Yeah, but you're a lot more knowledgeable about affairs outside the United States than most Americans.... you have to admit, you're smarter than most of them. There's lots of ignorant ones out there..... most Americans would just assume Toronto was in the US (well, there is a Toronto, but not THE Toronto).dittman said:
Congrats RCMP
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Rick, I actually meant that as a "softer target", Canada was not nearly as high a priority as the U.S. and the rest of the "coalition of the misguided". It was not meant as a comment as to Canada's ability to track and keep track of the potential offenders. Just thought I'd clarify....
Hopefully everyone of them is given Dangerous Offender Status and locked away for life with no chance of release.
EVER!
Thumbs up RCMP/CSIS
Canada is proud of your hard work
As for those wanting to talk about lib con policy perhaps another thread is a better venue
EVER!
Thumbs up RCMP/CSIS
Canada is proud of your hard work
As for those wanting to talk about lib con policy perhaps another thread is a better venue
"Dangerous Offender Status" - I don't know about that, but a Security Certificate is more likely going to be issued against them. They save those for the special cases like this one.wylecoyote said:
At least Canada wasn't caught with their pants down, like the States where on 911. I only hope people don't start treating all muslims like terrorist now. The scarry thing is some of these guys were born and raised canadians!
georgebushmoron said:
Then I guess Harper really blew it. By extending our stay in Afghanistan, Canada is now a target.
We've really got to get the Liberals back in power.
However, I still don't understand why the muslims hate us Canadians to the point of considering using violence. Canada has always been relatively friendly and supportive of muslim nations. And we've even contributed millions of dollars to the Palistinians authorities and other Muslim nations and provided humanitarian aid.
Fudd said:Then I guess Harper really blew it. By extending our stay in Afghanistan, Canada is now a target.
We've really got to get the Liberals back in power.
However, I still don't understand why the muslims hate us Canadians to the point of considering using violence. Canada has always been relatively friendly and supportive of muslim nations. And we've even contributed millions of dollars to the Palistinians authorities and other Muslim nations and provided humanitarian aid.
The official line is to say that Afghanistan is a peace mission to rebuild the country. At the same time, the Pentagon admits that the number of fighters for the Taliban insurgency has doubled since the US invasion 5 years ago. If there is still a lot of fighting between coalition troops and the insugents, then what is the real progress of nation building? What are coalition troops really doing.... building or fighting a war?
"Mr. Day dismissed the notion that the alleged terror plot was tied to Canada's military involvement in Afghanistan, where a senior Taliban commander recently warned that Canadian soldiers must leave his country or be killed “one by one.” .... in reference to that genius Stockwell Day, full story: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060605.terror-ottawa05/BNStory/National/home
The Bush administration has given countries that did not participate in Iraq a face-saving way out by allowing them to "nation build" in Afghanistan. It seems that the Conservative government of Canada do not want to anger the US any more than the previous Liberal gov. But the Bush administration also knows that Pakistan, which was an "ally" on the War on Terror, has never really been compliant to US demands of opening an eastern front, allowing the use of bases, and pursuing Bin Laden in its mountainous regions. In fact, the Bush adminstration knows that the doubling of the Taliban resistance is occuring by way of fighters entering from the Pakistan border with Afghanistan. The War on Terror is fought on many fronts, and the activities by coalition troops in Afghanistan is to conduct war (or "secure the peace" - so to speak). They are a long way from any real nation building.
So Canada is a target for terrorism, because guess what.... whether or not Canadians want to believe it (do they suffer from the same intractable sense of denial that Americans do?), they are now fighting a war against extremist Muslims and they are bringing this war to your doorstep.
luckydog71 said:
GWBM - it is a conclusion based on the fact that the RCMP has watched these guys for 2 years. It is also unlikely (although possible I guess) that these guys pulled together in the few short weeks Harper has been PM. I do not believe there is any noticeable difference between the Libs and Cons that would tick off the terrorists if they were not already pissed at you guys.georgebushmoron said:
The actual motivations of the seventeen plotters would be interesting. I think they are less idealistic than they imagine themselves to be, and much more like the two assholes at Columbine: mad at the world and looking for someone to blame for all their troubles and failed aspirations.luckydog71 said:
Most of them are upper middle class- nice houses in the pictures in the National Post- there are no starving refugee camp types here. Friends and family have commented how some of the plotters were quite normal but underwent a personality change, a couple even to the point of ostracism from family and former best friends. The former classmates of one spoke of how he went from being a very good student to cutting classes to pray at a mosque, and wanted nothing to do with his former friends or even his own brothers and sisters, whom he abused for not praying enough.They invented, or were manipulated into inventing a fantasy where everyone who wasn't also a jihadist was an enemy, and they could become heroes by martyring themselves.
