"Chick Cars"

[Right Said Fred]

I would say a girlie car for sure would be a VW. I used to date a girl that had one. Hers had eyelashes and everything, lol. She drove an original one from the 70's and kept it in amazing condition. It was such a cute little car.

A manly car would be a 1969 Mustang, or any of the Brand new Mustangs. The Mustang went through an embarrassing phase in the 80's, but its back to being a very beefy car, mmmm

One of my best friends had a blue 69 Mustang and it sounded beautiful. He drove the crap out of it though which was ashame.

 

[owz]

My 1990 Miata was awesome. I did the highway between Port Alberni and Tofino in half the time it normally takes, doing 80 around corners that were marked 20.

I call BS...

 

[AbbyGuy]

Dodge Neon - 100% chick car.

 

[Krustee]

Power to you for liking your Miata, but to quote that the Miata is
the "best balanced car in the world" from a biased Miata website
seems laughable to me.

Well it's not a quote from a biased Miata website first of all -
That is a direct quote from Jay Leno himself!

I don't think there are too many people in the world qualified to go toe to toe with Jay Leno when it comes to arguing about cars.

Keep in mind that Leno is a Miata owner - not an on the side observer.
Jay owns some of the most exotic supercars in the world with a veritable museum of vehicles that make even the most stingy of collectors jealous.

If there is somebody out there who can make an unbiased comment from vast experience Jay Leno would be one of the few with the huevos to back up his claims.

Here is another one of his claims:

Or, how about the TR3? I mean, Mazda's Miata has come as close as anyone can to recreating the famous old MG's, but there's obviously an interest in these types of cars. The unfortunate thing about the Miata is that many people refer to it as a girl's car, which is an image-killing moniker to have stuck to your car, especially if you're a guy driving that car.

Collin Chapman used to say, "You build a car, then add lightness," and that's a really great thing to say and do. Mazda did it with the Miata, as did MG and Triumph with the TR3. But we Americans seem to associate light cars with femininity, which is absolutely silly.
http://www.roadfly.com/magazine/8/jay_leno_interview.4.html

The Lotus Elan is about as light a car as you're going to get, they take out Mustangs and Corvettes on the circuits, but most people under the age of 35 don't understand the notion of a lightweight car, so they make fun of it.

Here is one of his predictions:

That’s why I think the Mazda Miata will be the ultimate affordable collectible by, say, 2025. The first-generation Miata was extremely simple, and that’s part of its charm. Years ago, when we were restoring Mustangs, they seemed so complicated compared to a Ford Model A.

A brake-light switch? Why do we have to have thaaaat? In a Model A, you just strung together a couple of yards of wire and boom! You were done. So the early Miata, with no traction control, no stability control—no nothing—will certainly be a collectible.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/jay_leno_garage/4312877.html

Even comparing it to similar vehicles in
its engine class...

2009 Mazada Miata MX-5
Engine size: 1999cc
0-60 : 6.9
1/4 mile : 15
Slalom : 64.9
Skid Pad : .86
Price as tested (base price) : $29,170 ($26,350)
http://www.edmunds.com/mazda/mx5miata/2009/testdrive.html

Heck, it can't even lay claim to the "best balanced car for its price range",
let alone "best balanced car in the world".

Re-read my stats that I posted;
My roadster weighs 2200lbs & can pull 0.93g on the skidpad with street tires. (factory)

I could throw some autocross tires on my stock rims & get a 0.98g or better if I added stiffer springs.
At 0.93g with stock tires & springs name me a car under $100,000 that will even come close!

You don't even have the weight distribution.

True that, the '89 - 2004 Miata's were bone stock some of the best handling cars ever produced.
My Miata comes factory with:

• limited slip differential
• 205/45WR16 tires
• lightweight mag wheels
• tower strut bracing
• Torsen limited-slip differential
• variable valve timing and a compression ratio of 10:1.
• four wheel double wishbone suspension

The above is not what you find on "girl" cars - it is what you find on true performance vehicles built for racing.
You could get this added at the factory from Mazda up until 2005.

