instructed to review cases that have been closed, fragmented or investigated to make sure they were fairly and thoroughly handled. He said no one attempted to influence him to make the call."
 

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I'm 'regurgitating' the transcript from 45's phone call that The White House released (as some form of exoneration), the whistle-blower/Schiff/etc. are essentially rendered irrelevant by the open solicitation(s) encouraging Foreign Nations to 'investigate' political rivals. If that behavior is OK with anyone, then it's time to read (reread) The Constitution of The United States.
 

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I'm 'regurgitating' the transcript from 45's phone call that The White House released (as some form of exoneration), the whistle-blower/Schiff/etc. are essentially rendered irrelevant by the open solicitation(s) encouraging Foreign Nations to 'investigate' political rivals. If that behavior is OK with anyone, then it's time to read (reread) The Constitution of The United States.
It hasn't gone unnoticed that you didn't post a link to the transcript of the call.
I have read it in its entirety, and nothing bad was said, certainly no threats.
Another zippitty doo da nothing, the Dems are trying to turn into something.
 

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As I knew, you cannot link to any "smoking gun" or direct threat on any call. You're just buying the steaming pile Schiff is selling you, and regurgitating what he's fed you. When he invented entire parts of the call to justify his attack, it should have been a clue.

And about what Biden did, threatening to withold funds? Forgot that, did you?

You might also want to have some facts added to see where your belief in Schiff lies - "The Trump-Zelensky call sparked House Democrats to launch an impeachment inquiry into the president last week — despite the fact that both presidents denied any pressure was applied to probe into the Biden family."

"Newly disclosed text messages show*Gordon Sondland, the United States Ambassador to the European Union, defended President Donald Trump’s July 25 telephone call with the leader of Ukraine, affirming the president has said “no quid pro quo of any kind” took place between the heads of state, according to a report.

"Ruslan Ryaboshapka, the Ukraine's prosecutor general, said at a news conference that his office was instructed to review cases that have been closed, fragmented or investigated to make sure they were fairly and thoroughly handled. He said no one attempted to influence him to make the call."
While you are correct, Trump haters do not care about the truth, only thing they want is to put Trump down, and nothing else matters to them.

I almost feel sorry for them, it can't be easy having so much hatred inside, they would do anything, and listen to any lie, so long as it is against Trump. I just can't imagine being so full of hate.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.courier-journal.com/amp/3637723002
 

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There may be no "direct link" as many have said above, but there sure are a lot of smoking guns ( or Smocking guns) in all this.
One thing that I have not heard the media ( or others) say yet, is that when tRump is found to be correct ( it has happened), he is a smug bastard. When he has been pointed out to be wrong, he comes out swinging (with no real aim nor facts to support his claim), and gets completely unravelled.
The purpose of the impeachment process is...
I"t's so that if any officer is accused of wrong doings he/she can be tried and they can decide if he/she deserves to keep his/her position."
However, their must be a vote, and since tRump has the numbers ( and we all know his flock will not go against their sheppard ( I used this spelling on purpose)) and will most likely not be impeached.
Goes back to the old saying "Absolute power corrupts absolutely".
But it sure makes for interesting TV.
 

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There is talk in US press that Pence may not come out of this Ukraine mess that Trump has gotten them into unscathed.. There is a chance that Trump and Pence might both be impeached. And if both are forced out of office, guess who becomes President? The speaker of the house of representatives, that's who! Can you imagine how pissed off the Trump lovers would be if Pelosi became President? I'd be laughing my fucking head off.

JD
 

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There is talk in US press that Pence may not come out of this Ukraine mess that Trump has gotten them into unscathed.. There is a chance that Trump and Pence might both be impeached. And if both are forced out of office, guess who becomes President? The speaker of the house of representatives, that's who! Can you imagine how pissed off the Trump lovers would be if Pelosi became President? I'd be laughing my fucking head off.

JD

This would be priceless.
 

