Congrats RCMP

[luckydog71]

I just read on MSNBC web that the RCMP arrested 17 people in Toronto that were in possession of explosives and had plans to attacked Toronto building. CSIS building was mentioned.

The report said they had three metric tons of ammonium nitrate — or three times the amount used in the 1995 bombing in Oklahoma City.

What a fantastic job by the RCMP.

 

[stryker]

That would have made a very big crater!!ouch.

 

[westwoody]

Quite disturbing, everybody always thinks it will never happen to them, well here it is folks, it is now happening to us.
I'm waiting to see more info about this, it'll be a few days before we can get a clear account of what is going on.

 

[FuZzYknUckLeS]

All the more reason for our govt. to distance ourselves from U.S. foreign policy.

 

[Rod Steel]

Canada's on Osama's hit list. So this was bound to happen sooner or later. Lucckily we caught 'em this time. Next time we may not get so lucky.

 

[The Lizard King]

All the more reason for our govt. to distance ourselves from U.S. foreign policy.

Exactly...but it's too late. We were a softer target but me thinks it ain't that way now. This is all Harper needs to justify getting closer to Bush and his policies, both foreign and domestic. What a tragedy....

 

[dexi]

Exactly...but it's too late. We were a softer target but me thinks it ain't that way now. This is all Harper needs to justify getting closer to Bush and his policies, both foreign and domestic. What a tragedy....

Okay, so I'm gonna put on my stars 'n' stripes thinking cap. Obviously, the smart thing for us to do now would be to elect a Conservative majority (as soon as they let us) so that Harper and his friends can continue to protect us. We don't want no fuckin' soft, panty-wetting liberals occupying the high offices during these hard times! We should immediately increase military spending and hack and slash social programs. Oh right, Harper already did that with his budget. Good, one less thing. If we get strong enough, Harper will get to use nifty catch phrases like "If you ain't fer us, you're agin us!" and maybe even get to wear a look-at-my-big-cock-that-I-use-to-fuck-my-wife-and-no-one-else flight suit. If Harper gets his majority, he can awkwardly don a different tough guy, slightly homoerotic costume as often as he likes!

Maybe, just maybe, the RCMP caught this group because they followed their protocols, followed up on leads and generally didn't underestimate their "opponent." Maybe someone got a memo with a title like "terrorist plan to blow up building" and didn't just ignore it or shred it.

 

[luckydog71]

All the more reason for our govt. to distance ourselves from U.S. foreign policy.

Although I started this as sincere congratulations to the RCMP well done, I can not help but ask how you could get any further away from supporting US policy.

There are many people in my country who believe appeasement works. It was the very same logic Europe used before the start of WW2 and one the US used well after the start of WW2.

I know you find this hard to believe but these guys hate everyone who is not radical Muslim. I know they have not confirmed that these guys were radical Muslims but I would be very surprised if they were not.

This bunch will kill out of shear hate. Even traditional Muslims are not safe. They have attacked Spain. Spain pulled their troops. They attacked Saudis. Hell half of them are Saudis.

This will come as a shock to the peace at any price crowd, but Canada has been a target long before Harper was elected.

And now back to my original point. This was a job well done by the RCMP. I tip my toque to them.

 

[IQof10]

Just another hijacked thread. ( No pun intended).

I agree well done by the RCMP and whoever assisted.

Welcome to Canada the land of opportunity. Oh! No! sorry we did not say that it was ok to kill the people of Canada in the name of alah.

Makes me wonder of what's up in Vancouver????????

 

[rickoshadows]

Exactly...but it's too late. We were a softer target but me thinks it ain't that way now. This is all Harper needs to justify getting closer to Bush and his policies, both foreign and domestic. What a tragedy....

I don't think we are "softer target". Our constitution and governmental system permits better monitoring of suspected persons and more cooperation between agencies (Air India excepted) than does the US, not as well as Britain perhaps, but better than in most of US. US authorities make up for the difference with more controls on entry and other ways which get around jurisdictional protectionism between states.

In this case, these guys were being watched for some time. when they started assembling the pieces, CSIS and the police busted them. According the press release, they didn't have to use a "Security Certificate" and are able to lay charges and make a case using the pre-exisitng laws of the land. Now we wait and see what the Judiciary does these guys.

 

[BC visitor]

Watch out Canada!

You’re harboring terrorists & you’ve got oil… we might just have to bring democracy to your country!

Just jerking your chain a little!

 

[FuZzYknUckLeS]

Way to live up to yer handle!

Just another hijacked thread. ( No pun intended). ...

Please do explain. Maybe I'm the idiot here... Since this police bust is a direct result of Canada's policys towards supporting our allies interests abroad, I fail to see where the hijacking has occured.

 

[Rod Steel]

Makes me wonder of what's up in Vancouver????????

