Boycotting Backpage
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LADY-VIA
I'm That's a crazy Jump. I hsvnt utalized Bsckpage here in a while now but I do maximize my adds on there while going on tour as I find that many people in other city's are unaware of other province boards.
I thought 7 dollars was a bit of a hike and I did notice the hike in the Leo bumps as well recently however they also put a discount on their feature adds which was nice. 2 months for $80 dollars which is a good deal. I'm guessing the featured adds are the same on backpage ? With the increase of single adds I'm guessing they will run random specials on their feature adds as well.
The increase to 10 dollars seems like a lot however a 10 dollar add if you are a reputable provider can potentially generate a huge profit.
Someone in another province told me once to put my name in bold right in the add title and at the very start of the add title on Bsckpage as it would be easier to pick me out of the crowd
Clients also get used to and remember your posting pattern and "bumping" patterns. So if it's possible to keep any kind of a structure in advertisements clients will remember and look for you during those times as well.
If everyone followed us or looked for us on our Twitter accounts then it would cut out a great deal of out advertisements costs.
As the summer season is coming I'll be putting my adds back on a few other sites again as I'm just on here and Leo list and I can only imagine what those costs will run me through summer now with all the increases, but I've learned to take it with a grain of salt.
However that's all part of the game. Between photoshoots, websites, advertisements, incall space, nails, hair , eyebrows, updated wardrobes, this, that & and everything in between. Yes it's a high cost to maintain and keep going, but just as in many other businesses you need to spend money to make money.
Many people spend 10 dollars a day on transit fair, and plenty more spend that or more on gas commuting daily to their jobs which don't pay out in a week as much as we can pull in in just a few hours.
I thought 7 dollars was a bit of a hike and I did notice the hike in the Leo bumps as well recently however they also put a discount on their feature adds which was nice. 2 months for $80 dollars which is a good deal. I'm guessing the featured adds are the same on backpage ? With the increase of single adds I'm guessing they will run random specials on their feature adds as well.
The increase to 10 dollars seems like a lot however a 10 dollar add if you are a reputable provider can potentially generate a huge profit.
Someone in another province told me once to put my name in bold right in the add title and at the very start of the add title on Bsckpage as it would be easier to pick me out of the crowd
Clients also get used to and remember your posting pattern and "bumping" patterns. So if it's possible to keep any kind of a structure in advertisements clients will remember and look for you during those times as well.
If everyone followed us or looked for us on our Twitter accounts then it would cut out a great deal of out advertisements costs.
As the summer season is coming I'll be putting my adds back on a few other sites again as I'm just on here and Leo list and I can only imagine what those costs will run me through summer now with all the increases, but I've learned to take it with a grain of salt.
However that's all part of the game. Between photoshoots, websites, advertisements, incall space, nails, hair , eyebrows, updated wardrobes, this, that & and everything in between. Yes it's a high cost to maintain and keep going, but just as in many other businesses you need to spend money to make money.
Many people spend 10 dollars a day on transit fair, and plenty more spend that or more on gas commuting daily to their jobs which don't pay out in a week as much as we can pull in in just a few hours.
This was by far the most sensible account of SP economics ever posted. Many simply bitch and complain about their expenses when all things compared, are tiny if not irrelevant; it makes them sound like a bunch of entitled lazy you-know-whats. Thanks for posting this, you deserve a lot of respect for it.
That's a good synopsis. Only thing I don't see happening is the price increase being temporary. When I was first pooning rates (say 2006 to 2009) for non Asian SP's were sub $200 and most of the time very good too. Then things started to jump to $250 hr (probably 2009 2010?) now many new SP's are jumping in at $300 hr.
I recall a series of PM's I received from one now retired SP and her rates were $280 hr at the time and my max was $250. We bantered back n forth over that $30 for a long time. Eventually being the weak man I am, I jumped in and saw her many times.
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LADY-VIA
The industry is like a lottery. Us ladies never know what we are going to get unless we pay/play and after we have been around for a while and establish ourselves we don't have to play so many rounds or play at all and we still get lucky and win.
I Can't say the same for the men though as I dont for see the "paying " part of the equation being taken out any time soon for you guys to get lucky around here
The gamble for you guys is after you pay as well though as you don't know what you will get all the time either. Your rewards are reliable good sps that you can repeat with. But it's all a gamble and all a game.
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I Can't say the same for the men though as I dont for see the "paying " part of the equation being taken out any time soon for you guys to get lucky around here
The gamble for you guys is after you pay as well though as you don't know what you will get all the time either. Your rewards are reliable good sps that you can repeat with. But it's all a gamble and all a game.
LV
honestly backpage should be a last resort site...if you're not getting enough off LL, then thats usually the secondary option, and if that doesn't help, then either give it some time as it may be a slow period, or you need to re-evaluate your business structure
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LADY-VIA
It's definitely not a last resort site as those who want to optimize all Avenues of advertisement will utalized back page as well including myself.
Advertisements are not always so much about the need for clients all the time as it is for the need to constantly keep your name out there and imprinted in people's minds.
I'm pretty sure coca cola could do without the commercials and adds now but they keep pumping them through to imprint us
Back page is just another resource for us to utalized to our own advantage so I would never place it as a last resort option.
Plus I have not found the quality of the clients off of there to be different than clients from other sites, in fact some of my best touring clients have come off there.