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This would be priceless.
Dont hold your breath waiting for it to happen though. There is no world that exists where the Senate is going to uphold the impeachment of Trump but as things stand, its the only way that the Dems can win in 2020 so I imagine they are going to take a shot at it. Trump is actually playing it smart going after Biden because all his dirty laundry gets brought up in an impeachment trial and likely destroys his candidacy and Biden is the only leading candidate right now bringing the Democrats the black vote which they desperately need to win.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-do-black-democrats-usually-prefer-establishment-candidates/





With Biden damaged the leading candidates policies are all far too left wing for the average American voter excluding white metropolitan area "progressives". Do you really believe that American voters as a whole are enamored with a party supporting expensive programs the bulk of paying for it will lie on the backs of the middle class....green new deal, open borders, healthcare for all including illegal immigrants, mandatory gun buyback, reparations and free college, stop all fracking (at a time when the US is leading the world in oil production and several key swing states rely on the jobs it provides)...and at a time when the economy continues rolling along on a record pace? No billlionaire or corporation is going to bear the brunt of a wealth tax if its imposed. They will either make plans to get their money out before legislation is passed or if corporations pass any extra cost along to the consumer



So what other option do the Democrats have but to go for impeachment....but it could also be a disaster if there is not enough meat on the bone and it winds up like the Mueller Report did after over 2 years of investigation....sure, some process crimes but no Russian collusion despite Schiffs continual insistence that he had definitive proof( which for some reason he never revealed..more than likely because it never existed). The American public will tire of years and years of endless inquiries that go nowhere and I think that if they do go ahead there needs to be more than what has been presented thus far or the Democrats will be the victims of investigation fatigue. The Democrats do have some more moderate candidates I believe could beat Trump given an opportunity but they are buried at the bottom of the pack and likely wont survive till November (Delaney, Tulsi Gabbard)

So I see a combination of a failed impeachment attempt, unappealing candidates and untenable policies all spelling disaster for the Democrats in 2020.

And I still envision that if its a Bidenless race at the Convention it will inspire the DNC to bring Hillary back out of mothballs for a second try to slay the dragon.
 

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Dont hold your breath waiting for it to happen though. There is no world that exists where the Senate is going to uphold the impeachment of Trump but as things stand, its the only way that the Dems can win in 2020 so I imagine they are going to take a shot at it. Trump is actually playing it smart going after Biden because all his dirty laundry gets brought up in an impeachment trial and likely destroys his candidacy and Biden is the only leading candidate right now bringing the Democrats the black vote which they desperately need to win.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-do-black-democrats-usually-prefer-establishment-candidates/

And I still envision that if its a Bidenless race at the Convention it will inspire the DNC to bring Hillary back out of mothballs for a second try to slay the dragon.
With all the crap that Trump has laid down the last 3 years, I would hope that Hiliary could win with one hand tied behind her back. If not, then I would have lost all respect for the idiots that would vote Trump in for a 2nd term. Fooled them once, shame on Trump, fool them twice, shame on them!

Though having said that, it would mean 4 more great years of late night tv comedy and shows like SNL entertaining me if Trump won 2nd term. Late night tv would be so much more boring with Hiliary as president. Here is a sample of what we would miss without Trump:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amOpD2ka2Mw

JD
 
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Unfortunately Trump is teflon..He has escaped everything...Sadly another 4 years is on the way if they don't get him now.
 

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There is talk in US press that Pence may not come out of this Ukraine mess that Trump has gotten them into unscathed.. There is a chance that Trump and Pence might both be impeached. And if both are forced out of office, guess who becomes President? The speaker of the house of representatives, that's who! Can you imagine how pissed off the Trump lovers would be if Pelosi became President? I'd be laughing my fucking head off.

JD
Bwahahahahahahaha

I really appreciate this post a lot.
My goal is to laugh often, and this really did make me laugh a lot.
 

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I really wonder what the Democrats, their media nodding donkeys and Trump haters are really afraid of. Why is looking into possible corruption of an American Vice President a bad thing? Why wouldn't the American people,the Democrats and Joe Biden want to be fully, and conclusively cleared, if there is nothing to be found? After all, they were all eager to investigate Trump for corruption.

For an investigation into Hunter Biden's possibe Ukraine corruption to help Trump in any way, three things have to happen:

1. There has to be corruption found.
2. Joe Biden has to be connected to the corruption.
3. Joe Biden has to get the nomination to run for president.

If any one of them doesn't happen, the benefit to Trump is zero, and in fact, could benefit Biden.
 
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