HUH??

I'm puzzled here. What are you talikng about IQ10?

 

[georgebushmoron]

I was watching CNN (as usual) and here were the words they used (verbatim) in their first description of the arrests:


"20 people in Toronto were arrested in the largest terrorist bust by covert officers since 9-11 in New York".

That was the end of it (it was a "news short").

It was an interesting and purposeful choice of words. Does it make it seem like the arrests were made in the United States? No mention of "RCMP". Is it another case of American self-ego-appeasement?

 

[FuZzYknUckLeS]

I was watching CNN (as usual) and here were the words they used (verbatim) in their first description of the arrests:


"20 people in Toronto were arrested in the largest terrorist bust by covert officers since 9-11 in New York".

That was the end of it (it was a "news short").

It was an interesting and purposeful choice of words. Does it make it seem like the arrests were made in the United States? No mention of "RCMP". Is it another case of American self-ego-appeasement?

Exactly gbm. And this is why I haven't watched that propaganda machine CNN in many years. The intent, in my mind, is to reassure the American people that the 'war on terror' is working and that all the sacrifices, both economically and with regards to personal privacy, are worth it. It's like they're saying: "See? We caught some of the terrorists that everyone is so terrified of." It implies that 'we' are not just the U.S., but a larger consortium of law enforcement working together in unison on a worldwide effort alongside the U.S. They actually like to make it look like everyone is working under the U.S.'s direction, like it's some big, well-thought-out, painstakingly choreographed assault on evil, with all due credit going to Uncle Sam.

 

[HankQuinlan]

I noticed today that there seems to be some indication that the bust was a result of information given to the RCMP by Toronto's Islamic community.

And that there is also a connection with investigations in other Western Countries, including the UK and our allies in the US.

The full story will probably not appear for months, or years if they hold it back until trials are held.

 

[dittman]

not really gbm, just reading that lead, my first thought is that the canadien cops are on top of it they did a good job.

 

[dirtydan]

Although I started this as sincere congratulations to the RCMP well done, I can not help but ask how you could get any further away from supporting US policy.

There are many people in my country who believe appeasement works. It was the very same logic Europe used before the start of WW2 and one the US used well after the start of WW2.

I know you find this hard to believe but these guys hate everyone who is not radical Muslim. I know they have not confirmed that these guys were radical Muslims but I would be very surprised if they were not.

This bunch will kill out of shear hate. Even traditional Muslims are not safe. They have attacked Spain. Spain pulled their troops. They attacked Saudis. Hell half of them are Saudis.

No doubt being beside the US means there will always be a strong measure of good relations with Canada. However LD you clearly missed the point, and that is Canada has long needed to take a more independent line in its foreign policy. Canada would not be doing itself anykind of a favour by basing its foreign policy on the idea of whatever the US does we're in favour of it.

Furthermore only a fool in favour of a black and white world view would buy into the crap that if one doesn't support Dubyah's War that they are in favour of appeasement. The peoples of the Middle East have long been dumped on by the Western countries looking to secure oil resources. I think showing a little respect in the Middle East would go a long way to reducing the amount of voilence in the region.

This will come as a shock to the peace at any price crowd, but Canada has been a target long before Harper was elected.

And now back to my original point. This was a job well done by the RCMP. I tip my toque to them.

Indeed Canada is a target, however more so with a blatantly pro-US government now in Ottawa.

 

[dirtydan]

Although I started this as sincere congratulations to the RCMP well done, I can not help but ask how you could get any further away from supporting US policy.

There are many people in my country who believe appeasement works. It was the very same logic Europe used before the start of WW2 and one the US used well after the start of WW2.

The US practiced appeasement well after the start of WW2? Care to expound on that LD? Are you referring to vast amounts of lend-lease the US supplied to the UK and USSR? Or are you referring to the agreements the Big 3 negotiated for the post-war world?

 

[georgebushmoron]

I know you find this hard to believe but these guys hate everyone who is not radical Muslim. ....
This bunch will kill out of shear hate.

Hey LD.... I don't think you're quite right about them hating everyone who is not a radical Muslim. Osama himself declared (a week ago) that were Canada to stay out of Afghanistan, that Al Queda would have no business with Canada. This is actually very similar in the line of thinking of Islamists (which was a study of mine awhile ago), to have no business with those who leave you alone. But you are exactly right about one thing: they do kill out of hatred.

This will come as a shock to the peace at any price crowd, but Canada has been a target long before Harper was elected.

Are you sure about that? I don't know that anyone can be sure, for no evidence was made public as such. But given Osama's warning to Canada, and Canada's involvement in Afghanistan, ..... if you believe anybody about whether or not Canada is a target now, you should believe it when you hear it from the horse's mouth (Osama, that is).