The chassis has also been stiffened with numerous reinforcements all along the car.
And the manual gearbox is one the slickest-shifting in the business.
Needless to say, handling is a benchmark for most other manufacturers.
The Mazda Miata is not about unskilled straight-line drag racing. It's about skillful twisty track racing.
This car is for enthusiasts only, and there are no electronic aids to save you if you get into trouble. If you need such aids, get a BMW Z4 or a Merc SLK.

Also you really need to ad in the older models of the Miata before they went "luxury" as that is what most people are referring to. They had Skid pad results closer to .90. It is easily the best balanced car in it's price class and definitely in the top 3-5 overall.

And, the car you are comparing it with is...NOT A CONVERTIBLE.

Yet another amazing accomplishment of the Mazda engineers is that they were able to pack all that performance in a convertible chassis.

Why the heck do I need to compare weight distribution for?
Doesn't it ultimately contribute to the overall pickup and handling numbers?
The MX-5 might still be best of its class/price,
but to assert that its the best in the world when it comes to handling sounds
far fetched to me.

50/50 weight distribution is a goal for engineers when designing their race cars.
What this does is allow for much better control when pushing the car into & exiting a turn.

Cars which have heavy front ends require stiffer, stronger springs up front & this reduces the ability of the front wheels to track & maintain grip where there is undulating terrain.
Also the rear tends to want to slide out with all that weight diving in the front the rear end tends to go out making for unstable handling & fishtailing when exiting the turn.

The Miata, having even front & rear weight balanced can be thrown into the turn & pushed to it's limits with control & exacting precision.

Watch the video of the Corvette trying to keep up with the Miata I posted again folks.

I DO agree that the newer Miata's are NOT the greatest handling sports car for the money and I would put the Elise or Exige up there. But with the old 1990~ definitely.

Agreed!

Did a little more research and you are right!
The numbers for the earlier models ARE off the charts.

Still not the best balanced car in the world, though.

Not THE best but for a production vehicle definitely in the top 5!

A miata with good spring/shock or coilover combo, some sticky tires and sway bars/ chassis bracing will dominate almost any other car.

Anyways, I think we are both right to a degree and I DO agree that the new car is definitely NOT as good as the old one and that there are a few comparable cars.

The new Miata is more of a joint venture with Mazda owner Ford.
The new car (NC chassis) is a departure from the old NA & NB chassis model hence the name change; MX5

It is still a great car but in terms of performance handling it just does not capture that same dynamic.

 

[badguard69]

[[/B]

My first car was a 70 cuda...

very fast and fun but handled like a bathtub.
xoxo
Nina

Boy, if it was a big block, I'm in love!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm a total Mopar man from way back, my first car was a 70 Dart 340 Swinger, then a 68 Plymouth GTX, then a 69 Roadrunner 383......should never have sold that car!

 

[bruins70]

So I'm gay now eh?

Definitely not gay there Skippy- but unpleasant, obnoxious,pompous,pretentious, arrogant, intolerant, mean-spirited,toxic,verbose,not too bright,insecure, and delusional are all applicable.

 

[henryhill]

Definitely not gay there Skippy- but unpleasant, obnoxious,pompous,pretentious, arrogant, intolerant, mean-spirited,toxic,verbose,not too bright,insecure, and delusional are all applicable.

zing! ouch.

 

[Krustee]

Definitely not gay there Skippy- but unpleasant, obnoxious,pompous,pretentious, arrogant, intolerant, mean-spirited,toxic,verbose,not too bright,insecure, and delusional are all applicable.

That`s it?

Hmmm, I wonder what your posting history would reveal?

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/search.php?searchid=8201504

Seems you are on a mission here Grav.

Oops! - you claim not to be Grav but I would bet you do have a plastic pussy at home!

Based on your long posting history here & the content of your posting I could attribute the following to you:
undesirable, objectionable, insolent, conniving, slanderous, intolerant, recreant, pernicious, dullard, pugnacious, and delusional.

