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appleomac

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Mr "Save the banks and big businesses and ignore the rest of the people", strikes again. :facepalm:
Government is doing too little. People are not following distancing when outside.

If this is taken lightly and government does not close the beaches, seawall, everything except essential stores, introduce curfew and strict rules for everyone, it will be like Bergamo in three weeks. Thousands will die.

Wake up people and stop petty left vs right bickering. This shit is serious.
What you do here is petty. Go and save more big banks and NHL owners and let intelligent people talk serious matter.
LOL. Privacy laws, in my opinion is a serious matter, which is why I brought it up in response to another country's response to the pandemic. No name calling, just a simple question and statement as to why one aspect of the South Korean response may not be possible in Canada. With all due respect; you came in with the pettiness and name calling. And then proceeded to implore other's not to do the same. Practice what you preach sir!
 

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LOL. Privacy laws, in my opinion is a serious matter, which is why I brought it up in response to another country's response to the pandemic. No name calling, just a simple question and statement as to why one aspect of the South Korean response may not be possible in Canada. With all due respect; you came in with the pettiness and name calling. And then proceeded to implore other's not to do the same. Practice what you preach sir!
You are clueless. Promoting petty, silly and now dangerous things. Korea flattened the curve and is in a reasonably OK situation now.
Italy did what you are proposing and was concerned about ridiculous false "principles" you are trying to push on the rest of us, didn't shutdown the country, and people are needlessly dying by the thousands now.
You are blinded by political extremism and I don't think you are capable of thinking clearly and rationally to discuss the serious matter here.
 
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appleomac

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You are a clueless troll, promoting petty, silly and now dangerous things. Korea flattened the curve and is in a reasonably OK situation now.
Italy did what you are proposing and was concerned about ridiculous false "principles" you are trying to push on the rest of us, didn't shutdown the country, and people are needlessly dying by the thousands now.
You are a troll blinded by political extremism so better STFU, and let people who are, unlike you, capable of thinking clearly and rationally to discuss the serious matter here.

Go away.
What you call political extremism is actually political pragmatism/realism. It's one thing to admire what South Korea did in response to the pandemic, it's another to pragmatically analyze why that may or may not be possible in Canada. Understanding what may or may not be possible from a legislative/legal perspective is thinking clearly and rationally. Simplistic statements like "this country did X, Canada should also do X" without fully comprehending how that may or may not be accomplished is the definition of being blind and incapable of clear and rationale thought.
 

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The "Business Model" ; the one every one follows is to make as much profit.... Money as possible.... To do that the business owners cut back on wages, personnel, supplies.... So they support a no "high overhead" posture...... The government is no different....

It takes time for them to ramp policies/measures up....

Yes the economy is falling off; and oil prices.

If the virus is slowed; most governments can at least hope to control the spread of it; and keep up in the hospitals..

So hopefully we all survive due to isolation for as long as it takes. The world will change. Maybe cities will have isolation wards in the future for airports and at docks where cruise ships pull in ...

Maybe governments will put more money into research and development; have goals of putting humanity first, not their own pocket books...
 

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to pragmatically analyze why that may or may not be possible in Canada.
go back to Jan, when we had our first case

the sock model and his woke friends were out and about calling people racists for "social distancing"

granted it was selective, Chinatown, Chinese restaurants

then 2 months later, we're doing it, by law

also closed the borders, resticted flights

which again, Zoolander wouldn't do cause that's racist

now we're doing it all

when all that was really needed was screening, tracking at first, airports, borders, ships, forced quarantine if necessary, ect...

then restrictions on International flights, China/Iran/Egypt/Italy

But Canada's back right?

now he's on TV today lecturing people after his failures resulted in the situation being worse than it should


he couldn't even keep his "Bitch" contained 2 weeks ago, due to her ego/his too

cause she didn't know about the virus, went to Europe, cause they had no cases 2 weeks ago, lol

fuck if we don't punt him after this

not to mention his "stimulus"

2/3 of which is "catch me later"

"pay me later"

doesn't matter he's cut off your ability to pay, so in 6 months you won't have any money, don't have any now

Canada Works under the Trudeau Liberals, lol

our Trump
 

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Is Canada doing good enough?? I think it's too early to say and personally will hold back thoughts/criticism until this is all done (or at least controlled). To make sports analogy, games aren't won in the first quarter/period..... you win the game (lose) when the final horn sounds.

Each country is unique, not only in governing model, but also in culture and geography. I think its important when comparing with other countries, we need to try and analyze/determine what specifically they are doing that makes it effective (or ineffective) and then apply it to our current situation in Canada (e.g. is it a specific policy; is it how they enforce said policy; is it applying their epidemiological model, etc etc.).

Oh yeah .... in before this thread is locked/deleted lol.
 

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Don't know about South Korean privacy laws; but exactly how is something similar possible in Canada? This may be extraordinary times; but that doesn't mean all of our laws can simply be ignored.
we have laws that can be enacted, could have been enacted, should have been enacted earlier

they can do anything, virtually, they can stop people from crossing provincial borders

they have the not withstanding clause

just look at "the laws" Trudeau chooses/chose to follow, says he couldn't disobey before

Roxham Road, it's closed, he always said he couldn't cause of "the law"

as for

Canada Works, lol

Service Canada, employees refuse to work, so in person help being shutdown

CRA, already predicting problems, with the stupid "fill in the form online" scheme for getting money out the door, cause they already don't have anyone's info right?
don't just send money, make it complicated, the old DMV jokes, stand in this line, drop your shorts, turn your head and cough


not to mention, all the incompetent people who worked there before, they'll be pulling in others

but remember the shitty report on the CRA, giving answers that weren't correct, dropping calls, that was before this, lol

Look at Alberta's failed attempt to get money out the door this week

announced help a week, week and a half ago

online 2 days ago, march 25th, crashed 2 days in a row

that's a province

extrapolate what's going to happen on a Federal scale, lol

it's suppose to start on April 6th

money suppose to be in your account on the 16th

businesses are already reporting they can't access help

hopefully you'll get your money by Sept, after you've filed for bankruptcy, homeless, fighting for that last bit of cheese off the discarded pizza box, lol

we're here from the government and we're here to help, if you fill out this form stand in that line that's closed, oh yeah and if you qualify based on our moronic specifications

online/by phone, just not in person

Canada works, lol
 

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they can do anything, virtually, they can stop people from crossing provincial borders

they have the not withstanding clause
Hate to break it to you; but no, "they" (I'm assuming you mean the government) does not have the ability to do "anything" they want. And no, the Notwithstanding Clause cannot be used to contravene Canadians' Mobility Rights (i.e. ability to freely travel within Canada) - the Notwithstanding Clause can only be used to contravene certain rights, not all rights. I get it, you basically assume the government could theoretically declare a form of Martial Law and do as they please - but they cant, even Canada's Emergencies Act falls way short of anything that resembles Martial Law. I'm not saying this is right or wrong, I'm not saying this is good or bad and I'm not saying I support this or oppose this - I'm just stating what the law is presently.
 
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