Advertisements are not always so much about the need for clients all the time as it is for the need to constantly keep your name out there and imprinted in people's minds.
I'm pretty sure coca cola could do without the commercials and adds now but they keep pumping them through to imprint us
Back page is just another resource for us to utalized to our own advantage so I would never place it as a last resort option.
Plus I have not found the quality of the clients off of there to be different than clients from other sites, in fact some of my best touring clients have come off there.
That's true. People used to ask me why I continued to place ads even when I wasn't accepting new clients anymore, and I'd explain that many guys can't risk getting caught with my contact info on their phone or omputer, so you need to keep your info out there so they can find you again. I'd also point out that other 'health professionals' advertise year round no matter how busy they already are.
I haven't used BP for years, but still throw ads on CL every once in a while, and find I get the same quality of clients from everywhere, because my screening process remains the same.
I'm not sure exactly how different her post was to anyone else's. She said she thought $7 was steep. She said she doesn't use bp in Vancouver. And she commented that $10 was quite a hike. Which is what everyone else has said.
Bp escort section wasn't really worth daily $7 bumps for me because there are so many ads that each ad gets very little visibility. From asking, most of the bookings I got tended to be the result of a search for a specific keyword, which means that frequent bumping wasn't really more effective.
It doesn't matter that $7 or $10 doesn't sound like much but if you add it up, based on a daily bump for example 5 x week, that's $140 and now $200. Why am I going to waste that amount on a service that's not doing much for me? That's just one advertising site and just one section. It's the most expensive but the least effective and the one that offers the least and shortest visibility.
It doesn't really matter what you or anyone thinks about the amount, that's just a crappy return and a bad deal if you compare to all the options. I'm not sure what exactly is lazy or self entitled about that, I happen to think it's just common sense..
I never made a huge fuss about it but since someone brought it up, I'm just giving my opinion. If it's such a problem for some of you, why don't you just skip the thread?
So you really think the majority do or are interested in the several appointments necessary to 'pull in over 1K a day' as a regular or daily thing? Maybe sp's who are in it for a short time to make as much as they can.. Otherwise -- get real. :doh:
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Yes, very discrete for you. I'm sure with the new law, clients used to email bookings and Internet ads would be thrilled about having to switch to driving around with all the new added risks of arrest.
Every business has overhead and operating expenses part time or full time. Well if you're a low volume escort shouldn't you have regulars coming back for your great service? If not spend that money on advertising as you need it. What's backpage conversion rate? I bet it's under 10% but 10% of 100K visits a week is decent.
Regulars are only regulars if you are ready when they have the time, if a part time sp has no time on that day, that regular will see another lady.
Not that many gent see only one lady, lol
Therefore we have to advertise on those days or timeframe when we are available.
haha yeah very true
well some regulars might adjust if its really worth it, I can think of plenty of times I would wait until the next day or two to see my favorite escort
I remember an escort I saw last year who hardly ever advertised and only did on leoslist not BP or even PERB but was almost always booked, she said advertising everyday was never needed
word of mouth and those who knew of her when she worked at the Fox Den was more than enough, but on her slow days she would just bump her ad
well some regulars might adjust if its really worth it, I can think of plenty of times I would wait until the next day or two to see my favorite escort
I remember an escort I saw last year who hardly ever advertised and only did on leoslist not BP or even PERB but was almost always booked, she said advertising everyday was never needed
word of mouth and those who knew of her when she worked at the Fox Den was more than enough, but on her slow days she would just bump her ad
The don't understand, Miss*Bijou. They won't understand. Just do your thing, girl.
They don't understand, Miss*Bijou. They won't understand. Just do your thing, girl.
You are already imbedded on most of our minds but I agree that seeing you on backpage often keeps you in my considerations
Well I took the time today to write to backpage admin. Relayed to them my displeasure with the advertising increases. Within 30 min I got a response from "Rusty".
Hello,
"There was a recent site wide price increase. If you would like we can apply 3 free auto-reposts to your ad. If you would like the reposts what time would you like the ad to repost?
Thanks,
-Rusty "
My reply was "Thanks for the offer but no thanks. I am done with backpage.
And for your information it's not just me that is upset about the "sitewide increases".
http://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?213779-Boycotting-Backpage&highlight=Backpage "
Hello,
"There was a recent site wide price increase. If you would like we can apply 3 free auto-reposts to your ad. If you would like the reposts what time would you like the ad to repost?
Thanks,
-Rusty "
My reply was "Thanks for the offer but no thanks. I am done with backpage.
And for your information it's not just me that is upset about the "sitewide increases".
http://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?213779-Boycotting-Backpage&highlight=Backpage "
Good for you ladies standing up for what you believe in :thumb:. Too bad a majority of society doesn't have the same ruthless aggression towards many other things on our lives such as fuel prices, hydro etc etc.
Personally, with the exception towards Perb ladies who ad on backpage, I always suspected that site was full of phoney ad photos ( too good to be true ), and sting set ups.
Now....other than Perb and L.L where else do you ladies advertise?
Personally, with the exception towards Perb ladies who ad on backpage, I always suspected that site was full of phoney ad photos ( too good to be true ), and sting set ups.
Now....other than Perb and L.L where else do you ladies advertise?