 

[bruins70]

Oops! - you claim not to be Grav but I would bet you do have a plastic pussy at home!

And you would lose that bet Skippy. But keep trying- it gives your limited intellect something to focus on.

undesirable, objectionable, insolent, conniving, slanderous, intolerant, recreant, pernicious, dullard, pugnacious, and delusional.

Like I've always said Skippy, you're incapable of an original thought- you had to crib from MY list of YOUR character flaws to fill out you list. (Except misogynist, condescending, annoying, infantile, childish, and boring which I neglected to include.)

(I DO find it amusing though, that you call me a dullard and then post a link to a non-existent page. Good work there Dopey, would rank right up there with your best if you HAD any best work.The cut and paste you regularly steal from brighter lights and claim as your own doesn't count.)

 

[veilside23]

3 of my female friends all have PT cruisers.

 

[Krustee]

And you would lose that bet Skippy. But keep trying- it gives your limited intellect something to focus on.

Unlike you with me, I don't focus on you, I merely tolerate & retort with you.

Like I've always said Skippy, you're incapable of an original thought- you had to crib from MY list of YOUR character flaws to fill out you list. (Except misogynist, condescending, annoying, infantile, childish, and boring which I neglected to include.)

Golly gee there my floppy phallic'd foe, you really hit the nail on the head there.
My retort was indeed condescending.

(I DO find it amusing though, that you call me a dullard and then post a link to a non-existent page. Good work there Dopey, would rank right up there with your best if you HAD any best work.The cut and paste you regularly steal from brighter lights and claim as your own doesn't count.)

Funny, the link works fine for me?

Maybe you've been restricted?

As for my stealing everybody else's ideas I highly doubt you've read everything I've posted but I will admit to posting a lot of the things I've read here for others to see & comment on.

Aside from that the difference from myself & you is that I actually have a liberal reading repertoire on a multitude of subject matter.

Haven't seen much variety from you just the same stale, sardonic, salacious & irascible bitching that you seem to thrive on.

You remind me of mars_man, you post the same incessant, fanatically feeble minded flummery that flows from his fickle & frenetic fingers.

 

[dudeharsh123]

People can love their Miata's all they want. It's cool, I personally do not like them, and would never, EVER drive one. Who cares what I, or anybody else thinks, it's your car, and If you are happy and comfortable driving one, thats all that matters. There is no need to defend yourself or your reasons for driving one. There are probablly things that I enjoy that the majority do not like, that doesnt make any difference to me.

 

[Krustee]

It's cool, I personally do not like them, and would never, EVER drive one.

Hmmm... so I wonder why that is?

Would you drive the car I used drive?

If yes, why would you drive that car & not my MX5?

What is it about the "Miata" that you don't like?

If a race promoter offered you $200,000 per year to race a Miata on SCCA road courses would you turn him down?

Who cares what I, or anybody else thinks, it's your car, and If you are happy and comfortable driving one, thats all that matters. There is no need to defend yourself or your reasons for driving one. There are probablly things that I enjoy that the majority do not like, that doesnt make any difference to me.

Very good perceptions there & I agree, but I am not defending why I drive a Miata I am correcting the misconceptions & providing facts that the vast majority of people do not know about this amazing little car because it deserves to be mentioned.

The quality of the engineering behind the MX5 is exceptional & being a car nut myself, I can appreciate that engineering.

That same excellent engineering is why I also drive a $100,000 Mercedes S-Class sedan.

People tell me I'm driving an "Old man" car & that I should have purchased a Mustang or Camaro then modified it using all that extra money.

I've owned close to 20 cars myself & driven well over 200 different autos.

Most people look at the outside of the car & care about how it looks.
Most people buy a car for an image they are attempting to portray.
It's all about perception not necessarily reality.

Truth is, most have no concept of what good engineering is.

I work in an engineering occupation so I look for quality engineering in other products out of habit.

When I drive other cars such as rentals or other peoples cars or just taking an opportunity to drive a new model at the dealer, I scrutinize them as I drive em.

I decided to purchase my Benz after just one test drive of a coworkers S-Class because it was the most amazing sedan I had ever driven.

The vast majority of people out there are not buying a car to drive because they are impressed with the engineering, hell, most out there don't know the difference between leaf springs or McPherson struts.

It goes back to what I always say about people -
Symbolism over substance!

 

[Krustee]

Who cares what I, or anybody else thinks, it's your car, and If you are happy and comfortable driving one, thats all that matters.

Hey dude... what about an Austin Healy?

3000 Mk III BJ8

How about a 1950 MG TD Roadster?

Or what about this ..... Thing?

Is there any small car that you dudes think is "manly" or does it have to have a big frikin V8 to be "manly"?

 

[wilde]

Chicks car - no, feminine - you be the judge!

 

[Krustee]

DUE TO MY BEING DIAGNOSED WITH TERMINAL CANCER IN FEBRUARY 2005, AT THE AGE OF 24, I HAD TO SELL ELLE AND RETURN TO THE US. THE MAN WHO BOUGHT HER PAINTED HER WHITE, SO AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, SHE LIVES NOW ONLY IN THE MEMORIES OF THE PEOPLE WHO SAW HER, AND HERE ON THIS PAGE. I ALSO HAD TO SELL MY SHINSEN BECAUSE I WAS NOT ALLOWED TO DRIVE FOR THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR, AND THAT WASN'T FAIR TO HER OR TO ME. SHE WENT TO A WOMAN WHO LOVES AND KNOWS MIATAS, SO AT LEAST ONE OF MY CARS HAS A HAPPY ENDING. I HOPE TO BEAT MY DISEASE AND RETURN TO THE MIATA COMMUNITY ONE DAY.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/294259/6

There you go Wilde, I added the part you left out - so it is a complete story now.

Sad story - hope she beats the cancer & can once again get the joy of driving such a fun car!

 

[Krustee]

OK - I found a small car with a frikin V8 in it.

This should be "manly" enough for you dudes.

260 cubic inch Ford V8 with 4 barrel carb

How about a resto-mod Austin Healy?
with a big frikin V8!!

Here's the stats:

Owner: Ray Bencar
City: Mentor, OH
Model: 1965 Austin-Healey 3000 III BJ8
Engine: Chevy 350 (supercharged and nitrous injected)
Conversion completed by: Owner

Engine: Chevrolet 350cid Hi-Performance, bored 0.060" over.
Induction: 6-71 supercharger, plus 16-port NOS system.
Cam: Hi Pro Max roller cam.
Cooling: custom six tube 11-fin-per-inch radiator with two high volume electric fans. Oil cooler with a 900cfm fan.
Exhaust: custom headers to leg pipes.
Transmission: Borg-Warner T56 LT1 6-speed manual.
Clutch: 4200# 11" with hydraulic throw-out bearing (ie: "HTOB").
Driveshaft: 1 7/8" diameter solid alloy, 12" long.
Rear Axle: 12-bolt Chevy with Posi-Traction and Strange Engineering axles.
Front Susp.: stock plus two additional shocks and a modified torsion bar.
Rear Susp.: stock plus traction bars, two additional shocks, and a modified torsion bar.
Brakes: drilled and slotted discs (front) and Chevy drum brakes (rear). Dashboard-mounted proportioning valve.
Wheels/Tires: chromed American wheels, with P245/50 (front) tires and P265/50 (rear) tires.
Electrical: custom wiring (by Ray Bencar). Gauge package includes: volt meter, water temperature, oil temperature, NOS pressure, boost, tachometer (engine RPM), speedometer (0-500mph), oil pressure, fuel level, and fuel pressure.
Completed: never! (Note: Ray has owned the car 38 years, and began the V8 conversion in 1976.)
Miles Driven: about 25,000 since the conversion, as of British V8 2007.
Other mods: the frame is reinforced ("boxed") in quarter inch steel from the transmission mount forward to the front suspension.
Comments: with nitrous oxide turned up and supercharger at full boost,
Ray's engine produces over 1400 horsepower.

http://www.britishv8.org/Other/RayBencar.htm

 

[Krustee]

Here's a small car with some serious performance:

1996 Toyota Supra Twin Turbo

Specs:

With the fourth generation of the Supra, Toyota took a big leap in the direction of a more serious high performance car. Test model pre-production started in December 1992 with 20 models, and official mass production began in April 1993.[12] The new Supra was completely redesigned, with rounded body styling and featured two new engines: a naturally aspirated 2JZ-GE producing 220 hp at 5800 rpm and 210 ft·lb at 4800 rpm of torque and a twin turbocharged 2JZ-GTE making 276 hp and 318 ft·lb of torque for the Japanese version.
For the export model (America/Europe) Toyota upgraded the Supra turbo's engine (smaller, steel wheeled turbochargers, bigger fuel injectors, etc.).
This increased the power output to 320 hp at 5600 rpm and 315 ft·lb at 4000 rpm.
The turbocharged variant could achieve 0–60 mph in as low as 4.6 seconds and 1/4 mile (402 m) in 13.1 seconds at 109 mph (175 km/h) [2].
The turbo version was tested to reach over 280 km/h (174 mph) all-stock, but the cars are restricted to just 180 km/h (112 mph) in Japan and 250 km/h (155 mph) elsewhere. European versions also had an air intake on the bonnet (hood). Drag coefficient is .31 for the naturally aspirated models and .32 for the turbo models and N/A's with the rear spoiler.
The MKIV Supra's twin turbos operated in sequential mode instead of the more common parallel mode. The sequential setup featured a pair of CT-12b turbos (for the usdm market, JDM market was CT20/Ct20A with variations- some are ceramic- notorious, some are not. For UK and USDM market steel blades (CT-12b).

Toyota took measures to reduce the weight of the current model compared to the previous model. Aluminium was used for the hood, targa top (if so equipped), front crossmember, oil and transmission pans, and the suspension upper A-arms. Other measures included dished out head bolts, hollow carpet fibers, magnesium steering wheel, plastic gas tank and lid, gas injected rear spoiler, and a single pipe exhaust. Despite having more features such as dual airbags, traction control, larger brakes, larger wheels, larger tires, and an additional turbo, the car was at least 200 lb (91 kg) lighter than its predecessor. The base model with a manual transmission had a curb weight of 3,210 lb (1,460 kg). The Sport Roof added 40 lb (18 kg) while the automatic transmission added 55 lb (25 kg). It had 51% of its weight up front and 49% to the rear wheels. The turbo model came in as 3,505 lb (1,590 kg) with the manual and the automatic added another 10 lb (4.5 kg).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Supra#Mark_IV_.281993-2002.29

Some owners are able to get 750+ hp out of their engines.

Best known as the hot car on The Fast & The Furious:
Technical Specifications:
Engine
Type: Inline-6, Turbocharged
Displacement cu in (cc): 183 (2997)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 544(400) / 6800
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: n.a.
Redline at RPM: 7770
Brakes & Tires
Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/vented disc
Tires F-R: 255/35 - 285/30 ZR19
Exterior Dimensions & Weight
Length × Width × Height in: n.a.
Weight lb (kg): 3601 (1635)
Performance
Acceleration 0-62 mph s: 4.3
Top Speed mph (km/h): 185 (298)

 

[Adriana✿]

3 of my female friends all have PT cruisers.

*shudders* lol

this is funny

This is my favorite car, black though with tan interior

 

[Purrr VertIcal]

*shudders* lol

this is funny

This is my favorite car, black though with tan interior

Ahhhh! Role Reversal!
Or - You must be a Dyke,
because that is totally a manly car!

- That is, unless you paint it pink.
But! Even a Hummer is femme if it's pink.
(Did I use that word, "Hummer"? - LMAO).